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Hackers are 'Terrorists' Under Ashcroft's New Act

Carlos writes "Most computer crimes are considered acts of terrorism under John Ashcroft's proposed 'Anti-Terrorism Act,' according to this story on SecurityFocus. The Act would abolish the statute of limitations for computer crime, retroactively, force convicted hackers to give the government DNA samples for a special federal database, and increase the maximum sentence for computer intrusion to life in prison. Harboring or providing advice to a hacker would be terrorism as well. This is on top of the expanded surveillance powers already reported on. The bill could be passed as early as this week. I feel safer already."

48 of 1,021 comments (clear)

  1. yah by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    fp suckaz

  2. Re:This is what we've need for a while now by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    i really hope you're just trolling and are not really as stupid as you sound.

  3. oh great by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Think twice before reporting a found security flaw to someone.

  4. gas!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    GAS!

    I have GAS!

    FUcking help me !!

  5. Good! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    After pounding on Nimda for the last SEVERAL days. I'd like to have choice things done to the coder that wrote it...Damn Bastich Terrorist

  6. Re:Umm.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    We also employ assassins... or we did, but we likely will again.

  7. Re:Somebody has to say it, but... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Guess what the easy solution to this dilemma is?

    Don't break into anybody's computer.

    Problem solved.

  8. Re:Not Me! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    no no no, the worst they'll get is a white collar minimum security resort. did you know they have conjugal visits there?

  9. Re:Somebody has to say it, but... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    You sir, are an idiot.

  10. Re:Size Matters by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Thats not communism. That's fascism. Get it straight.

  11. Re:Come with me to hacker paradise! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    HA HA, yeah and what will you do when they
    BOMB canada for harboring terrorists??????

    Oh I forgot, they'll just distribute a list of
    "known" hackers aka Terrorists and then canada
    will round them up and ship them back to face
    life in jail.

  12. Re:Size Matters by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    A Communist country where corporate American rules...This makes absolutely no sense. They are on two opposite ends of the economic spectrum. Ashcroft's views are probably some of the most anti-communist out there. The man is an idiot, but at least correctly quote where he stands.

  13. Re:oh jesus... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Why the hell do people want to pick on computer criminals so much?

  14. Re:Umm.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Yeah, but the CIA doesn't care about that, since it is legal for them to break the law. At least that's what they think.

  15. Re:The answer is simple by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    so discussing security is now breaking the law.

  16. Re:Somebody has to say it, but... by kz45 · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    You must NOT be a SYSADMIN.......or a troll....

  17. Re:This about computer CRIMES, not hacking... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic
    Nice troll. Been aging that 400,000 series ID just for this one, or is it a habit? I hope you're one of the first ones to go to Federal pound-me-in-the-ass program for looking like a hacker.

    ~~~

  18. Re:Umm.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    YEAH GIVE HIM THAT (+1 underrated) mod CAUSE OBVIOUSLY HIS +1 BONUS MEANS HE'S WAY UNDERRATED. SUCK A COCK you STUPID PIECE OF SHIT moderator fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuckstick.

    Bitch.

  19. Vuglar comment reply by tonywong · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    This almost sounds too easy....ah...fuggetaboutit.

  20. Don't. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic
    Very hard. Soon it will be:
    • Don't use PCs without a government backdoor.
    • Don't eat, sleep or shit without reporting it first to the office John Ashcroft.
    • Don't go outside without calling local FBI office telling them where you are going, when you are getting there and what you are doing.
    • Don't, don't, don't.

    If you like "don't" so much, why not go to a country where you HAVE no freedoms to begin with. I'll stay here with my friends and you go there with yours. We'll all be happy.
  21. Re:script kiddies beware! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Thank you for missing the point of humor entirely.

  22. Re:Growing marijuana by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Is John Ashcroft the Anti-Christ?

  23. Re:Growing marijuana by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Yes. He is also the Cigarette Smoking Man.

  24. Re:Not Me! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic
    Not from what I've heard. Most people get time in a federal "pound-me-in-the-ass" prison...

    Gotta love Office Space....

  25. Re:DNA samples? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    i got the joke.

  26. Re:Somebody has to say it, but... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Piss off the jackbooted thugs by doing something legal (like pointing out thier gross abuses of power) and then see if you think selective application of these new laws affects you.

  27. Re:Jeremiah Cornelius mom's exploitable backdoor by kiwipeso · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    MOD THIS UP!

    fuck this is funny shit...

