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Motorola Timeport 270c Review

ioman1 writes: "Designtechnica does a review of Motorola's first ever cell phone to use the Bluetooth technology. "With a variety of features including speakerphone, voice recognition, and voice activation, the Timeport 270c pretty much allows you to have the conveniences of a pager, cell phone, and laptop all in one little device." 'Course, the problem is getting all your devices to communicate using Bluetooth, and passing the data in a readable format. I will say, the sooner it works the happier I'll be - having to input all my phone numbers into a new cell phone *sucks*.

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  1. Useful?? by nate1138 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Yeah, finally a Bluetooth product makes it to market, but what's it gonna talk to?? Maybe a PC with a Bluetooth expansion module, but not much else right now. Wait a year or two for the price to come down, and Bluetooth to expand into other devices, then shell out for it.

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    1. Re:Useful?? by jandrese · · Score: 5, Informative

      It's the old Chicken-and-Egg problem. Nobody feels particularly inclined to get their Bluetooth technology to market because there are no other devices to talk to.

      I expect Bluetooth to be like USB. Pretty much useless for a couple of years except for the bleeding edge folks who don't mind buying technology before it's really ready. Have you seen the current bluetooth PCMCIA cards and their related software? Talk about a work in progress! I have one piece of software which will remain nameless where the Outlook like gui has widgets for all sorts of useful applications (LAN and Dial up access for instance) that don't actually work. If you dig aroudn on their site for awhile you discover that they don't work because they are implemented yet, the rest of the software crashes frequency and busywaits (I just love watching my OGR rate drop to 0 when the stupid BTEvents daemon starts up).

      Still, until companies start biting the bullet and releasing these devices you won't reach critical mass and they will never come down in price. Fortunatly companies aren't doing this, they're going ahead and realeasing their devices now even if they are uselese so that in a couple of years you will be able to use your cell phone to sync your PDA and print out slides for a meeting. Just remember the old jokes about how USB used to be "Useless Serial Bus", and now people are looking at getting rid of PS/2.

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    2. Re:Useful?? by duffbeer703 · · Score: 2

      Can't you use simply use a PCMCIA-PCI adapter like they use for wireless ethernet to use the bluetooth adapter?

      I have also seen drive-bay mounts for PCMCIA cards at a place I used to work at.

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  2. Get a GSM Phone by Frankus · · Score: 3, Insightful
    having to input all my phone numbers into a new cell phone *sucks*.

    Fortunately those of us with GSM phones haven't had to deal with this, since user data is stored on the SIM card.

  3. Correct Link by Foochar · · Score: 5, Informative

    Here is the Correct Link for the lazy. With some stuff on the end to get around the lameness filter...

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    1. Re:Correct Link by well_jung · · Score: 2
      Try the Product Page from Motorola. The designtechnica site ain't working so well. At least we can look at the phone.

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  4. How? by haroldK · · Score: 4, Interesting

    After reading the review, I'm still unclear how they can make the claim that it incorporates the functions of a laptop. I can see phone and pager, and maybe PDA, but not laptop.

  5. Re:For a buncha perl hackers... by Delirium+Tremens · · Score: 2, Funny

    It is just a new way of delaying the "Slashdot Effect".
    The name of this trick is the "Select-Copy-Select-Paste Slashdot Effect". I heard it scales quite better than the alternative.

  6. Wireless Wars by FFFish · · Score: 2

    Isn't Bluetooth the loser in the wireless wars? I though 802.11(?) was the one that looks like it'll succeed.

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    1. Re:Wireless Wars by rkischuk · · Score: 2, Informative

      Isn't Bluetooth the loser in the wireless wars? I though 802.11(?) was the one that looks like it'll succeed.

      Different technologies, different uses....

      Bluetooth is low power, lightweight, and suitable for embedding in almost any device (if you ignore the technical problems it has had).

      802.11b is more robust and high speed, but has higher power requirements. For many applications, wi-fi is overkill - like using a firewire port for a mouse.

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  7. This must be awesome! by Ghoser777 · · Score: 2

    From article:
    Timeport(TM) 270c pretty much allows you to have the conveniences of a pager, cell phone, and laptop all in one little device.

