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Senate Trashes Civil Liberties; House to Vote Today

The U.S. Senate passed its version of the "anti-terrorism" legislation last night. The Washington Post, CNN, and Wired all have stories. There are terrorists under every rock, and we must destroy our freedom in order to save it. Remember: gamblers are terrorists too. The House is apparently going to drop their version of the legislation and vote on a copy of the Senate bill.

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  1. Sooo happy I live i nEurope by selderrr · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    an not in the US..

    or afghanistan for another matter...

  2. Living in NYC, take my rights I don't care! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    Hey complain all you want. I am in NYC right now pretty much shitting myself while reading about how Anthrax works.

    It has been just about a month since I watched the first world trade center building collapse from the roof at work in midtown Manhattan. I have gone to two funerals for friends and family killed in this attack. I go through one of the largest commuting hubs in NYC every day, Penn Station, which is crawling with unarmed National Guardsmen.

    Right now and forever on I have no problem allowing the government to track everything I do and who I do it with. I have no feeling of security in anything I do anymore, I don't care if our own government is watching me every minute as long as I don't have to spend another hour trying to find out when my doctor can take a blood sample for Anthrax testing today and even if he does take it if the result would even come back in time to do anything about it.

    The rights that they are taking away are important and signifigant but if it allows terrorism to take place I must put my trust in the government because they are all I have right now. The government may be taking advatage of our rights, but the terrorists are taking advantage of our lives.

    I plan on joining the thousands of others in this city by quiting my job and getting the hell out of dodge for a while; Mom, Dad, Sis I'm coming home! I wish it never came to this.

  3. Re:The lone cowboy... by NineNine · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    Wow. You are truly stupid. They want to stop people from killing innocent Americans, you stupid sack of shit.

  4. Fuck you, Michael by Reality+Master+101 · · Score: 1, Flamebait

    Senate Trashes Civil Liberties; House to Vote Today

    Only one -- ONE -- senator voted against. Maybe it's not as bad as you think?

    When I see bullshit inflammitory headlines like this, it makes me sick. Sick that someone is so stupid that they just assume that ANY legislation that expands the power and ability of the FBI is automatically bad. Sick that they can't actually identify what's wrong with the legislation.

    And sick that he is using the same tactics that he accuses others of using: Using flaming rhetoric rather than facts to scare people into going along with him.

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  5. Hacker vs. Cracker = high school mentality by TheMonkeyDepartment · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    Oh my fucking god. If I hear one more person complain about the misuse of the term "hacker" vs "cracker" I'm going to scream.

    This argument is essentially the same as hearing a high school kid tell you "I'm not a skater, I'm a stoner." It's just a matter of semantics, and one that most people don't really care about anyway.

    To most people, the word "hacker" denotes illegal activity. OK? You can argue all you want about what label gets slapped on you. But most people in the country hear "hacker", they think of some fat white guy trying to do illegal shit with a computer. IT IS TIME TO ACCEPT THIS AND MOVE ON TO MORE IMPORTANT BATTLES.

    If you are fighting a battle to educate the world that "hackers" are harmless and "crackers" are evil, you are wasting your time on a meaningless fight. To most people, it's the exact difference between "trekkers" and "trekkies" -- who gives a fuck? Just stay out of computers that don't belong to you.

    There are more important things going on right now, people. Don't rehash this whole stupid "i'm a hacker, he's a cracker" argument. Give that one up. Focus on the important shit. And believe me, there's plenty of important shit.

  6. Re:Now enhance H1B program, too... by codepunk · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    Better yet send all of their sorry asses back home. H1B holders are the parasite of the US IT work force. We have citizens out of jobs and they keep bringing in more and more of these low skilled half assed programmers.

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  7. Re:Online Petition by Rombuu · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    I will be interested to see if you still feel the same way when the next round of laws come, which will make it illegal to "Speak out against our government in times of crisis".


    Ah, the slippery slope argument. Usually pulled out then someone realizes they have a flawed position so they start throwing around "what if.." scenarios.

    If someone proposes such legislation, I would oppose it, but they haven't, so I don't.

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