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Workingmac.com Interview With Jordan Hubbard

LiquidPC writes: "workingmac.com has an interview with Jordan Hubbard (one of the founders of the FreeBSD project, and currently works for Apple on development of OS X). Questions range from 'How do open-source operating systems compare to closed-source operating systems?' to 'What does the future hold for FreeBSD?'" It's a quick interview, but a good read. Interesting that to talk about the Mac OS now is to talk about UNIX.

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  1. MacOS X #1 in sales by maggard · · Score: 5, Interesting
    What makes all this really interesting is that MacOS X is now the best-selling* unix distribution.


    * Most units sold

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  2. Why based on by XBL · · Score: 4, Interesting

    FreeBSD 3.2? Why not the 4.x series?

  3. Hubbard crippling himself by working for Steve? by Bonker · · Score: 5, Interesting

    A little while back when rumours that the complete source of Windows 2k had made it 'into the wild', many open source developers were faced with the daunting proposition of keeping an eye out to avoid any Microsoft-originated source code.

    Since he works for Apple, I have to wonder if Hubbard is not 'contaminating' any Open Source code he puts his fingers on.

    The arguement goes as so... The way I understand it, Hubbard is working on Darwin, Apple's 'open source' OS. Darwin is equivalent to FreeBSD with a command shell. X and your choice of window managers can be installed on top of it, but it won't be OSX. Now, presumably, Hubbard must be exposed to a *lot* of proprietary code in order to best optimize Darwin to run the OSX user interface. Does this invalidate his open source efforts? Does he have a special contract with Apple so that any OSS can be released under (I'm assuming) the BSD license? Does Hubbard safeguard himelf from seeing any non-OSS code while at work?

    It's possible, but somehow I doubt it. Anyone else know?

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  4. Way too short by Canyon+Rat · · Score: 5, Interesting

    This interview just scratches the surface. Let's see if we can get Jordan to answer questions on /. I'm sure that would be much more interesting.

  5. PairNetworks by tstock · · Score: 3, Interesting

    It's interesting that Pair Networks is asking the questions... they have about 300 FreeBSD servers, and have been hosting web sites since January 1996.

    Didn't expect many OS X questions :-)

  6. OS Ramblings (OK, it's OT, so shoot me) by IronChef · · Score: 4, Interesting


    OK, here's a weird, wacky idea.

    I think the Feds should fund the development of an operating system and office suite. The software would be released to the public, including source code.

    Sounds crazy at first, yes. But bear with me.

    My reasoning is this: simply put, an OS and office suite is IMPORTANT. Damn important, like roads, and telephone service. Like those other infrastructure elements, it makes sense to have some kind of government supported offering. We already rely on Federally-funded roads... the Post Office gets Fed subsidies and tax breaks... Why not get some support for them from the gov't for the computers on our desks?

    The idea is not to give the government control of OS technology though... the goal is to give US something WE can use, for nothing more than a couple bucks each in taxes. GovOS would give people a way to write a paper for school, or look at the web without being FORCED into buying an OS from some other big company. It would be an ideal solution for basic gov't employees -- those people who do nothing but prepare documents and send email all day.

    Of course, we would ALWAYS have the choice to go with MS or Apple or whoever, but GovOS would be ideal for poor people, or for schools that otherwise would have to lay out a fortune in OS licenses.

    The GovOS should be made compatible with as much hardware as possible. Its office suite should be made as inter-operable as possible with all the current document standards. Businesses that want to do work with the government would be required to submit files in GovOS-compatible format.

    Before y'all flip out, this really isn't any different that the current Free Software philosophy that permeates this site. I'm just saying, let's go a step further and throw some tax money at the problem. How much could it *possibly* cost to start with Linux or FreeBSD, and create a dirt-easy-to-install OS and office suite? A few hundred million? Like, the price of a few warplanes? It's nothin'. We're paying for far less useful things already. And the gov't pays Microsoft alone a hell of a lot in license fees. Imagine what could be developed if a small fraction of that money was used to hire decent programmers?

    GovOS isn't about restricting freedom. It's about increasing it, by providing a tax-funded public domain desktop computing infrastructure. OS plus office suite, with some well-paid professional developers behind it, in the public domain... It sounds good to me.

    I know a lot of you are going to say, "we don't need GovOS. We have Mandrake and Debian." To that I say those are fine products, but they *clearly* have not passed the ease-of-use test the mainstream demands. So let's throw a bomber's worth of money at one of them and produce something that anyone can install and use -- and rob Microsoft of a ton of money in the process.

    1. Re:OS Ramblings (OK, it's OT, so shoot me) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

      You're a Libertarian's nightmare. Congratulations.

      But seriously, I don't want the government to use
      my money on on OS. I don't want the government
      to use my money at all. I want to keep it.

      The government is useful for spending money on things
      no private sector company in their right mind would
      spend money on. Like environmental monitoring.

      An OS is something the private sector can handle.

  7. still wrong by mj6798 · · Score: 2, Interesting
    By your definition, Windows is UNIX, too, since it runs almost all those applications and tools as well. The simple fact is that MacOS X shares little with either the traditional codebase or the traditional philosophy of UNIX.

    You might, however, call MacOS X "UNIX compatible", "mostly POSIX compliant", or "an operating system with a UNIX personality".

  8. Re:BZZZT! Nope by nam37 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    "If it runs Apache, it is a duck."

    umm... MS Windows can run Apache....

    nam

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