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Patenting In The Burst Test
gerddie writes "Heise has an interview with S. Kiesewetter-Köbinger, a patent examiner of the German PA, about the cultural break, software patents will impose to Europe if they become valid. He points out the danger to open source and science, and that with patents on software even mathematical methods would become patentable because there is no longer any difference. There is also a companion article competition in the court room, that gives some more insight in the history and current state of the patent system. All is in german, but as always the fish is your friend."
http://www.theonion.com/onion3311/microsoftpatents .html
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As, if Hemos had even bothered to read the translated article, he would have realized that it is long, and that babelfish STOPS TRANSLATING it less than a third of a way through the article.
use freetranslation.com or one of the many other available translators instead.
yeesh.
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the pen is mightier than the sword, the sword is mightier than the court, the court is mightier than the pen.
"Software patents, they suck real bad, da da de dum"... in all seriousness, (and I don't have to say this part around here), this is a BAD THING COMING.
Here's my question: In light of the somewhat unfortunate fact that world economies are growing increasingly intertwined, especially given the rate of advances in digital communications, how great is the chance of my wonderful country (U.S.) eventually just deciding to "take the ball and go home" when it comes to countries that don't play by our current rules regarding software patents?
This strikes to the core of a problem America has always suffered from, namely a nasty elitist attitude regarding all things involving tech and government. While it's true that the U.S. has enjoyed relatively little fallout for this attitude problem historically speaking, how long can that last?
As an American, I suppose what I'm suggesting here is simply that U.S. citizens should probably start taking a closer look at how our internal government policy decisions (especially regarding technology issues) may eventually leave us out in the cold on the world economic scene. It only makes sense when you think about it; we've got the edge in a few areas for the moment, but tables have a way of turning whenever our good friend Murphy steps into the room...
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ah don't be a dense dogmatic fuckwad. go read something about communism's origins and history. paris commune? the radical early tendencies of the labour movement, prior to becoming the nice apolitical business unionism it is today? i realize this is a troll and all but the sort of unthinking mindset it parodies is all too common. half the webworking monkeys of the world are proto-fascist reactionaries politically (because in politics as in life, they haven't gotten out much from within the safe comfy box). They call themselves "libertarians" and wax enlightened, but when the shit hits the fan they will pull ranks with their class, whatever hardline neo-fascist form it takes. In a sense they already do, look at the cheery above-it-all dismissals of growing first-world state repression, police militarization etc.
The rest of the world is NOT run by the US. We have not had software patents, and we like it that way. Why can the US not play ball with us, and drop its silly stance about the patenting of mathematical algorithms, methods, discoveries, and just about everything else that was excluded from patentability in the early days.
Besides, in contries that don't have software patents, software `inventors' haven't bothered to patent software (for obvious reasons). If a US style system was introduced into their country, surely---to be fair---they should be allowed to back-date patent registrations, etc. invalidating any later US patents currently passed.
To go back to the reality of patents---they are TERRITORIAL rights in two cases. They apply in the place where the patent was registered, and they grant `intellectual territory' in that place. Everything more should be viewed by people taking advantage of international treaties as good fortune.
I disagree. He's only unintentionally funny, and if he were smart or insightful he wouldn't have posted in this thread in the first place.
You could type in the URL to the article you wants to translate.
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*sigh* someone should patent First Post
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Even mathematical methods would become patentable
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Since software moves so rapidly, if they have patents, I think maybe 5 years would be good rather than 23 years or whatever it is.
Given the typical software patents, it's obvious that there is not a whole lot of money poured into developing the patent. Things like "1-click buying" or "limiting # of 3D avatars viewable in the client based on distance to client's perspective" may be innovative, but once spelled out in a few words, any number of methods to implement them immediately and easily pop into the mind of a programmer.
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If read the babelfish translation you will, backwards how it is written you will see. Yoda, almost as if it were written by. Normal however I have found, word order for most other indo-european languages that is.
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That is the most gramatically awkward submission I've read recently. It's almost as if Taco wrote it himself! ;)
Unresolvable debts to long lists of patent and IP holders. Yay. Are there still any drawing boards in the bribery chambers of the government? Certainly a relic from the past but may prove valuable to this long abused and dangerous system of handling invention.
What I found really funny about this article is that the person quoted an American Axiom. "never touch a running system" He basically said, with a software economy so dynamic and vibrant and working without software patents, why ruin it with patents. In other words IF IT AIN'T BROKEN DON'T FIX IT!!!! Ironic that a German quotes an American AXIOM. My how the tide does turn.... Christian Gross
There, I've demonstrated my full knowledge of both Spanish and German, and probably my lack of spelling skills in both.
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Karma be damned... thank you, whoever you are for saying what I didn't!!! There's no room for that kind of crap here, although it's also been stated that if we "don't feed the trolls, they may go away."
Like I said, Karma be damned, I'll continue to rebuff that kind of crap.
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i just hope no one gets the patent to breathing!
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Check EPC article 52(1)c that says computer software is not patentable, and article 52(3) that has the infamous "as such" clause that EPO uses as a loop hole to grant software patents.
Unfortunately it seems europe has lost this race even before anyone knew it was an issue.
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When I was a kid I remember reading that non-communist Russia was a huge threat to the west because they did not recognize western patents. Of course, I like most people agreed that this was a serious problem.
Now I am an adult and I understand that earlier opinion was guided and shaped by the corporate marketing machine which has a vested interest in keeping ideas tied to their existing bank accounts.
Europeans should fight Software Patents and not be shy about it.
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I read "Burst-Test" and thought the headline was about condom QA/QC. Geeks have other hobbies, too!
If you don't believe me, ask that guy over there.
After giving the headline a cursory glance, I thought it said, "Patenting The Burn-In Test"....although somebody's probably already working on that one.
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Every single software patent I've seen begins with explaining what the patent covers, by describing an apparatus that implements the patent. Most of the time this means a PC running a piece of software.
Since IANAL, I'm interpreting this so that providing only part of the solution (ie, the software component) isn't covered by the patent since no hardware is provided. If providing part of the solution is a breach, wouldn't it imply that providing the hardware part only (a pc) is infringing? If providing some part of the solution is infringing the patent and some other part is not, where does the line go?
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Check out Bounty Quest, they reward people for finding documents that mention the idea before it was registered as a patent. That way the patent does not fulfil the new criteria and becomes invalid.
You get paid too...
Idempotent operation: Like MS software, wether you run it once or often, that doesn't make it any better.
heh.
Of course, as most of us know, he speaks fluent german and surely must have read the article in it's entirety in the original form. He only pointed out babelfish for us stupid non-polylingual types, and overlooking it's translation limitation is understandable. An easy mistake, after all.
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the pen is mightier than the sword, the sword is mightier than the court, the court is mightier than the pen.
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