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Cheaper Carnivore Alternatives Still Want To Spy On You
Troodon writes: The Register reports on Forensics Explorers' NetWitness.
Rather than relying upon the FBI's 'fail-safe' separation of Carnivore Operators and Case Agents to discriminate between legitimate data and that inadmissably, incidentally siphoned up along with it and submitting to the installation of a mysterious black box within their network, ISP's can comply with CALEA in-house for approximately $2,500 per collector and between $35,000 and $45,000 for an analysis station. Should you fancy a little development, another cheaper alternative exists: Altivore." Not sure any of this is much comfort -- the lesser of two evils is still evil.
Speaking of spies... ASIO is to get the power to compell those it chooses to interrogate to answer its questions... multi-year jail-terms for those who decline to answer the questions...
"Einstein argued that [...] God is not capricious or arbitrary. No such faith comforts the software engineer." ~ Brooks
Say that i was a terrorist... i would think twice before using e-mail or other tech to convey messages.. especially now i know they use this privacy invading crap....
well then, the FBI would score that as a win... denying an enemy a method of communication and forcing them to use "lotek" is a benifeciary result.. they would assume the homing pigeon problem was a whole 'nother program
Give us your crypto keys + If you refuse you go to jail (If you tell anyone you are under invstigation you go to jail for even longer)
Tell them you have forgot your keys or missplaced them and the burden of proof is on you to prove your innocence. Not on them to prove your guilt! (Tell me... how I'm supposed to prove I have forgoten something?)
Basicly this walks all over your rights to protect yourself from self-incriminaton and the right to be innocent untill proven guilty
Dont worry too much though, I'm waiting for the first test case to go to the European court of Human rights.... It cant last.
Anyone quoted by a reporter knows how little they understand
Don't believe what you read is the truth.
But the flip side is the terrorists have also achieved that NO-ONE trusts the internet.. thus creating another problem.. remember.. terrorists are not dependend on tech.. WE ARE!
The whole issue with ECHELON showed that bussiness use of the internet is depending on strong security and encryption.. giving the keys over to the US government isn't quite safe.. (since echelon allready is US government owned)...
So... who would benefit most from carnivore and anti encrytion laws? Not us... only the government...
Who would lose most from carnivore and anti encrytion laws? Not terrorists.... just us and international bussiness...
I understand this is a very delicate subject but is it important for us to lose our rights as opposed to gain security? And what kind of security will we gain? At this very moment it is a very hot topic in the light of sept 11th but how will we look upon these issues in say 2 years from now?
What are we to gain at all?
The WTC bombers communicated in the clear, because no one knew enough to intercept their stuff.
You have to know who to spy on before this stuff does any good. That takes Intelligence. And intelligence.
Both are in short suply.
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A lot of civil liberties proponents lose the plot at some point, and viciously attack any attempts at monitoring or interception. While I'm all for screaming blue murder about wholesale invasion of data and privacy, there is a point at which the state investigatory power that be require legitimate access to communications.
No, this would not have stopped Bin Laden & co, who communicated in public. Nor will it stop many related activites. But it is extremely effective against fraud and crime syndicates. I come from a country where these crimes are rife, and most convictions follow some form of search warrant.
The dividing line between good and bad is the inclusion of the court system into the process. Courts can already give permission for physical searches and wiretaps, subject to the provision of prima facae evidence. This is good.
Enough evidence must exist to convince a court that there is likely to be a crime, and that a particular person/group is likely to be implicated, before such a warrant will be issued.
There should be no difference for digital communications. Wiretaps could be used along with equipment to translate the wire signal into packet data, but this is inefficient. Just a telecoms companies are obliged to cooperate with the police (FBI), so ISPs, arguably the carrier for TCP/IP based data, should be obliged to cooperate (although not necessarily at their own cost).
When it comes to encrypted communication, the lines blur a little more, but only a little. You can be prosecuted for refusing to acknowledge a search warrant, or for refusing to testing (except in cases involving the Fifth Ammendment; and many countries don't have an equivalent), or for withholding evidence; so you should be able to be prosecuted for not providing the cleartext to an encrypted communication and, if necessary, proving it is a decryption of the ciphertext.
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What simple-minded idiots want the authorities to have access to everything you do?
Government say about surveillance - "you've nothing to fear - if you are not breaking the law"
This argument is made to pressure people into acquiesce - else appear guilty.
It does not address the real reason, why they want this information - they want a surveillance society.
They wish to invade your basic human right to privacy.
This is like having somebody watching everything you do - all your thoughts, hopes and fears will be open to them.
All your finances for them to scrutinize - heaven help you if you cannot account for every cent when they check on your taxes.
Do not believe the lies of Government - even more money spent on Carnivore will not protect you.
Do you not think - even once encryption back doors and greater surveillance are introduced, and you could guarantee the impossible - that they could defeat all steganography:
That - when not planning face to face, terrorists will just have to send personal couriers - or get caught?
Perhaps give mobile for single message when required - just using message - go with plan a / b or abort.
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