how long before we see Ascii art trolls of the "Golden Rain" rxn?
insert your own lewd reference here.
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Out of curiosity...
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Dutchmaan
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Just how many of these experiments are copyrighted? i don't wanna pay the powers that be for the privilege of a cheap and easy chemical burn.
Great ways to get kids into science
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RollingThunder
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I remember finding a book of chemistry experiments, and being fascinated with what I could do with just mixing a couple things.
Not simple stuff like "wow, vinegar and baking soda" (although kitchen chemistry is very cool), but "wow, battery acid, zinc and limestone will make lethal chlorine gas! cool!". (iirc)
While I don't want MOST kids getting that spin on it (:D), some golly-gee-whiz experiments at a YOUNG age, with some more every year, will help keep them interested in learning. And up here in Canada, at least, we've got a big problem with keeping boys interested in learning. But boys like things that go bang. Simple solution.:)
Re:Great ways to get kids into science
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RollingThunder
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True, but you get other gasses being released as well at the same time. I recall this experiment was to get (basically) pure chlorine gas, in a controlled manner.
Re:Great ways to get kids into science
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dillon_rinker
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DUH, you moron! You obviously haven't kept up with the latest advances on the cold fusion front! The zinc is a chemical catalyst, while the limestone's porous physical structure provides a reaction surface and neutron shield that permits the S to fuse with H. Thus:
4H2SO4 => 4Cl (4S+4H) + 2H2O + 7O2
Re:Great ways to get kids into science
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RevRigel
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That's a commonly held misconception that's almost an outright urban (chemical) myth. I don't know about how many people die because of it, but it doesn't produce Cl2 gas. It produces Hydrazine (N2H2, or H-N=N-H), which mainly used in the space program for short burst maneuvering thrusters on spacecraft, and has been used since the very first US launches at Vandenburg.
It's bad enough stuff that if you're able to smell it, you've already got brain damage, so there aren't too many people who know what it smells like. If I recall, there was a guy at Vandenburg whose job was to sniff for Hydrazine, but that was a classified project and they could get away with that kind of crap.
Re:Great ways to get kids into science
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Paul+the+Bold
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Hey, don't knock kitchen science. Burn Teflon®. One of the reaction products is HF, which is deadly in only parts per million. Woo hoo!
(This is why you shouldn't run coaxial cable through heating ducts. It contains Teflon®. A fire will cause poison gas to be piped throughout the ventilation system. Again, I say, "Woo hoo!")
Time to get another canary...
Re:Great ways to get kids into science
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DavidBrown
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Ah! The joys of hydrazine. Once, in a college chem lab, I made the mistake of sniffing 2,2-dichlorolphenylnitrohydrazine. It's commonly used to help identify unknown organic chemicals. You combine it with the unknown, and run a whole lot of tests on the resulting compound, and then you run the results though the big CRC book (Chemical Research Corporation) and maybe you'll find out what it is.
Anyway, I got a whiff of this stuff, and my eyes watered for about ten minutes. It was VERY painful.
As for memory loss? Well, I have a degree in chemistry, but I can't remember a damn thing about it...
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Re:Great ways to get kids into science
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deglr6328
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bleach + ammonia rxn as an above poster points out does not form Cl2 gas but N2H2.
I think the problem is that many housewives just don't know their chemistry very well (for shame!). The reaction that produces Cl2 gas and sometimes kills when produced in great enough portion is Bleach + Toilet Bowl Cleanser (like TidyBowl) which often contains hydrochloric acid. It is: NaClO + HCl --> Cl2(gas) + NaOH (aq.).
This reaction afforded me with endless hours of fun experementation when I found out how to do it as a kid(Cl2 gas has lots of spontaneous cool reactions with common household items).
-- - "Hear that?! The percolations are imminent! Cease your ingress!"
Re:Great ways to get kids into science
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edremy
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where do hydrocarbons, sulfates, and nitrates come from when running my car?"
