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British Colleges Selling Screen Saver Ad Space

gotroot801 writes: "The Chronicle of Higher Education is reporting that eighteen British institutions plan to generate income during the coming academic year by displaying advertisements on the computer screen savers of students, professors, and staff members. Why does this remind me of that Simpsons episode where Troy McClure is teaching a Pepsi-sponsored class?"

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  1. Nothing New by Moonshadow · · Score: 5, Funny
    Already happening!

    I'm the unofficial tech for my residence hall, and make a lot of "fix my computer" calls. You'd be suprised how many "Absolut" and other such products are featured prominately on my neighbors screens :)

  2. Need more school income? This is a good idea. by DrEldarion · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Especially in areas where funding for schools is absolutely horrible. I know you anti-advertisement-nazis will jump all over this, but there is NO harm in showing some pepsi ads on the screen while no one is at the computer. I mean, hell, they might not even HAVE those computers if it weren't for the advertisements.

    These schools need funding, they get it through showing advertisements in a non-obtrusive manner. I say that all underfunded schools should do this. Some school systems need as much money as they can get...

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  3. What's next, OS adverts? by gregoryl · · Score: 5, Funny

    I can just imagine when Microsoft gets a hold of this idea:

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  4. excellent by BenHmm · · Score: 5, Informative

    Cultural note, people. British universities are effectively free - government funded - with comparitively tiny student fees, if any at all. Their alumni associations are small, and don't raise anything like the amounts their US counterparts do.

    So...

    They need the money, advertisers think it's a good idea, and students won't notice it after a week or two (even if they had cash to spend, which most don't).

    Sounds like, Win/Win/Win to me, especially if the money goes on more books, computers or teaching staff.

  5. Commercialising education by gorre · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Obviously this is a good thing as many colleges are under funded in the UK (my dad works at a college where they are facing redundancies like several others here in Scotland) but there must be control as education should not be too dependant on companies. For example microsoft sponsored computer science departments serving up propaganda from the evil empire.

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  6. UHM by rhymez0r · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Has anyone else thought about how stupid this is? Screensavers come on WHEN NO ONE is at the computer!

    1. Re:UHM by Moonshadow · · Score: 4, Funny
      And then you get the brilliant idea that, "Hey, if we password protect these screensavers, and tell no one what the password is, the ads will get even MORE run time, and we'll get more money!"

      What do you want to bet?

  7. Re:Enforceable how? by the_other_one · · Score: 4, Funny

    The waste basket will be replaced by a shopping cart icon.

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  8. What they don't say by JCCyC · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Will the screensaver time be forced to a certain value? Forbidden to be changed thru Windows system policies? What about turning off the monitor when you live? What about blacklisting the companies participating in the annoyance and starting a boycott? (College students ARE of the activist type, you know.)

  9. Grammar Nazi, -1 Offtopic by RasputinAXP · · Score: 5, Funny

    I'd worry about the benefits of paying attention in English class instead of the money you'll be saving. It's not going to have much of an effect on your spending habits, but just think of all the benefits you could get with a good college education!

    I mean, it looks like you're working so hard at it!

  10. Acceptable commercials policy: a can of worms by mfarah · · Score: 5, Insightful
    I'm not gonna go into the obvious "alcohol & cigarettes comercials are forbidden because that's the policy", but on two more subtle ones:

    • Are political campaigns acceptable? Condom commercials acceptable? Commercials from OTHER colleges?

    • Who will get to set the "unacceptable" policy and how will its fairness be enforced? For example, let's say that I'm a raving laborist, and I decide to ban propaganda from the Conservative Party in my college. Or worse, let's say that Coca-cola has lots of ads in this system, and Pepsi pays me to ban those commercials.



    Of course, the loss of "editorial" independence of the college is a serious peril.

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  11. Correction by Ezubaric · · Score: 4, Funny

    The as the poster is thinking of has a first name, it's O-S-C-A-R. The advertisment has a second name, it's M-A-Y-E-R:

    Principal Skinner: We can buy real periodic tables, instead of these promotional ones from Oscar Mayer.
    Ms. Krabapple: Now, who can tell me the atomic weight of bolonium?
    Martin: Ohhh... delicious?
    Karbapple: Correct. I would also accept snacktacular.

