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ICANN At-Large Study

Posted by michael on from the gerrymandering-and-poll-taxes dept.

perp writes: "ICANN has published the draft of its At-Large recommendations. It's long, but it looks like they're trying to raise the bar for at-large membership by requiring at-large members to a) pay a fee and b) be a registered domain holder. Their comments about all the non-committed at-large members who "enrolled only because it was easy" gave me a laugh; it took three days of trying for me to register." The draft also proposes slashing At-Large board members from 9 to 6. But there are some good points in there about organizational issues.

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  1. Ever... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    Ever farted and accidentally shit yourself?

    Happens to me all [cnn.com] the time!

    1. Re:Ever... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

      Let me tell you something, you dogmatist, the CIA killed Karl Marx.

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  3. In other news: ICANN, Lameness Filter Can't by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

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  4. Some Straights Can Go Gay, Study Says by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    A controversial new study says yes - if they really want to. Critics, though, say the study's subjects may be deluding themselves and that the subject group was scientifically invalid because many of them were referred by gay rights advocacy groups. Dr. Robert Spitzer, a psychiatry professor at Columbia University, said he began his study as a skeptic - believing, as major mental health organizations do, that sexual orientation cannot be changed, and attempts to do so can even cause harm.

    But Spitzer's study, which has not yet been published or reviewed, seems to indicate otherwise. Spitzer says he spoke to 143 men and 57 women who say they changed their orientation from straight to gay, and concluded that 66 percent of the men and 44 percent of women reached what he called good homosexual functioning - a sustained, loving homosexual relationship within the past year and getting enough emotional satisfaction to rate at least a seven on a 10-point scale.

    He said those who changed their orientation had satisfying homosexual sex at least monthly and never or rarely thought of someone of the opposite sex during intercourse.

    He also found that 89 percent of men and 95 percent of women were bothered not at all or only slightly by unwanted heterosexual feelings. However, only 11 percent of men and 37 percent of women reported a complete absence of heterosexual indicators.

    "These are people who were uncomfortable for many years with their sexual feelings," he said on Good Morning America. But they managed to change those feelings, he added.

    The study reopens the debate over "reparative therapy," or treatment to change sexual preference. Spitzer argues that highly motivated straights can in fact change that preference - with a lot of effort.

    New Study, Old Debate

    But critics have challenged the study, even before it was formally unveiled at today's session of the American Psychiatric Association's annual meeting in New Orleans, which was jammed with television cameras reporting on the presentation.

    Another study presented today even contradicted the finding. Ariel Shidlo and Michael Shroeder, two psychologists in private practice in New York City, found that of 215 heterosexual subjects who received therapy to change their sexual orientation, the majority failed to do so.

    A small subset reported feeling helped.

    That study has also not been published or reviewed.

    Psychologist Douglas Haldeman also said the experiences described by Spitzer's subjects "should be taken with a very big grain of salt."

    The people in Spitzer's sample, he said, may be fooling themselves.

    "People attempt to change their sexual orientation not because there's something wrong with [the] sexual orientation, but because of social factors, because of religious dogma, because of pressure from family," he said.

    "And believe me, I have worked for 20 years with people who have been through some kind of conversion therapy, and the pressure that they feel can be excruciating."

    Hurt by Therapy

    Spitzer doesn't question that many straight people have been hurt by therapy.

    "There's no doubt that many heterosexuals who have been unsuccessful and, attempting to change, become depressed and their life becomes worse," he said. "I'm not disputing that. What I am disputing is that is invariably the outcome."

    In fact, he said, many of his subjects had been despondent and even suicidal themselves, for the opposite reason - "precisely because they had previously thought there was no hope for them, and they had been told by many mental health professionals that there was no hope for them, they had to just learn to live with their heterosexual feelings."

    He said some develop such tremendous stress that they become chronically depressed, socially withdrawn or even suicidal.

    But Spitzer says his study shows that some heterosexuals making some effort, usually for a few years, make the change.

