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Microsoft Fakes Citizen Letters of Support

An Anonymous Coward writes: "According to this Seattle Times article, Microsoft is sending letters to Utah's Attorney General in support of the company, but with fake signatures of citizens (some of whom are dead!). The article says: "Letters sent in the last month are on personalized stationery using different wording, color and typefaces, details that distinguish Microsoft's efforts from lobbying tactics that go on in politics every day. State law-enforcement officials became suspicious after noticing that the same sentences appear in the letters and that some return addresses appeared invalid."" The original source appears to be this story in the LA Times today. We here at Slashdot would like to take the time to say that strong competition and innovation have been the twin hallmarks of the technology industry, and if the future is going to be as successful as the recent past, the technology sector must remain free from excess regulation.

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  1. This isn't facts. by codeforprofit2 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Lets wait until the investigation is finished and then, if it's Microsoft, bash them really good.

  2. Astro Turf by HerrGlock · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Didn't MS get a black eye over this before? What has changed to make them think they can get away with it this time?

    People write for and against organizations and corporations all the time, let 'the people' speak, MS. Believe it or not, quite a few will speak in your favor.

    If you are not getting good press and 'the people' are not happy with your product, that means the marketplace is actually working as it should and people will find someone else with whom to do buisness. Free enterprise means that 'the people' decide whether or not your company survives.

    This is not the 'big business' that some folks are talking about when they are looking towards freedom of speech, this is hogwash made by a monopoly looking to embed itself so far up everyone's butt that they can put out the trash they have been putting out and make people pay for the priviledge of owning a piece of the trash.

    What's even more pathetic is that a lot of people will still claim that there are not illegal/immoral/fattning business practices going on here.

    DanH

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  3. Not surprising by sg3000 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The Los Angeles Times reported 3 years ago a similar scheme, where Microsoft was planning "a massive media campaign designed to influence state investigators by creating the appearance of a groundswell of public support for the company." [LA Times, "Microsoft Plans Stealth Blitz to Mend Its Image Public relations", Apr 10, 1998]. At the time that target was for free-lance writers to write opinion pieces, which would then be billed to Microsoft as an out of pocket expense.

    The only difference is, at the time Microsoft claimed that the idea it "was merely a proposal and 'not something we are moving on'" while this time they seem to be executing this plan.

    Faked video tapes, lying executives, and now this. Perhaps I'm overreacting (and it's 7 a.m. for me, so maybe I am), but can this company's actions get any worse? If the government itself were caught doing something like this, people would be in an uproar. But when it's Microsoft, most people respond with, "well, what can you do?"

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    Insert simplistic political, ideological, or personal proselytization here.
  4. Excess Regulation by Wyatt+Earp · · Score: 4, Insightful

    "We here at Slashdot would like to take the time to say that strong competition and innovation have been the twin hallmarks of the technology industry, and if the future is going to be as successful as the recent past, the technology sector must remain free from excess regulation."

    I think that one of the things that have gotten us to the point of bloated, unstable software is a LACK of regulation and recourse against some of the larger Software companies.

    Companies like General Motors or Boeing must abide by safety and quality standards, while a Microsoft doesn't, even though it's products may or may not have more of an impact on daily lives and safety than cars by GM or planes from Boeing.

    The point-click-lock-you-in EULA has done away with the ability to have stable software on a computer for the vast majority of users in the United States and the rest of the world.

    Hoping for a hands off approach will not make it better, it will make it worse. I think that if you make a product, physical or virtual (software) you should be held responsable for the quality if you are charging money for it. Getting the software industry to the same level that the automotive, aerospace or appliance industry is, isn't excess...it's minimum regulation.

  5. Tell me this... by Wind_Walker · · Score: 3, Insightful
    I'm gonna get bitchslapped for this, but I wonder...

    With all the recent articles about "astroturfing" (I'd link to them, but search is down right now) here on Slashdot, why is it that when a Linux group does it, it's the responsiblity of a single person who is quickly singled out, but when the group from Redmond does it, suddenly it's the entire corporation that is to blame?

