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The Assembly In Review

codetalker writes: "Assembly 2001 ended on August 6th and it seems that the demo scene hasn't died yet. Head on over to their ftp and download the latest marvels from Helsinki's massive annual programming and digital art/music competition. Wired also has a couple articles on the subject here(1), here(2) and here(3)."

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  1. Umm. Pity most of you missed the webcast... by Late · · Score: 3, Informative


    We did an almost 80 hour television broadcast from Assembly for the second year running. Somehow posting it to Slashdot slipped my mind this year. On the other hand Soneras servers would have been hopelessly Slashdotted :)


    Quite a few clips of our material are available for download at www.assemblytv.net and we'll try to get more posted in the next few weeks. Unfortunately there isn't as much material in English as one could hope for.



    I was made next years editor-in-chief for demoscene related programs yesterday, so I'll try to get all our scene material done in English for next year if we manage to gather equipment and funding for a third full scale production.



    If everything does go well, I'll really really try to post to Slashdot next time ;)

  2. Demo Maker PC Author Died by friday2k · · Score: 4, Informative

    Dear Demo Fellows!
    Some of you might remember the famous first Demo Maker by TRSI for the Amiga, enabling many people that did not have the skills and/or time to learn coding to make their own Demos on the Amiga. Some of you might also remember the PC Version of it. It was published by Data Becker in those famous 90s. The Author, Andreas Schwaab, died about 6 weeks ago after a long sickness. I hope that you have some good memories of him and his work. I will for sure miss a very good friend!

  3. better at openGL than html, eh? by hkon · · Score: 4, Funny

    Isn't it just a tad ironic that these people can do things with amigas and peecees that no sane person would ever require of them, but can't make a web page that validates

  4. Why aren't there more demos for Linux? by phutureboy · · Score: 3, Interesting

    It seems to me that demo crews would be more interested in writing for Linux than they are. It just seems like the two cultures would mesh well, but apparently they haven't very much.

    Why are most of the demos these days for Windows? Is it a cultural thing, or a technical thing? Are there multimedia limitations under Linux that are not addressed by SDL, etc?

    Sigh. I used to run a BBS dedicated to Amiga demos. The stuff back then was some amazing shit. I've still never seen anything on a PC that impressed me as much. It would be cool if a free OS someday became the demo platform of choice.

  5. Re:Different Cultures: Europe vs. the USA by Dutchie · · Score: 5, Insightful
    Hmm, an interesting opinion. Regarding the first paragraph:

    I'm glad to see the demo scene finally mentioned in an article on Slashdot. I was starting to think that Slashdot was only interested in covering topics of interest USian readers.

    If you read through the FAQ on slashdot you'll see that the FAQ clearly says that slashdot very much IS US centric. The staff is mostly American I believe, and US news is more interesting to Americans than the rest of the world.

    It is in the third paragraph however where you get just a little bit too generalizing:

    Coders in the US are too focused on monetary rewards or political posturing.

    And later:

    Europeans are driven by ideals, not greed.

    I am a european (Dutch) who lives in California. I have met a lot of highly skilled individuals out here, people that I like to hang out with not only for their technical skills, but because they're often rather pleasant people to hang out with. Before you start talking about 'greed', you must realize that life here is:

    • More expensive. California is one of those ridiculously expensive places to live.
    • More competitive.
    It's not so much 'greed' that prevails as it is 'survival'. Maybe a wolf is a greedy animal... I don't know. It survives though. When companies are given the power to work their employees over 10 hours a day and not pay them extra because they are exempt from Labor Law (sometimes I believe all of California is exempt) that does tend to shape the attitude. When everybody does it, you'd be strange and unwanted when you don't do it.

    Mind you, I have worked on both sides of the fence, so I know what I'm talking about. In Europe it's not unusual that people spend lots of time on hobbies. They have more free time. Their hobbies CAN and often DO trickle through in their work. To employees this is a good thing. To employers not always. Here in the US when you spend a bit too much time slacking, it can cost you your job IMMEDIATELY since everybody here in the high tech business gets hired 'at will'. This makes people more carefull, sometimes appearing more obsessed, or, as you wish, more 'greedy'.

    So as you see, there are some good reasons why things are the way you perceive them to be. Your labelling is somewhat inaccurate though in my opinion.

    Now, I do think that the USA has a lot to learn from some European countries. Wellbeing will beat Wellfare down the line. Really, feeling 'happy' with the little things you have counts much more than not feeling so 'happy' with your yuppy SUV because your supervisor has a bigger one. And happy people work better. And if you have a lot of unhappy people, they produce crap like Microsoft Windows.

    What you fail to mention is that Europe can also learn a LOT from the USA. And then I'm not talking about DMCA crap or corrupted buyable governments; Those exist everywhere, also in Europe, whether they get bought by the maffia in Italy or by corporations in the USA (or by tulip growers in the Netherlands). Don't forget there is a reason many things fly over from the USA and set foot in Europe. This is because some of the things as they are done here plain simple WORK better. A survival of the fittest attitude tends to make companies lean and mean and competitive with others. And no matter what fancy-smancy-socialist-touchy-feely exposure some companies in Europe may have, their bottom line is to make money, and do it better than anybody else in your business. American companies are more agressive, so they beat European companies often. However, IMHO not often on quality. This, to them, does not matter. Think about the bottom line.

