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Newest Mandrake Linux Delayed

Jens Lönn writes: "Linux seller MandrakeSoft has had to delay shipment of its newest version of Linux because of problems in moving manufacturing to the United States. Mandrake Linux 8.1 is available as a download, but the first CDs of the product were supposed to ship by the end of September. "Getting 8.1 production up and running in North America has been a slow and expensive process," the company said in a e-mail message to those who have ordered the CD." Since Mandrake makes certains things so easy (smooth installation), I hope they soon get their newest release again on Walmart shelves across the U.S.

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  1. Smooth Installation... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Very smooth installation...until you mistakingly think the grey colored stars meant selected and format the wrong hard drives :(

  2. Of course... by Greylin · · Score: 4, Informative

    There is always the availability of CDs via Cheap*Bytes

    All three CDs (two install and the supplemental) including shipping for $10 US

    --
    there are doorways I haven't opened, and windows I've yet to look through. Going forward may not be the answer..
  3. This bodes not well... by fmaxwell · · Score: 5, Insightful

    There is no shortage of U.S. firms capable of packaging software and Mandrake's delay in getting their product to market could have dire consequences. The entire Linux distribution market is in a precarious position. Their business model is predicated on most potential customers not having the bandwidth to download multiple CDs, but with cable modems (and DSL connections) finding their way into more and more homes, many people are finding that downloading 1-5 CDs is no big deal. Start it up, wait a few hours or go to bed, burn them the next day.

    Add a delay to the availability of a boxed distribution and suddenly people are asking their friends with high-speed connections to download and burn a set of CDs for them. Some that would have paid for a retail copy will now download it themselves rather than wait for it to appear on store shelves.

    The only hope that I see for the Linux distro market in the near future is to switch over to DVDs since most people currently lack the capability of burning DVDs from images.

  4. RedHat have the same problems by geirt · · Score: 4, Offtopic

    I believe RedHat have the same problems, since RedHat 7.2 has been ready (even on the mirrors) for some time now, but they will not distibute it (ie. add the everyone-read bit to the file permissions) until they have the CDs ready.

    The RedHat 7.2 relase is available trough rsync ....

    $ rsync -av csociety-ftp.ecn.purdue.edu::pub/redhat/redhat/lin ux/7.2/en/iso

    *** Welcome to the Purdue University Computer Society RSYNC Server
    *** Purdue University, West Lafayette, IN
    http://csociety.ecn.purdue.edu/

    This archive is available via FTP, HTTP, and RSYNC at:
    ftp://csociety-ftp.ecn.purdue.edu/pub/
    http://csociety-ftp.ecn.purdue.edu/pub/
    rsync://csociety-ftp.ecn.purdue.edu/pub/

    Report problems to ftp@csociety.ecn.purdue.edu

    receiving file list ... done
    dr-x------ 4096 2001/10/05 01:54:02 iso
    dr-x------ 4096 2001/10/04 02:01:50 iso/doc
    -rw-r--r-- 50 2001/10/04 02:02:00 iso/doc/MD5SUM
    -rw-r--r-- 624476160 2001/10/04 00:35:00 iso/doc/enigma-docs.iso
    dr-x------ 4096 2001/10/04 02:03:42 iso/i386
    -rw-r--r-- 226 2001/10/04 02:04:22 iso/i386/MD5SUM
    -rw-r--r-- 680282112 2001/10/04 00:27:19 iso/i386/enigma-SRPMS-disc1.iso
    -rw-r--r-- 542537728 2001/10/04 00:29:25 iso/i386/enigma-SRPMS-disc2.iso
    -rw-r--r-- 677961728 2001/10/04 00:22:08 iso/i386/enigma-i386-disc1.iso
    -rw-r--r-- 669429760 2001/10/04 00:24:42 iso/i386/enigma-i386-disc2.iso
    wrote 94 bytes read 691 bytes 314.00 bytes/sec
    total size is 3194687764 speedup is 4069665.94


    $ rsync -av csociety-ftp.ecn.purdue.edu::pub/redhat/redhat/lin ux/7.2/en/iso/i386/MD5SUM .

    *** Welcome to the Purdue University Computer Society RSYNC Server
    *** Purdue University, West Lafayette, IN
    http://csociety.ecn.purdue.edu/

    This archive is available via FTP, HTTP, and RSYNC at:
    ftp://csociety-ftp.ecn.purdue.edu/pub/
    http://csociety-ftp.ecn.purdue.edu/pub/
    rsync://csociety-ftp.ecn.purdue.edu/pub/

    Report problems to ftp@csociety.ecn.purdue.edu

    receiving file list ... done
    wrote 106 bytes read 500 bytes 242.40 bytes/sec
    total size is 226 speedup is 0.37


    $ cat MD5SUM
    efab549656a1a85ab8fa39eb873eff0e enigma-SRPMS-disc1.iso
    70703897af7703b40e41777a3aa186c3 enigma-SRPMS-disc2.iso
    cf7bce0c1cdbfedfae29e60aef202f6f enigma-i386-disc1.iso
    fd705b3e5d0e37a828db35d21195a9f6 enigma-i386-disc2.iso

    Note that the files are dated 2001/10/04

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    RFC1925
  5. Re:wal-mart shelves? by mrpengin · · Score: 5, Funny
    That's funny...