    All we know is that we have a single person, perhaps more, sending invalid letters to the Utah Attorney General. For all we know, it could be just one person within Microsoft sending them because of a mis-interpreted order.

    Actually, the more I think about it, for all we know, it is actually a Linux supporter who is trying to discredit any valid grass-roots campaign that has sprung up for Microsoft.

    Let's not jump to conclusions here, folks; Let's wait for the facts before we start grandstanding about how terrible the Big Bad Corporation Microsoft is, mmmkay?

    1. Re:Tell me this... by Mister+Attack · · Score: 4, Insightful
      If you would read the article, you might see that, first off, there are way too many letters being sent for it to be one person; second, the organizations responsible for sending the letters have been identified, and are Microsoft-backed groups; and third, they attempted to lie about the extent of their involvement in writing the letters before forced to admit that they had actually written every word.

      The facts are there for you to read; I suggest you do so.

  6. Devil's advocate position... by weave · · Score: 3, Insightful
    The presence of identical phrases doesn't necessarily indicate fraud. Even on slashdot, we often get people writing suggestions on letters to write to congress about DCMA, DeCSS, etc...

    Face it, most people can't articulate themselves very well and prefer to use boilerplate letters. It doesn't make their opinions any less valid.

    1. Re:Devil's advocate position... by Patoski · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Face it, most people can't articulate themselves very well and prefer to use boilerplate letters. It doesn't make their opinions any less valid.

      I tend to disagree. When you are unable to express yourself adequately it generally means one of two things:

      A) You haven't thought about the issue enough to truly grok it and are therefore unable to express yourself effectively.
      B) You haven't spent enough time editing your letter and your thoughts appear disorganized (because they are). Through the process of writing you tend to understand the issue better because you're forced to critically examine your thoughts.

      Either way you have no business babbling on to whomever about your poorly conceived opinions. Granted, everyone (esp myself =P) is guilty of not thinking things through before firing off a misguided rant but that's not what we should aspire to. Lord knows I'm not the best writter in the world but anyone can get their point across with a little effort. Besides, people of importance (like govt officials) get these form letters all the time and they don't make near the impression as someone who took the time to pen something in their own words.

      I also take exception to your notion that people are unable to express themselves. Most people are perfectly capable of expressing themselves _if they take the time_. (which brings me to my sub rant)

      This elitist attitude of "I am made from a different (better) cloth than everyone else. I'm therefore smarter than 90% of the common herd and pity their ignorance." which pervades geek society leaves a bad taste in my mouth. Everyone is knowledgeable in a particular area and just because your area of expertise is a black box to others doesn't make you any more intelligent than the next person.

      Yes, I am a geek.. and yes that makes me part of the problem.

      Please try to think about that next time before you go off on a tirade about one of your "clueless lusers." I know I will...

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      G. Washington on Government "it is force. Like fire, it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master."
  7. Which past is that? by BeBoxer · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Three others use exactly these words: "If the future is going to be as successful as the recent past, the technology sector must remain free from excess regulation."

    Would that be the recent past, or the not-so-recent past? Because I think I speak for a lot of people when I say that the technology sector should not repeat its "success" of the last six months.

  8. It's probably legit by Sayjack · · Score: 2, Insightful

    They probably retained John Edwards to speak with the deceased. I imagine that it went something like this.

    John addressing a man in the crowd: Do you know a Mike...Michael?

    Man in crowd nods emphatically: Michael was my father's name.

    John: Michael's holding up a piece of corn, did he like corn, did he work in a corn related field?

    Man: My father was born in Iowa!!

    John: I'm sensing a crash, did Michael die in a car crash?

    Man: No...but he did use Windows and his computer crashed alot!!

    John: Michael has a message for you sir, "Strong competition and innovation
    have been the twin hallmarks of the technology industry."


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  9. Slashdot Fakes News Reporting! by NetJunkie · · Score: 2, Insightful

    They had people sign pre-done form letters and send them in. Big deal. EVERYONE does this, ALL lobby groups do this.

    How hypocritical is /.? Well, let's see. Everytime we need to write a congressman someone comes up with an automailer or sends out a form email. What's the difference? Oh yeah, this is Microsoft and I'm on Slashdot.