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  12. Re:Need more school income? This is a good idea. by error0x100 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    but there is NO harm in showing some pepsi ads on the screen while no one is at the computer

    Has it occurred to you that any intended impartiality (and thus quality) of education is immediately placed at risk when the interests of a third-party are involved? Consider: (1) Do you think an education should be questioning and impartial? (2) Do you think that your education will in all cases remain questioning and impartial should a conflict of interests arise between the educators and the sponsors? (As an example, we already have educational institutions that ONLY teach Microsoft software, in exchange for donations of computers from Microsoft.)

    This sort of thing happens, and will happen more and more in the future, particularly as more advertisers (and universities) start to realise that they get much better results from a highly targeted audience - that is, companies specifically related to some field sponsoring education of students within that field. That of course is nothing new, but in the past the sponsorship has been quiet and behind-the-scenes, while currently the trend is towards not only more overtly visible sponsorshop, but editorial control of the content of lectures by the sponsors. So Pepsi is not a very good example, as they probably don't have much interest in whether Linux or Windows gets used in the labs. But other sponsors will; and the Universities will accept those sponsors above Pepsi because more targeted advertising means better results which means more money.

    Schools do need money of course, so this may in many cases not be a bad thing. Where do you draw the line?

    Regarding the "nazi" comment: although I realise it was probably just hyperbole for effect, I kind of resent the noxious implication of an immediate association between being "anti-advertisement" and being a nazi. As I have explained, there can be valid reasons to be against this type of advertising; its a lot harder to justify the kind of fanatical white supremacy associated with nazis :)

  13. Re:Need more school income? This is a good idea. by T.Hobbes · · Score: 5, Insightful
    You do realize that the nazis were, in general, all for advertising; it was mostly state advertising - what you'd pejoritavly call 'propaganda' - but advertising none the less. From this freudian slip one can glean the reason why people arn't too keen on having pepsi logos within the walls of a school - because a school must be an area where one is free to think, and free from the imposition of the ideologies and ideas by others. This is, of course, never the case in practice; that is, however irrelevent - though theft continues, society deems it worthwhile to keep theft on the books as a crime. Likewise, though the school environment will never be absolutly free in an intellectual sense, this is no reason to allow for the introduction of programs which diminish the freedom of thought within said school.

    Advertising is, in and of itself, deteremental to the freedom of thought, whereever it exitsts. The sole purpose of advertising is to change the opinion of those advertised to towards the desired opinion of the advertiser. Pepsi wants you to think two things: that consumerism is the path to happiness, and that consumption of Pepsi is the ideal path to consumer bliss. The first of their tenants is the most significant; the consumer culture is the dominant culture in the Wester world, making institutions of higher learning very significant places vis-a-vis societal decisions regarding said culture. If the consumer culture is ever to be altered or removed, it is the institutions of higher learning which will be instrumental in effecting that change. Thus, to have private interests on _either_ side of the consumerism debate press their views within the school environment, and press those views through the medium of advertising, is detremental to society's future direction vis-a-vis consumerism, if only because it limits the ability of important members of society to choose freely where they stand on the issue.

    On the issue of funding; while schools may be short of money for chalk, blackboards, or CRTs, this is no excuse for the erroding of the very purpose of the school. As I have outlied above, advertising is counter-productive the program of a school in general. Thus, if a school finds itself short of money, it should and must raise the funds it needs from legitimate sources; in the case of the United Kingdom, this is very clearly the state (if you do not know already, the state funds schools in Great Britian to a very large extent, nearly- or completely eliminating the need for student fees). If the stone of government has run dry, tell the student to wear sweters in winter; reduce expenses; be inventive. Do not, however, fundamentally comprimise the purpose of the institution on the alter of the e-classroom.

  14. Web channels by os2fan · · Score: 5, Funny
    Didn't MS try something like this with their channel placement thing a few years back?

    I'm waiting to see who buys out the Blue Screen space: Can you imagine it if RedHat bought it out. "Well, another BlueScreen: Don't you wish you were on RedHat Linux today?"

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