    Sorry for my little rant :)

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  6. Lapsuus runs on WinUAE btw by Otis_INF · · Score: 4, Informative
    If you wonder how the winning demo will look like and you only have an old fart amiga500, dual boot in your dusty windows (you know, that OS you use to play that one game) and download WinUAE (a href="http://www.codepoet.com/UAE/">http://www.cod e poet.com/UAE/), get 'Amiga In A Box' (http://www.codepoet.com/UAE/), then grab some kickstart rom from a friendly source (search for 'kick31.rom' on google) and you're ready to go! unpack the .lha archive in a directory and add it as a harddrive to WinUAE, and start it. A friendly amigaOS shell will welcome you.

    After the rush and warm feelings you got inside by re-facing this screen of joy from the old days, go to the harddrive you assigned the lapsuus dir to (f.e. dh3:) and run the demo. Enjoy :)

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  7. Straight from the article: by Dancin_Santa · · Score: 3, Funny

    As 5,000 kids gathering in Finland on Thursday will attest, the European demo scene is alive and kicking.

    Only 5,000? That's a little small for a convention...

    There's no alcohol and few girls.

    Oh, I see why...

    Dancin Santa

  8. Scene.org by robbyjo · · Score: 3, Interesting

    If you like those eye-candy demos, you can download from this repository at: www.scene.org Browse their archive!

    They have all sort of demo collections from various groups and various fests. Cool! Gigs of download. Don't forget to check out the Java demos too. It will make you wonder how can they make such a cool (and very fast) demo like that in Java.

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  9. Some good demo links... by antdude · · Score: 4, Informative

    Lnxscene for Linux demos. I am not sure if any of these demos are from Assembly.

    Calodox Demology Exchange for user reviews. You can submit your own reviews. This is for PC demos (Windows and DOS).

    Amidemos for Amiga Demos in AVI video format since most of don't have the classic Amiga computers and emulators don'twork well. Check out 05.08.2001: Assembly 2001 winner demo Lapsuus now online ...

    scene.org -- I believe these are for all systems beside PC and Amiga.

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  10. Different Cultures: Europe vs. the USA by Kiss+The+Sp0rk · · Score: 5, Insightful
    I'm glad to see the demo scene finally mentioned in an article on Slashdot. I was starting to think that Slashdot was only interested in covering topics of interest USian readers.

    The demo scene is much more important than people and Americans generally acknowledge. It is, truly, the last subculture where people code for the love of it. This explains the strength of the scene in Europe, and its nonexistence in America.

    The culture in the US leaves no room for movements like the demo scene to evolve and thrive. Coders in the US are too focused on monetary rewards or political posturing. This is unfortunate. America really needs to pay attention to the Europeans here, and learn from them.

    Europeans are driven by ideals, not greed. At the same time, they are sophisticated enought not to allow their valuable coding skills to be coopted by strident political organizations like the FSF.

    Unfortunately, America is exporting it's culture to Europe at an alarming rate. Soon, Europe may even beging to enforce American software patents. Under these circumstances, the demo scene is in a precarious postition. For example, I can forsee a day when all the skilled European coders will have been bought up by American corporations. Even worse, once software patents go into effect in the EU, it's only a matter of time before the scene is forced underground by lawsuits from American game companies. I really hope the EU doesn't let this happen, but it may be too late.

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  11. 4k intros by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    You know, squeezing code down to fit a 4k intro requirement sort of loses its point when the only way to see it is by downloading an 11MB DiVX..

    Sigh..it makes you miss the old days, doesn't it?

  12. Future Crew by jfunk · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I got into the demo scene, like many others, after seeing Second Reality from Future Crew. I immediately went out and bought a GUS. I still have it, I recently plugged it into an Alpha but it doesn't seem to work...

    Imagine my delight when I look under MP3-musiikki and find this. I downloaded it and I'm really impressed. They haven't done a big demo since Second Reality (a couple of mini-demos only) but I am totally happy that Purple Motion is still at it.

    I'm going to have to try some of those demos at work tomorrow where I have access to a Windows box. If only they were all SDL like iXalance, which I found about a month ago...

    1. Re:Future Crew by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

      nothing big?

      how about, oh, say, forming Remedy Entertainment, releasing Final Reality, and writing Max Payne? Surely that's something.

  13. And people think this is new by Cerlyn · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Module music in the "scene" carries samples of the instruments along with the file. Yet Discover magazine thought an MIT researcher's work in the field was so novel that he was a finalist in their 1997 Discover Awards (see "Bringing Music to the Web"). A project (whos name escapes me) combines audio data with the music to play it, and calls it a new format.

    Anyway, there are plenty of players out there if you want to listen in. For MS Windows users, there's Winamp, although I personally prefer Modplug over Winamp, hoping that my favorite player of all time, Cubic, will be worked on again and make a comeback.

    Linux users have their choice of a variety of players. XMMS has a plugin available with the engine from modplug. Several others also exist as well.