it *bugs* me that you have to download all sorts of extra libraries just to get the fscking thing to work...why can't it just be one download and install with the favorite package mode of your choice --./config|make|make install, rpm, or dpkg?
I think I'll stick with sylpheed...
Re:KDE vs Gnome vs The rest of the Window Managers
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I'll give you this...KDE, WindowMaker, Afterstep, and even XFce are smoother and more stable for the most part, than Gnome has been for me. I run WindowMaker and XFce primarily, because I like the fact that they don't look like windoze.
Given the choice, I'd rather use the Gnome Panel than KDE...because although it might have to mount in a corner, it can be made to sit only in the corner. KDE's main toolbar/taskbar/panel always takes up the entire edge you place it on. If they could make it sit in a corner, then perhaps I'd look at it.
I came to linux because I don't like windows - how it looks, how it works (or doesn't). Why would I want a GUI that still looks like it?
http://www.xfce.org/
Small, fast, lightweight desktop environment
Get yours now;)
As pointed out...this was an accident. It was something that could have been avoided if the Chinese fighter plane had not come crowding into a propeller-driven aircraft. Regardless of whether the P-3 "shifted direction radically and rapidly" or not, the smaller, faster, and more maneuverable fighter plane was in the wrong -- he was dangerously close to a larger, less maneuverable plane, and because of the Chinese pilot's actions, he was too close, got caught by the propeller, and crashed...now lost and presumed dead.
Granted, with the other international incidents the US has been involved in -- the Japanese trawler, and the bunker -- we are not being viewed in the best light. However, this incident with the Chinese could have been avoided if their pilot had not been such a "hot dog" and flown too close.
Our plane was over international waters, and was doing it's standard Reconnaisance mission -- this wasn't like the old U-2, or the SR-71 missions. The Chinese were in the wrong here, and if anyone should be apologizing, it should be them.
Yes, the loss of any life, regardless of nationality, is bad. For that, I would say the family of that pilot deserve something -- he did lose his life in service to his country. But it is the Chinese that need to take care of their own, and they need to release the American crew and their plane, suck it all up, and move on.
Northpoint is supposed to be providing the backbone work for my connection with the local company. This will only be an iDSL link, as I am so far from the central office.
Seems like everyone is reporting similar problems of delays and what-not...I ordered my line the beginning of August, before the Verizon strike, and was told 3-6 weeks lead time...it is now 8 weeks, and I am expecting the Northpoint tech to do the ground work next week.
...of course, I'm not holding my breath, either.
I figure the installation of DSL or cable modem requires patience and tenacity. Keep on top of what is going on, and you will get what you ordered. As long as they infrastructure is there, at least (Comcast has gone from telling me six months, to two weeks, to six months, all within a two-week period...figure the odds of me getting cable any time soon).
AFAIK, CDE is just the "icing" to the X-Windows GUI one uses. From the looks of things in my corner of the world, KDE and Qt seem to be running with the idea of professionalism and commercialism - they are gearing towards office application. GTK and Gnome seem to be following the open-source movement (and "hackers" environment) and seems to be slightly favored there.
I for one am new to Linux, have seen a few HP-UX environments which use CDE, and like the looks of CDE. There is a viable "Look-alike" solution, which (again, afaik) is much easier from the user's standpoint to configure. That is the XFce Desktop Environment - take a look at www.xfce.org
Which one is better? Isn't that like asking which linux distribution is better? Both fill a niche; why worry about who is better?
"I only showed you the door...you're the one that tripped and fell through the plate glass..."
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.. so I shouldn't have shaved my head after all?
oh no.. not petahertz... then we'll have those animal rights crazies demanding we let it go..
There is always the availability of CDs via Cheap*Bytes
All three CDs (two install and the supplemental) including shipping for $10 US
it *bugs* me that you have to download all sorts of extra libraries just to get the fscking thing to work...why can't it just be one download and install with the favorite package mode of your choice -- ./config|make|make install, rpm, or dpkg?
I think I'll stick with sylpheed...
I'll give you this...KDE, WindowMaker, Afterstep, and even XFce are smoother and more stable for the most part, than Gnome has been for me. I run WindowMaker and XFce primarily, because I like the fact that they don't look like windoze.
;)
Given the choice, I'd rather use the Gnome Panel than KDE...because although it might have to mount in a corner, it can be made to sit only in the corner. KDE's main toolbar/taskbar/panel always takes up the entire edge you place it on. If they could make it sit in a corner, then perhaps I'd look at it.
I came to linux because I don't like windows - how it looks, how it works (or doesn't). Why would I want a GUI that still looks like it?
http://www.xfce.org/
Small, fast, lightweight desktop environment
Get yours now
As pointed out...this was an accident. It was something that could have been avoided if the Chinese fighter plane had not come crowding into a propeller-driven aircraft. Regardless of whether the P-3 "shifted direction radically and rapidly" or not, the smaller, faster, and more maneuverable fighter plane was in the wrong -- he was dangerously close to a larger, less maneuverable plane, and because of the Chinese pilot's actions, he was too close, got caught by the propeller, and crashed...now lost and presumed dead.
Granted, with the other international incidents the US has been involved in -- the Japanese trawler, and the bunker -- we are not being viewed in the best light. However, this incident with the Chinese could have been avoided if their pilot had not been such a "hot dog" and flown too close.
Our plane was over international waters, and was doing it's standard Reconnaisance mission -- this wasn't like the old U-2, or the SR-71 missions. The Chinese were in the wrong here, and if anyone should be apologizing, it should be them.
Yes, the loss of any life, regardless of nationality, is bad. For that, I would say the family of that pilot deserve something -- he did lose his life in service to his country. But it is the Chinese that need to take care of their own, and they need to release the American crew and their plane, suck it all up, and move on.
~RM1/ss USN(r)~
Northpoint is supposed to be providing the backbone work for my connection with the local company. This will only be an iDSL link, as I am so far from the central office.
Seems like everyone is reporting similar problems of delays and what-not...I ordered my line the beginning of August, before the Verizon strike, and was told 3-6 weeks lead time...it is now 8 weeks, and I am expecting the Northpoint tech to do the ground work next week.
...of course, I'm not holding my breath, either.
I figure the installation of DSL or cable modem requires patience and tenacity. Keep on top of what is going on, and you will get what you ordered. As long as they infrastructure is there, at least (Comcast has gone from telling me six months, to two weeks, to six months, all within a two-week period...figure the odds of me getting cable any time soon).
G`//
If given the option of buying two programs, one with full documentation, and one with minimal (or none), I'll go for the books whenever I can...
as many have said, having something to reference, away from a computer, makes a big difference.
AFAIK, CDE is just the "icing" to the X-Windows GUI one uses. From the looks of things in my corner of the world, KDE and Qt seem to be running with the idea of professionalism and commercialism - they are gearing towards office application. GTK and Gnome seem to be following the open-source movement (and "hackers" environment) and seems to be slightly favored there.
I for one am new to Linux, have seen a few HP-UX environments which use CDE, and like the looks of CDE. There is a viable "Look-alike" solution, which (again, afaik) is much easier from the user's standpoint to configure. That is the XFce Desktop Environment - take a look at www.xfce.org
Which one is better? Isn't that like asking which linux distribution is better? Both fill a niche; why worry about who is better?
"I only showed you the door...you're the one that tripped and fell through the plate glass..."