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Cheaper Carnivore Alternatives Still Want To Spy On You

Posted by timothy on from the less-blatant-but-still-blatant dept.

Troodon writes: The Register reports on Forensics Explorers' NetWitness. Rather than relying upon the FBI's 'fail-safe' separation of Carnivore Operators and Case Agents to discriminate between legitimate data and that inadmissably, incidentally siphoned up along with it and submitting to the installation of a mysterious black box within their network, ISP's can comply with CALEA in-house for approximately $2,500 per collector and between $35,000 and $45,000 for an analysis station. Should you fancy a little development, another cheaper alternative exists: Altivore." Not sure any of this is much comfort -- the lesser of two evils is still evil.

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  1. Crazeee by jimbis · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Very, very dodgy...

  2. Offtopic by xQx · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    What? Like, First Post `n stuff.

  3. Let me get this straight... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    The worst terrorist attack in recorded history occurred less than three weeks ago, and you people have the gall to be discussing Forensics Explorers' NetWitness. Rather than relying upon the FBI's 'fail-safe' separation of Carnivore Operators and Case Agents to discriminate between legitimate data and that inadmissably, incidentally siphoned up along with it and submitting to the installation of a mysterious black box within their network, ISP's can comply with CALEA in-house for approximately $2,500 per collector and between $35,000 and $45,000 for an analysis station ???? My *god*, people, GET SOME PRIORITIES!

    The bodies of the 6000+ innocent people who died in this unprecedented tragedy could give a good god damn about ..., your childish Lego models, your nerf toy guns and whining about the lack of a "fun" workplace, your Everquest/Diablo/D&D fixation, the latest Cowboy Bebop rerun, or any of the other ways you are "getting on with your life" (here's a hint: watching Cowboy Bebop in your jammies and eating a bowl of Shreddie's is *not* "getting on with your life"). The souls of the victims are watching in horror as you people squander your precious time on this earth on video games.

    You people disgust me. In a way, you're almost as bad as the terrorists themselves. At least they had the conviction to die doing something they believed in. ;-(

    1. Re:Let me get this straight... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

      Oops, made a mistake with my cut-n'-paste troll. :-) The last paragraph's "...." was supposed to be replaced with the appropriate story phrase. ;-)

    2. Re:Let me get this straight... by jellybear · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      If less people had the conviction to die doing crazy evil things, and more people sat around in jammies eating Shreddies, the world would be a better place

  4. The EU recommends using PGP by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    to prevent Americans from spying on European companies. Advice i`m already taking! Why not join me?

    1. Re:The EU recommends using PGP by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

      'cos I use GPG instead....

  5. altivore is a funny name by jellybear · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    This stuff should be open-sourced I guess

  6. Frost Pist! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic
    Just call me cocksickle!


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  7. Re:It won't matter by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Dear God, should i have read that for syntax before i posted it...

  8. Tales from the Koran: How Mohammed met his end. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic
    We shove Jimmy Dean® Homestyle Pork Sausage up Mohammed's ass. Then while the Giver strokes me off I shoot my wad in Mohammed's face, after which we force Mohammed to fellate an 800 pound Chester White. Simultaneously, two Hasidic rabbis open their kosher bowels, unleashing torrents of gefilte shit on Mohammed's head and back, while The Giver pumps Mohammed from behind. After the hog shoots its wad in Mohammed's mouth, The Giver shoots his load up Mohammed's rectum.

    Then, unexpectedly, the Chester White roots out Mohammed's penis and testicles, hungrily biting them off, gobbling them down with full porcine fury. We bury the newly castrated Mohammed up to his nose in pig manure. Two AIDS infected Bowery whores stuff their used condoms and clotted tampax down Mohammed's throat, and crack a bottle of Mad Dog 20/20 over his skull. We then leave him for the hogs to munch on. Mohammed is swine feed, and by tomorrow, he will be swine manure.

  9. Re:It won't matter by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    please admit that you have no clue how any terrorists actually communicate, you probably know no one in the CIA, NSA, or FBI. this is just karma whoring to the max, god moderators are suckers for this crap. you're telling me every intelligence operation has failed in this country? i'll give you a hint, you don't hear about the ones that work, because nothing happens. damn you for accusing the hard workers in these fields.

  10. Hey Muslim pigs! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic
    Hahaha you dirty, filty, smelly, circumsized, muslim pigs who are running this useless website. Look t This Picture and get ready to pss in your pants along with your Mohammed (piss be upon him) and your dirty QUEERAN, that tells you that you will have 72 houris and 28 gay boys for sex in heaven.

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  11. Re:It won't matter by King+Of+Chat · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    Well, if people didn't think they were inept before, they sure do now.

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    This sig made only from recycled ASCII
  12. Re:Carnivore on crack by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic
    No! don't run for the hills - if it's already high, it's probably already up there!

    Ouch.

  13. Forensic sex by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    - - -

    Is it just me, or when I read the url : http://www.forensicsexplorers.com/analysissystem.a sp

    posted on the front page

    I read Forensic Sexplorers.com/anal system.asp

    Does the FBI always leave clues this obvious?

  14. I don't trust Altivore... by Scratch-O-Matic · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    I'm holding out for carGNivore.

    Or GNOC (GNOC's Not Carnivore)

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    Evil is the money of root.