Hydrocarbons are from the fuel: gasoline is a hydrocarbon
The nitrogen in the NOx comes from the air. Gasoline burning produces very little nitrate if any (nitrate = NO3-
The only real contaminant is the sulfur. Car exhaust contains very little sulfur since the oil it was made from doesn't have much. Coal burning is another story.
Eric
P.S. Hey Rob: why not allow < sup > and < sub > in posts?
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Re:Google's cached site
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smunt
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I think slashdot should have such a caching service too.
*NEWS* is almost never in google's cache.
The simple ones..
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GoNINzo
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Most of these are somewhat complex and some require like +3% solutions of acids/bases, which are difficult to get at best. In fact, some of these chemicals are 'call in the EPA if there is a spill'. But there are a lot of easy ones with materials that easy to get. Maybe they'll tune it a bit so they can list the ones you can do at home. I don't think I'm allowed to own 100% Hydrogen perxoide. `8r)
As far as explosives go, lots of cool things to do with chemicals like magnesium and nitrates. Just might have to search a bit harder. `8r) But hell, just making hydrogen is fun, from electricity and water.
-- Gonzo Granzeau
"Nothing the god of biomechanics wouldn't let you into heaven for.." -Roy Batty
Actually, I think I remember seeing 99% hydrogen peroxide available at a drugstore.
I really doubt it. 99% hydrogen peroxide (H2O2) is extremely reactive. It can be used as rocket fuel and will ignite on contact with anything organic. I believe it may even explode given a vigourous shake.
-- "When you sit with a nice girl for two hours, it seems like two minutes. When you sit on a hot stove for two minutes, it
Has anybody tried the one where you explode common flour? You need a long tube and a candle. Suspend the tube over the candle, then gently sift the flour into the tube -- bang.
Explosions are just supersonic burning. Many things will explode if divided finely enough and contained. I've heard that prisoners sometimes made pipe bombs out of playing cards by chewing and finely shredding them, stuffing them into a pipe. Obviously this takes time and motivation
Uh -- does this mean slahsdot is going to be blocked by cyberpatrol?
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Best chemistry demonstation I've seen
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NonSequor
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The best chemistry demonstration I've seen was at the end of the year in AP chemistry. My teacher put magnesium filings in between two slabs of dry ice and lit them. So the magnesium was burning in carbon dioxide rather than oxygen. This produced an *extremely* bright light that lasted quite a while (much longer than magnesium in oxygen any way). After it was done we played with the dry ice (not many people were there since most of the people in the class were seniors and had graduation rehearsal that day).
I also remember another demonstration in which he blew the lid of a can. I can't remember what he did then though.
Great teacher, if it weren't for his preparation I wouldn't have been able to get a 5 on the AP Chemistry test.
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Re:Best chemistry demonstation I've seen
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Quikah
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I also remember another demonstration in which he blew the lid of a can. I can't remember what he did then though.
Probably blew lycopodium into a can that had a lit candle in it. Classic experiment. Mr Wizard did this one on his show (he did a lot of stuff with lycopodium). You can get details from the site here.
-- Q.
Re:Best chemistry demonstation I've seen
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GreyDuck
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The "silly chemistry trick" I remember best is an example of blowing the lid off of a paint can:
Take standard paint can. Make small hole in center of lid, make another small hole in the side at the very bottom of the can. Use hose to pump the can full of that wonderful gas that all high-school chem labs are equipped with.
Tell students that this is a nifty kind of implement by which one can read at night, and demonstrate by lighting the gas escaping via the uppermost hole.
Set "camp night-light" aside, begin regularly scheduled lecture. Chuckle when the lid flies off of the paint can with a loud BANG and by some miracle lands in the trash receptacle by the classroom door.
I don't remember a whole lot else from my high school chemistry classes (well, lots of discussions about moles... go figure) but that incident will remain vivid in my memory for many years to come.
(Oh, and I'm assuming that I don't have to explain to you bright folks what made the BANG. Nope, didn't think so. Good.)
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The Giant Artificial Poo! Although if you have sulfuric acid in your digestive tract, you're more of a man then I am.
