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VIM 6.0 is Out
LinuxNews.pl writes "It's more then a year after releasing the first 6.0 alpha. Lot's of improvements (i.e. you can edit files via FTP!) - check
them out on vim.org" Of course everyone knows that vim is the best text editor in the world. Anyone who tells you differently is either wrong, lying, or criminally insane. (Or an emacs user, in which case they are wrong, lying and criminally insane).
Taco's comments wouldn't be considered flamebait... Nah...
as a novice linux user I ask what is the difference between Vi And EMACS. I don't want to hear your opinion, but feature wise what is the difference?
No flames please.
Photos.
Don't expect great new features in a next version. Vim has grown into a complex program with so many features and options that there is nobody who uses them all. Stability and easy of use are the main goals for the future.
I'm not a vi user, and this isn't intended to start a flame war, but it's nice to see vim sticking by it's one of it's principles - making a lightweight editor.
Definetly... emacs is way more powerfull, as well as vi, but nedit for quick, painless editing really rocks.
And is the only editor really modeless for Unix I know. I mean really modeless: open the Find window and you can still edit your text. You can open N windows at the same time, each for it's own function, and they all work at the same time, just like old X11 programs used to be, and contrary to most windows programs where opening special window deactivates the main window.
You cannot proceed from the informal to formal by formal means
Real Programmers...: /. flamewars.
* Doesn't get mixed into
* Doesn't care how other people do their work - as long as they get it done.
* Do care enough about how he/she does the job and makes his own choises.
(I've currently only broken 1 of the aboves. Getting closer.)
Look a monkey!
I do believe it's called "humor", as in VIM vs EMACS is a geek injoke....
:(
Of course, the holy wars start because people have no sense of humor about this stuff.
:)
hawk
Well, that's easy to say, but emacs has had ftp editing for at least 4 years (probably much longer). In my exeperience, it's been more powerful and more customizable than vi has been (and I learned vi first, yes).
Subjective issues aside, what does vi do that emacs doesn't? The only thing I've ever heard that I believe is that it loads faster.
The more I hear about the many "features/modules" of Emacs/XEmacs the more I want to dowload and try it out, seems to me that it is not "monolithic", but rather customizable to the point of a development evironment you do nopt have to leave, most of the time, that is for those of us who prefer the console style environment. And I am thinking this coming from four years of using straight vi/vim.
Is a Sig really an expression of the person behind the post or just random nonsense?
Therefore, no matter what you use on a regular basis, you should still learn how to use vi.
No, Thursday's out. How about never - is never good for you?
Truth be told, I started out as a vi bigot. EMACS was Eight Megs And Constantly Swapping, and I was constantly killing hung emacs processes left by my tcsh-using sidekick... (dammit, when the shell exits, it should bloody well SIGHUP the children... but that's another holy war...) And then there was the night I spent trying to upgrade my then-boss' personal AIX box. I ran out of DASD and it marked the kernel "broken" by mistake. A little RTFM on his partner's machine, fire up emacs, fix the LPP database the hard way, and the boss gets to work to find he's able to read an email timestamped 4-something-am instead of to find a busted machine. The rest has been a ten-year gradual slide into the world of auto-fill-mode, emerge, and find-file-other-window... yes, I still use vi for the occasional "quickie" editing task, and I don't disparage those who insist on only using it to the point of narfing a Win32 binary of vim or elvis... that's their choice, they're entitled to it, and I don't think it's wrong.
I would like to say, though, that given the fact that I've become an emacs user, and that some pseudo-Muslim fanatics have dared cause mass mayhem on American soil, and that some other pseudo-Christian fanatics have dared use xenophobia as an excuse for those attacks, I'm not surprised to see the Head Slashdotter trolling on his own front page. Whether or not his comment was in jest, it says a lot more about him than it does about me... and what it says is not very nice.
What a previous poster said: One war at a time, Taco.
We now return you to something vaguely resembling Stuff That Matters.
PS Emacs rules!
"I like to wear big boy pants."
It's late, I've just got back from work, and right at this moment, I don't care. So I'll respond. It's only more productive because you don't know how to use vi properly
"The invisible and the non-existent look very much alike." -- Delos B. McKown
emacs won the war long ago against vi. vim is a different beast however. As someone said: emacs is a great operating system, but when I want to edit something I use vim. vim is still the best programmers editor. (Whish is what I use it for...) But personal preferences set aside. Some of the coolest things vim now has is vertical splitting, and code folding. It may or may not be true that emacs has had this for bilions and bilions!? of years, but that's not the issue... its just really useful stuff being added to the staple-code editor. My 0.02