    WOW! I can play Q3 on this baby!?! And I can compile my little C and Java apps. I bet the resolution of the TV in from my TV tuner will be fantastic! Why on earth did I spend so much money on a laptop when I can get it all for less in the plam of my hand?

    F-bacher

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  8. Got excited for a minute... by weslocke · · Score: 2, Informative

    Until I actually read the article and found out that there really isn't the functionality of a PDA beyond storing addresses and emails (for the odd reason that you might want to put your email into a dead-end device to read. The DNRC Newsletter, maybe. ('Dogbert's New Ruling Class')

    Guess I'll still be waiting for a good Palm/PocketPC cellphone integration with Bluetooth support.

    .sigh.

    Btw, one thing I didn't see. Any built in games a la the Nokia phones? (Have to have priorities, you know) :^)

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  9. Timeport by jd · · Score: 5, Funny

    Bleagh.... When I first saw the headline, I thought they'd come out with a TARDIS extension.

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  10. What? by AugstWest · · Score: 2

    This thing does nothing like a laptop. It doesn't even do as much as a handheld, so how is it like a laptop?

  11. Lame Review by tb3 · · Score: 2
    Amongst numerous other annoyances in the review I noticed this little gem: the 270c has a built-in 365-degrees speakerphone.

    Arghh! 360 degrees in a circle, 365 days in a year. Or is he implying the battery lasts for a year?

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    1. Re:Lame Review by Rob+Kaper · · Score: 2
      Arghh! 360 degrees in a circle, 365 days in a year. Or is he implying the battery lasts for a year?


      No, it just gets vey hot.

  12. entering numbers into cellphone. by Lumpy · · Score: 3, Informative

    My qualicomm and Verizon made this easy.
    Go to my.verizon website, enter numbers and info.
    send.
    phone is now updated.
    Oh and I can beam them from my palm to the qualicomm and vicea versa.

    I assumed all advanced cellphones had this capability.

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    1. Re:entering numbers into cellphone. by Lumpy · · Score: 2

      Funny....

      They are in my phone. I access them the same way I access the caller id and last called (just using a different menu option.)

      Strange that I dont have to log on to the net and access them.. The older QPC qualicomm cant do this, you have to have the latest one.

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  13. price and dimensions by austad · · Score: 2

    WTF? They don't mention price, or the dimensions of the phone in either the article, or on Motorola's site. Is this thing like $4 billion and the size of a football?

    I'm more concerned about the size of the phone. If it won't fit in my pocket, I don't want it. Belt clips are for tools. (you can take that either way :)

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  14. Re:Bluetooth ~= wireless serial? by dannywyatt · · Score: 3, Insightful
    From the Motorola product page:

    synchronization, dial up networking and fax, capability

    The Dial-Up Networking Profile is exactly what your thinking of. Any other Bluetooth device that knows how to use the Dial-Up Networking Profile (which is all PCMCIA cards at this time) will be able to use the phone just like any other modem.

    "Profiles" is the Bluetooth name for standardized functionalities. So when you're looking at Bluetooth devices, check to see which profiles are implemented.

    On the more general note of Bluetooth as wireless serial: yes, it is. Bluetooth is capable of emulating--not that you'd ever want to--62 simultaneous serial ports. So if there isn't a profile that does what you want, you can implement it yourself over simulated serial links. Also, existing apps that know how to use a serial port will be very, very easy to retrofit to use Bluetooth.
  15. Infrared by srichman · · Score: 2

    Further, many newer high-end phones (e.g., the Nokia 8290) have infrared capability. I just have to put my 8290 near my computer's infrared port, put the phone in infrared mode, and my computer instantly recognizes it. Nokia's PC Suite software (and many third party programs) lets you copy entries to and from your phone's address book.

  16. Jeez. by Colin+Smith · · Score: 2

    Bluetooth and 802.11b are for entirely different purposes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Let me see you have a mobile phone headset talk to a mobile phone via 802.11b. Do you use ethernet to plug your mouse/keyboard into your PC?

    Cheeeerist, that bloody Intel twit has a lot to answer for.

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