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Stallman, Torvalds, Sakamura win Takeda Prize
hal_mit writes: "Richard Stallman, Linus Torvalds, and
Ken Sakamura have been jointly awarded the first annual
Takeda Foundation Prize, for "The origination and the advancement
of open development models for system software - open architecture,
free software and open source software". This is a major new recognition of the social value of free software and open source."
RMS should be pretty happy about this. Note that they listed him above Linus. That's Stallman/Torvalds.
Guess who's going to reject it because it's not called the GNU/Takeda Foundation prize!
Zed's dead baby. Zed's dead.
Is that the Takeda award is granted in 3 different areas.
Sakamura, Stallma, and Torvalds were granted the award in the "Social/Economic Well-Being" category. This means that an international group has recognized that Linux and GNU pose great advantages over the current system of closed/secret source.
Hopefully this recognition, and the 100 million yen prize will encourage further efforts to educate the masses.
Anyone know how much 100 million yen is in american dollars?
It is nice that there are concessions being made at this scale (such as these awards) that the open-source ideology definately has a place in a free-market world. Even nicer is that these awards do not seem to be tied to a singular (or multiple) corperate entity, unlike some other .com love-in awards and groups (like the webbies?)
I'm more interested in seeing who will be getting these awards 5 years from now, once all the really obvious open-source prophets, kings and queens have gotten their past-due.
"Old man yells at systemd"
Craig Mundie wins the CapitalGuy award for the most confusing contributions to the world of closed-source software. Mr. Mundie has generously made a grant to the Microsoft Foundation For Youth-Reeduction, his way of giving back to the loyal community that has honored him thusly.
Marc Andreesen was on the list of nominees this year, but seems to have mysteriously vanished to the Isle of AOL (believed to be located somewhere in the South Media Sea).
(disclaimer: it's supposed to be funny. please, no rotten eggs this time
I would like to introduce the MacGabhain Open Source Award. You may award it to anyone else you like, so long as you don't restrict them from awarding it to others. You may modify the award in any way you like, so long as that award may also be awarded by anyone else to anyone else. You must include the following statement in any issuance of this award:
This award is or includes the MacGabhain Open Source Award. You may grant this award, either in its current form or in any modified form, to anyone provided you allow them to grant this award to anyone else and you include this statement in any granting of the award.
823,000 USD at today's interbank rate, per Oanda.com. Not too shabby.
Was recently reading a biography of Enrico Fermi. The cash he received from the Nobel prize, plus the jewlery his wife was able to take with her to Sweden for the prize ceremony, allowed them to escape Italy to the US (his wife was Jewish).
sPh
GNU/Takeda? I couldn't care less.... :-)
Why is it so hot? Where am I going? What am I doing in this handbasket?
They chose the three biggest names in open source. Let's see, Alan Cox will win next year, then who is left? They really should have paced themselves, they ran out of the big names far too quickly!
From the first page on the article linked above:
Ken Sakamura is honored for developing and promoting the TRON open architecture, a real-time operating system specification for embedded systems.
Now aren't you embarrassed?
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Hey!
I hate to be a stick in the mud, but...
I *KNOW* these folks have done wonders for us and the industry, but what about Allen? My impression of the guy (only from reading online interviews and such) is that he's not the sort of bloke that would really even think of getting recognised like this (I could be VERY wrong, I don't know the guy). But to recognise Linus (I know, he greatly helped start all this stuff, please don't flame me for that), is really electing a Poster Child (as he has said Himself).
Sorry. I'm just helping vote for the Underdogs...
(Man, I'm losing mod points like crazy latley...)
I'm not a prophet or a stone-age man,
I'm just a mortal with potential of a super man.
Open source software
and open architecture
Win Takeda Prize
Timeo idiotikOS et dona ferentes
Stallman and Torvalds win an Open Source Prize? Shocking! Also in this issue of Duh:
Jim Henson posthumously awarded the Kermit the Frog Award for Puppetry
McDonalds awarded the Ray Crock award for tastiest burger joint with a Clown Themed Mascot
Bill Gates awarded the MCSE lobby's Man of the Millennium, Ballmer heartbroken
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developing and promoting the TRON open architecture
Neat! Does this mean I'll finally be able to get a lightcycle and one of those ass-kicking frisbees? Or is TRON not that far along? (I'd also like a Recognizer, BTW)
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Remember how, in Star Trek, it was/is the rule when citing history to give 3 sources: two of which you've heard of, and one which is apparently post 21st-century? You know, Kirk will talk about e.g. ``defenders of freedom like Thomas Jefferson, Abraham Lincoln, and Ankuba of Sirius 43.''
Meaning no disrespect to the fine work of any of the recipients of this generous prize, but...
You Takeda Prize.
\(^_^)/
/*drunk.. fix later*/
Now as for tech support, some AC below cried about tech guys giving bad support. That's not bad support. That's survival. After dealing with customers long enough, the problems are all the same, and the solution invariably simplifies. I used to bend over backwards and set up every goddamn dial-up/internet/email thing to make their point and click online experience easier, less intimidating and convenient. No more. I burnt out. Even windows is too hard for people to use. It's not bad support, it's tailoring the solution to the LCD. If you cant get your mail and haven't even bothered to try any other internet activity to isolate the cause yourslef, and call me within 2 seconds of arriving from your vacation and your mail flunks, then you all you wil get from me is a request to try agin and call back. /. -- discussion that evangelises Linux and discussion that disparages MS.
