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Dell Drops Linux on Desktops and Laptops

aclute sent in a bit saying that Dell is dropping Linux from desktops and laptops. They cite low demand, and they plan to continue shipping Linux on the server. I've sworn off Dell PCs since their finance dept. tried to screw me over on the laptop I leased for a few years in college (No, we never got that laptop back. Nor can we explain why you have signed confirmation that it was delivered. You owe us a year's worth of late fees). Frankly there are much less expensive places to get a Linux laptop, but those suckers with the 1600x1200 screens and the GeForce 2 video card are still super pimp.

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  1. Official Statement by PRickard · · Score: 5
    Dell announced today it will stop offering as an option on desktop and laptop computer systems an operating system it never advertised and buried deep within the bowels of its Web site where most customers could never find it. The reason cited for dropping the option was "low demand."

    This is really a non-issue. The only people who could get Linux on a Dell had to know from the beginning that Linux was an option and know where to find the page that allowed them to select it. Dell only offered Linux in the first place as a flimsy token to open source people. Now Microsoft probably used that as a reason to not let Dell stick AOL icons on the desktop or something, so the option is gone. Is anyone really surprised?

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  2. Signed Confirmation by mr100percent · · Score: 5

    If you have signed confirmation, then you could have a case in small claims court. Just threatening one could cause them to relent and just replace the darn thing.

    Or are we going to see Taco on Judge Judy?

  3. Gee... I wonder why the demand was low? by iceT · · Score: 5

    - Geeks buy LINUX. (Generalization, I know)
    - Geeks deal with computers better than people (more generalizations), so they would order over the Web.
    - Web ordering never allowed LINUX as an OS pick for desktops.
    - Geeks never ordered LINUX.

    Thank you. Please drive through.

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  4. Re:You have GOT to me kidding me! by jacobito · · Score: 5
    Yeah, it was always a pain in the ass trying to figure out how to get a Dell machine with Linux preinstalled. Sometimes you could go to www.dell.com/linux, read all about how Dell is thrilled to be supporting Linux, click on "configure a computer," and be taken to a page that let you choose between Win98 and Win2000. Ugh.

    However, it really does cost Dell a lot to support Linux. They have to test and validate the OS with every hardware configuration they sell and note those configurations that don't work, they have to make changes to the manufacturing process to support the new OS, and they have to train and staff support lines for Linux customers, and so on.

  5. Re:You have GOT to me kidding me! by istartedi · · Score: 5

    "high demand" does not mean a small number of people squaking loudly. It means either a large number of people willing to pay a little, or a small number of people willing to pay a lot.

    Actually, in economic terms, "demand" is a graph of what people are willing to pay for a unit vs. the number of units.

    So, all you have established is one datum on the demand curve, and you haven't provided us with any information about how many units you'd be willing to buy at a given price.

    Now, if Dell actually tracked requests like yours and added them up, they undoubtedly have some kind of report on some manager's desk that approximates the demand (in the economic sense) for laptops loaded with Linux.

    That same report also contains a "supply" which is the price at which companies are willing to sell units vs. number of units.

    The intersection of these two curves is the equilibrium price, and if Dell can't sell units at that price, and make a profit, they have no business selling these boxes.

    That's all there is to it. If you don't believe me, just ask the CEO of VA Linux. :)

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  6. Maybe if Dell's customizer had Linux on it.... by BigBlockMopar · · Score: 5

    Maybe there'd be more demands for Linux on Dell desktops and notebooks if I could actually select it on their website. If it was available as an option on that machine, I couldn't find it.

    As it was, I was hunting around for a Dell desktop for a friend of mine. Nothing spectacular, but he didn't want to pay the Microsoft tax, and liked the look of Linux on one of my machines.

    We chose the link to customize the machine, and Linux wasn't on the list. In the end, he went with a generic clone because he could get it without the liability of a copy of Windows Me. Oh, and we downloaded an RH 7.1 ISO from their website.

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  7. You have GOT to me kidding me! by Compulawyer · · Score: 5
    Low Demand??? I BEGGED them to send me either a Latitude with Linux pre-loaded or a blank box with no OS. They flat-out REFUSED. They would only ship with MS Win2000 or WinME preinstalled and REFUSED to provide me with information so I could obtain a refund for the unused Windows license.

    Maybe if they actually sold to people who asked for Linux they would find that demand isn't as low as they think.

    This is the height of hypocracy for Dell. They are known for custom building boxes to order and for having the lowest inventory levels in the industry (5 days). Tell me they can't slap a hard drive with Linux in as easily as they can load more RAM. Excuse me while I barf.

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  8. Re:Perhaps linux will return... by Captain+Bonzo · · Score: 5
    Linux is still far from being mainstream capable. Installing that, for the common folk, is NOT easy.

    To go at a slight tangent...

    To be honest, I don't think that the difficulty of installing Linux is actually a real issue. The recent Linux installations I have made (most recently SUSE and Mandrake) have been almost as easy as the last Windows install that I did (Win98). But that's not the point I wanted to make.

    My real point is that I believe that there are relatively few people out there who have actually installed any form of OS. The average desktop user will be either using the OS that was preloaded on their PC, or whatever their company's IT department gave them. Those of us willing to tinker are the minority.

    What people are more likely to be installing are applications -- or, more to the point, games. Once they are easy to install, people might start to convert, and PC manufacturers might see a bit more demand.