    I have a friend who was employed in the "electronics" department at Wal-Fart.
    While stocking shelves one day, a co-slave looked at him and said

    "What the H*LL is this [the Mandrake box]."

    My friend attempted to explain

    "So it's like Windows. Isn't that illegal."

    My friend now works at Pizza-Hut.

    --

  6. Problems by tiny69 · · Score: 5, Interesting
    They are having more than just shipping problems. This was just recently posted to the Bastille mailing list:

    Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2001 00:22:18 -0700
    From: Jay Beale
    To: bastille-linux-discuss@lists.sourceforge.net
    Subject: [Bastille-linux-discuss] Available...


    Normally, I don't use this as an announcement board, but times are tough...

    I wanted to let everyone know that I'm becoming available for hire, as a number of people on this list have, as a result of some financial issues at MandrakeSoft that have a lot to do with the poor retail and financial markets.

    I'm trying to find consulting work, though I'm open to full-time employment if it's a good match.

    With that said, here are a couple good links:

    My consulting practice:http://www.bastille-linux.org/jay/consult ing/

    My security articles: http://www.bastille-linux.org/jay/consulting/secur ity-articles-jjb.html

    - Jay Beale
    Lead Developer, Bastille Linux
    soon-to-be-ex-Security Team Director, MandrakeSoft
    --
    Go not unto/. for advice, for you will be told both yea and nay (but have nothing to do with the question)
  7. Re:Is this related to the poor reviews by Unknown+Bovine+Group · · Score: 5, Funny
    For those who don't know adequacy is a humorous, sarcastic site and the Mandrake "review" seems to be an in-depth attempt at satire. However from the discussion underneath I think many people missed that. Some of the better part of the review:

    the release of Linux Mandrake 8.1, aggressively timed to coincide with that of Microsoft's much vaunted Windows XP, marks the start of the final battle for domination of the computer industry.

    The Linux operating system was born in 1991 and was created by one man, a Finnish student coincidentally named Linux Torvalds.

    Previous versions of Linux have been named Red Hat, Slack Ware, Storm and Coral. In stark contrast to the mundane names such as 98, ME or NT preferred by Microsoft, the crazy names of each Linux release hint at its renegade nature.

    why isn't the industry standard web browser, Internet Explorer, included with Linux? Despite the best efforts of the experts at the Internet Engineering Task Force to encourage adoption of the Internet Explorer standard, the creators of Linux seem to think that they know better.

    But here's the dead giveaway:
    Computer security is also an area that seems to have been overlooked by the developers of Linux. In these times when hacking and viruses are commonplace, it defies belief to learn that no anti-virus software is available for Linux. To add insult to injury, there is no Linux version of the popular ZoneAlarm firewall. By using Linux, you are issuing an open invitation to the hordes of ne'er-do-wells on the Internet.

    The shortcomings of Linux are obvious. Without even installing Linux Mandrake, I have exposed several fundamental flaws.

    As with most Satire, the danger lies in the unwashed masses taking it literally...

    --
    m00.
  8. Re:Slow and expensive? by JM · · Score: 4, Insightful
    It *is* slow, believe me


    1) Get quotes and find the right supplier

    2) Fill in the credit application form

    3) Hit voicemail

    4) Get the iso images burned on a CD-R and tested on a few machines to make sure the media is OK

    5) Get the artwork in a format that's readable by the film-maker (sorry, gotta use QuarkXpress)

    6) Get the artwork to a print bureau and check the output for any errors

    7) Get the address where to send all the materials

    8) Send them

    9) Make sure all they received is okay

    10) Hit the voice mail

    11) It's weekend, so it will have to wait until monday

    12) The CD plant received all the documents

    13) They make the film for printing

    14) They fax you a copy

    15) You approve the copy and send it back

    16) They call to ask it you want a white background or leave it silvery. They hit your voicemail

    17) You call them back and tell them to leave it silvery

    18) They start manufacturing

    19) A couple of days later, your CDs are ready, they ship it to you via UPS/Fedex/Whatever

    20) You receive them in your warehouse and have to ship thousands of CDs one-by-one

  9. Re:wal-mart shelves? by Doc+Hopper · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Just so you know, there is a pretty significant difference between versions of packages marketed by Mandrake. The "download edition" doesn't nearly include all the software, or even quite the same install, as the commercial versions, which bundle Star Office, Real Player, and a host of other useful, but non-free, applications.

    I highly recommend buying an off-the-shelf version and comparing it to the version you downloaded. It's rather enlightening, and it's tough to go back to the "download edition" afterward.