-- And the brethren went away edified.
Re:If we aren't supposed to try this at home
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Bob+McCown
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Obviously you arent supposed to try this at *YOUR* home. Try your friends home, instead!
Hey Tom, watch this!*
*Also spoken before many Darwin Award candidates last moves.
the best part f the site.
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Roanna
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OK, I skipped all the demos. I enjoyed chemistry but hated the labs. On the bottom of the page is a link to one of the web's most gorgeous periodic tables. Each group of elements is a different rainbow color.
If you click on each element you see an image of it in nature and get its history. If you click on the chemical information you see its image in pure form.
There are quicktime movies and Shockwave demos too. This is not the visual periodic table for nthing.
Roanna
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And, one experiment NOT on the site.
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jinx90277
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Reading over the experiments listed on the site reminded me of one experiment we did in honors high school chemistry which was NOT included. Our "teacher" was actually someone from the art department who was pressed into service as a chemistry instructor because he had a few chemistry classes in college. He walked in one day with a freaky, glazed look in his eye and announced to the class that we were going to be doing an experiment to start the day.
He went into the back room, came back with a pair of tongs and bottle of kerosene containing a chunk of potassium metal, and gestured for us to join him outside. We gathered around a large rain puddle from the previous day's storm, and he asked what class was in the room next door -- English, as it turned out. Without any additional explanation, he reached into the bottle, grabbed the chunk of potassium with the tongs, flung it into the puddle, and stepped back.
After a few seconds, the metal predictably exploded with a VERY loud bang, causing 35 English students to scream in unison and then rush to the window. The chemistry teacher stood there with a goofy grin on his face, and then shook his head and muttered to himself, "Yup...it's exothermic all right."
(For those who read the article, he also did the thermite experiment during the year, but put about three times the recommended amount of magnesium in each student's setup. There were metal chunks in the ceiling tile for years afterwards...)
-- "she says i'm lousy conversation. as if that's supposed to help."
Re:If we aren't supposed to try this at home
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radja
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to make sure that if you have a bottle of sulfuric acid, nitric acid and some glycerol, you don't want to accidently mix the acids in a 3 to 1 ration, and then inadvertently add the glycerol. don't breath the resulting product, since it vaporizes eaily and is an oft-used medicine for heartpatients. It widens bloodvessels. it is also rumoured this stuff makes a mighty good explosion. The exact product left as a reader's exercise...
//rdj
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No one can understand the truth until he drinks of coffee's frothy goodness.
--Sheikh Abd-Al-Kadir, 1587
One story I heard when I was in high school was that some years back some moron decided to steal some elemental sodium. Of course, he burnt himself pretty badly and got in serious trouble. I don't have any confirmation of this story, so it may not be true.
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Christ, what kind of childhood would I have had with THAT kind of advice?
insert your own lewd reference here.
Your mind is squeezed by a blast of pain!
Just how many of these experiments are copyrighted? i don't wanna pay the powers that be for the privilege of a cheap and easy chemical burn.
I remember finding a book of chemistry experiments, and being fascinated with what I could do with just mixing a couple things.
:)
Not simple stuff like "wow, vinegar and baking soda" (although kitchen chemistry is very cool), but "wow, battery acid, zinc and limestone will make lethal chlorine gas! cool!". (iirc)
While I don't want MOST kids getting that spin on it (:D), some golly-gee-whiz experiments at a YOUNG age, with some more every year, will help keep them interested in learning. And up here in Canada, at least, we've got a big problem with keeping boys interested in learning. But boys like things that go bang. Simple solution.
I think slashdot should have such a caching service too.
*NEWS* is almost never in google's cache.
As far as explosives go, lots of cool things to do with chemicals like magnesium and nitrates. Just might have to search a bit harder. `8r) But hell, just making hydrogen is fun, from electricity and water.