    --
    - Kaos games and encryption systems developer
  28. Who is the greatest financier? by Zen+Mastuh · · Score: 1, Offtopic

    I am well aware that nearly all fingers point to Usamah ibn Laden and that Afghanistan's ruling militia, the Taliban, is possibly harboring him and his cohorts. I am also aware that we (the U.S.) are about to bomb the shit out of Afghanistan to "have closure" or "send a message" or whatever the white trash meme of the day is.

    Fact: The Bush Administration gave the Taliban ~$43 million only four months ago to "curtail opium production". How much could it possibly cost, in the world's poorest country, to behead someone with the sword at your side when you catch him with opium? If ibn Laden is guilty, and the Taliban guilty of supporting him, then Bush is complicit in financing him. This is the same Bush whose inheritance grows larger every time you buy a gallon of gas.

    --
    "What is the sound of one belly slapping?"
  29. Re:Size Matters by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Hate to tell you, but America sorta already is that.

  30. Re:This about computer CRIMES, not hacking... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Hate to piss in your wheaties, but the 'cracker' and hacker goes back to Phrack Vol 1. 1985.

  31. Hacking IS A COMPUTER CRIME YOU STUPID IDIOT!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    How can anyone be so stupid. Just shut up!

  32. Re:Somebody has to say it, but... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    heh! heh! heh!

    Look, Beavis. That guy used a cliche!

    Jack booted thugs, indeed....

  33. Who is more fanatical by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic
    It amazes me that americans despite the propaganda they are fed do no realize that they live in the most fanatical and oppresive regime in the world.


    By 2100 - 100% of the us population will be in prison, on parole, or employed in the law enforcement


    The US is the only western country whose politics is domininated by insane right wing - so called christian fanatics.
    Give me Castro any day!

    silverrouge@hotmail.com

  34. Re:Phil Zimmerman harbors TERRORISTS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Patch your servers. That isn't really all that hard. I'm not saying it will stop a persistant hacker(by the way, if someone opens my the window to my house and climbs in just to "look around", I will beat the snot out of them. He will wish he was in jail!), but it will stop the virus/worm crap.
    I haven't been infected nor my clients by any of the worms this year. I just patch the OS/APP as the vendor makes them available.

  35. Re:This about computer CRIMES, not hacking... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    different kind of cracking, genius.

  36. Re:If you liked the Drug War, you'll LOVE... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Rage Against The Machine are a bunch of pseudo-rebellious wanks.

  37. Only one answer.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Only one answer to this shit and others (DMCA, SSSCA, Encryption backdoors, etc).. Rebel. Revolution. Now.

    1. Re:Only one answer.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

      damn right
      i've been waiting for it for a long time
      i know what side i'll be on

  38. Re:proposed bill??? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    oops,

    Sorry. I will open my eyes

  39. Re:def con by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    OH, I JUST GOT IT!

    This is all a ploy to get the evolution going again: Only the best of the brightest won't get caught and will get to make a pseudo-clone of themselves.
    A couple of generations of this and we'll have even brighter script kiddies.

    What a brilliant plan...

  40. Re:Ouch! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic
    I conduct Penetration Testing and vulnerability assesments for a living

    So do I...turns out she wasn't too vulerable and our relationship has gone bad so she's resorted to false accusations and ruined my chances with yer flock of cute friends :(

  41. Re:This is nothing new... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Zionism is racism you fucking prick.

  42. Re:Somebody has to say it, but... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    If someone hacks VWs website and gets one of those new beetles sent to them for free should they be charged with auto theft?

  43. Script kiddies as terrorists? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Hacking into E*Trade and causing millions of dollars worth of malicious transactions is the digital equivalant of terrorism, an attack on financial infrastructure, and should be punished as such.

    Defacing a website is the digital equivalant of spraying graffiti on a wall, a petty crime against personal property, and should be punished as such.

    For digital crimes as well as old-fashioned ones, a distinction must be made as to the nature and magnitude of the offence.

    Classifying script kiddies as terrorists is the moral equivalant of classifying shoplifting, speeding, or graffitti as terrorist acts. If we go down that path then, soon, everybody will be a terrorist.

  44. Hey Muslim pigs ! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic
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  45. Re:Giving advice to hackers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    2600 magazine qualifies as a bunch of fuckin fags.

  46. Re:Somebody has to say it, but... by Retarded_One · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    You did not bow down and preach the glories of Gnu/Slashdot, trollboy.

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