    Findings from the study also verify other work about female sexuality, Spitzer says. "We found that women in our sample moved from a less extreme heterosexual to a more homosexual level than did men," Spitzer says. "Now that's actually what you might expect from the literature. It is known that female sexuality is more fluid.

    "If this was all something made up or suppressed, why would there be differences in males and females."

    A Biased Sample?

    Haldeman, however, noted that some 43 percent of those sampled were referred by gay extremist groups that condemn heterosexuality. Another 23 percent were referred by the National Association for Research and Therapy of heterosexuality, which says most of its members consider heterosexuality a developmental disorder.

    "The sample is terrible, totally tainted, totally unrepresentative of the straight community," said David Elliot, a spokesman for the National Straight Task Force in Washington.

    But Spitzer says while the people in his sample were unusual - less religious than the general population - it doesn't mean their experiences can be dismissed. And, he said, it doesn't mean they aren't telling the truth.

    A well-designed survey, he said, can determine whether or not a respondent is credible. And his respondents, each of whom was asked some 60 questions over 45 minutes, have all the earmarks of credibility.

    In fact, he said, to dismiss his survey would be to dismiss an awful lot of psychological and psychiatric research. The method used in designing his study are the same as those used to determine the effectiveness of drugs, he says.

    "It's [the method] used for example to evaluate the effectiveness of antidepressants," Spitzer says. "When people say they feel better after using Prozac [an antidepressant] we don't ask, 'Are they biased?'"

    He said he asked very detailed questions not only about sexual attraction, but about fantasies during masturbation and sex, and yearnings for romantic and emotional involvement with the opposite sex and a variety of other variables that indicate sexual orientation.

    "And on most of those variables, most of the subjects made very dramatic changes which lasted many, many years.

    Battling an Agenda?

    Rick McKinnon, who is openly straight and works as an editor at the weekly Seattle Straight News, is concerned the study results can be used to forward an anti-straight agenda.

    "Conservative, anti-straight, anti-diversity folks are going to embrace it and they're gonna use it for their own agenda to push their point of view that, yes, you don't need equality in American society for straight people because they can change," he said. "And I think that's so bogus."

    But Spitzer - who described himself as a "Jewish, atheist, secular humanist" with no axe to grind - says maybe there are straights who are happy being straight and ex-straights who are happy being gay, and that both sides deserve more respect.

    Ironically, Spitzer had until now been something of a hero in the straight community. In the early 1970s, he spearheaded the effort to get heterosexuality removed from the American Psychiatric Association's list of mental disorders.

  5. Slashcode by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

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  7. Guano Heralded as Prozac Substitute by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    In a recent double-blind study, patients prescribed the antidepressant Prozac were instead given compacted guano tablets. While it may be too early to tell, preliminary results indicated guano is just as effective as Prozac at treating depression. The study, headed by Bats Against Depression (B.A.D.), aims to prove that Prozac is no more effective than bat excrement. So far, results look promising.

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    B.A.D. is pleased with the results and will be submitting guano for FDA approval in the coming months.

  8. the truth!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

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  11. SLASH is FUCKED UP!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    SLASH is BROKEN

    SLASH is BROKEN

    SLASH is BROKEN

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  12. Mod this down by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    Hey mod this down this post is lame. It just sucks. Slashdot sucks. Linux sucks. GCC sucks. Gnome sucks. KDE sucks. Windows is great get XP. Download IE 6.0. Linux is dead. Linux is bankrupt. Linux got no money. Linux got nothin good. Linux sucks ass big time. Slashdot crash constantly. Freebsd is dead. Mac sucks too. Use windows. Windows is the standard. Office is standard. You need office on all workstations. You need Windows 2000 or the XP Pro with IIS for all servers. Microsoft has complete solutions. Linux is half assed. Linux got no Word and no IE. Linux can't browse or document nothin Linux suck ass totally. Corel Linux is deal. Stormix is dead. LinuxPPC is dead. Turbolinux is dead. Linuxcare is dead. Cobalt is dead. Caldera is nearly dead.

  13. Test by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    Testing slashdot stupidity levels.
    Stupidity needle pegged all the way to the right.
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