Gonzo Granzeau
"Nothing the god of biomechanics wouldn't let you into heaven for.." -Roy Batty
finally proof of what goes on inside when you eat Cornflakes
I always wanted to do this but was never allowed although I tried it with flower but got much worse results
if you really like to blow things up custard powder rocks !
this is why in medieval times they never allowed candles in the mill
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Not to plug my own site, but we have a really cool "fire in the bottle" how-to video.
Wooden armaments to battle your imaginary foes!
If you liked that, you might also want to check out the physics demonstration archive at my old school (UMD).
IIRC It's the largest in the country.
Oh yeah, the Question of the Week is also very good.
I also remember another demonstration in which he blew the lid of a can. I can't remember what he did then though.
Great teacher, if it weren't for his preparation I wouldn't have been able to get a 5 on the AP Chemistry test.
My only political goal is to see to it that no political party achieves its goals.
Wait until they put up pictures of their web server exploding from the /. effect...
sig fault
The Giant Artificial Poo! Although if you have sulfuric acid in your digestive tract, you're more of a man then I am.
And the brethren went away edified.
Hey Tom, watch this!*
*Also spoken before many Darwin Award candidates last moves.
OK, I skipped all the demos. I enjoyed chemistry but hated the labs. On the bottom of the page is a link to one of the web's most gorgeous periodic tables. Each group of elements is a different rainbow color.
If you click on each element you see an image of it in nature and get its history. If you click on the chemical information you see its image in pure form.
There are quicktime movies and Shockwave demos too. This is not the visual periodic table for nthing.
Roanna
Please visit ZOID CITY Community and Community Competition http://www.zc2zc3.st
Reading over the experiments listed on the site reminded me of one experiment we did in honors high school chemistry which was NOT included. Our "teacher" was actually someone from the art department who was pressed into service as a chemistry instructor because he had a few chemistry classes in college. He walked in one day with a freaky, glazed look in his eye and announced to the class that we were going to be doing an experiment to start the day. He went into the back room, came back with a pair of tongs and bottle of kerosene containing a chunk of potassium metal, and gestured for us to join him outside. We gathered around a large rain puddle from the previous day's storm, and he asked what class was in the room next door -- English, as it turned out. Without any additional explanation, he reached into the bottle, grabbed the chunk of potassium with the tongs, flung it into the puddle, and stepped back. After a few seconds, the metal predictably exploded with a VERY loud bang, causing 35 English students to scream in unison and then rush to the window. The chemistry teacher stood there with a goofy grin on his face, and then shook his head and muttered to himself, "Yup...it's exothermic all right." (For those who read the article, he also did the thermite experiment during the year, but put about three times the recommended amount of magnesium in each student's setup. There were metal chunks in the ceiling tile for years afterwards...)
"she says i'm lousy conversation. as if that's supposed to help."
to make sure that if you have a bottle of sulfuric acid, nitric acid and some glycerol, you don't want to accidently mix the acids in a 3 to 1 ration, and then inadvertently add the glycerol. don't breath the resulting product, since it vaporizes eaily and is an oft-used medicine for heartpatients. It widens bloodvessels. it is also rumoured this stuff makes a mighty good explosion. The exact product left as a reader's exercise...
//rdj
No one can understand the truth until he drinks of coffee's frothy goodness.
--Sheikh Abd-Al-Kadir, 1587
I seem to remember a friend doing this in Chem II class in high school, and getting detention for a week in the process.
Mr. Parker, I wonder if you (or your kids) read Slashdot...
Oh, what glorious fun we had with thermite, with a VERY small bit of sodium in chlorine (yikes!), with deflagrated oxygen and red phosphorus.
We never did get around to the filter-paper-soaked-with-perchlorate "land mines" that pop under your sneakers, but we *did* talk about it.
"How many light bulbs does it take to change a person?" --BMcC-->
Some video of: Fun with Liquid Nitrogen and Fun with High Voltage Electrical Discharges
One story I heard when I was in high school was that some years back some moron decided to steal some elemental sodium. Of course, he burnt himself pretty badly and got in serious trouble. I don't have any confirmation of this story, so it may not be true.
My only political goal is to see to it that no political party achieves its goals.