And I'm sorry you got modded as flamebait, apparently there are only two topics on
I would prefer to play Sysadmin on *nix, but I would loathe to do *nix helldesk for clueless lusers.
"This is a major new recognition of the social value of free software and open source."
I hadn't even heard of the Takeda Prize until this article. If someone like me, who it very up to date on technology doesn't have the slightest clue about what the Takeda Prize means, or what it would be for, how can you call it major recognition? If nobody knows about it, it isn't major. There aren't exactly a half-billion people rearranging their dinner schedules to catch the Takeda Prize.
Which leads me to another point; This is the first annual Takeda Prize. Again, I ask, how is this "major recognition"? This isn't the Nobel Prize, which is 100 years old and internationally recognized. This isn't even the Pulitzer Prize, which ANYONE can enter.
Yes, I realize that the Nobel Prize was once new, and it takes time. I just don't see it as major recognition.
BTW: I won this year's First Annual Nimrod Prize for Outstanding Slashdot Commentary. This is a major new recognition of the social value of LDOPA1's digital literature.
See my point?
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What a load of crap.
No, seriously.
Due to network effects, it's likely that there would be one or few dominant home operating systems anyway. But without monopolistic practices, they'd have to actually compete, instead of coasting.
Ben "You have your mind on computers, it seems."
they block every international site that's not english speaking. For example, .au .ca and .uk are permitted, but anything else - nope.
it is the military afterall, keep in mind not everything makes sense.
someone (an ac) posted the google cache link, so at least i'll be able to use that if int'l sites crop up.
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Speak for yourself. I was happily doing consulting working in 1992, and since then I have been doing nothing but computer jobs. Previous to that, however, I sold applications for the Apple ][ (an image editor named Digital Palette and a text editor named Ion (which had support for Epson print codes!)). That was well before Windows 95.
There was enough good stuff coming out so that, had Microsoft been absent, we would still be more or less in the same place we are now.
That really brought the PC to the home consumer, and the Internet to the masses.
Wow. You have no historical perspective (or you've been smoking MS Press Releases). Was Win95 your first OS? Did you miss the fact that the WinSock and Netscape programs that brought the Internet to that era's users was not part of Win95 (Know what Tucows stands for)? Hell, I was working in an ISP in 1995, and we put out tons of install disks loaded with 16 bit software.
it's my opinion.
It really sounds like the opinion of someone whose computer experience began fairly recently. That's no *bad*, just keep in mind that perspective on many of these "absolutes" and "beginnings" is important. I almost choked on coffee when someone first said in a meeting, "Well, as the old saying goes, nobody ever got fired for buying Microsoft". That dosen't mean it wasn't true - at the time. And the fact that it's been through iterations just indicates that there are iterations yet to come.
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"$30 for the One True Ring. $10 each additional ring!" -- JRR "Bob" Tolkien
Just curious, I've heard of TRON, but I don't what specific products actually use it. How many TRON-based Japanese products are in our homes right now?
Jason
hawk
University of Tokyo professor, who developed the TRON open architecture, a real-time operating system specification for embedded systems. TRON stands for The Real-time Operating system Nucleus. You may have know another version, ITRON, or Industrial TRON. Do a search on TRON and Sakamura and you'll find more info than you need.
Don't forget that Friday is Hawaiian shirt day.
Yeah, patting yourself on the back in the form of gratutious awards is a super nifty keen way to gain "respectability" when most people won't give you the "Time of Day" award.
I'm not ragging on open source it is just that touting Open Source awards given by Open Source people is like buying yourself a birthday present when no one cares enough to give you one. With all due respect, who outside the "Open Source World" gives a rat's shit?
Oh the sad irony that the figures are in format based upon a software patent. See the FSF's Why no GIFs? for details. As an aside there is an open source OS that supports the uITRON 3.0 API and POSIX -- RTEMS. Congratulations to all recipients. The projects are definitely worthy. --joel
Agreed! But it was only some 10 years later that Linus and the OSS crew brought operating systems to the masses. ;-)
Escher was the first MC and Giger invented the HR department.
From The Takeda Foundation: "Each award will be accompanied by a monetary prize of 100 million yen."
The XE.com Universal Currency Converter yields these figures:
This is $275,300 USD for each of the awardees.
"What I was trying to illustrate is that prior to the advent of one-stop easy access internet and email embodied by W95"
Obviously you haven't even seen Windows 95.
One-stop easy access internet and email? It had a basic TCP/IP implementation, a bunch of really basic tools that should go with that (like ping and traceroute) and really basic ftp & telnet clients (the latter features the worst VT102 emulation, ever). All that stuff was allready available before that from other vendors, and often came bundled with ISP connections, plus lots more.
For instance, it definitely did NOT have an email client, or anything of that sort. No NNTP, WAIS, WWW, heck, even gopher client. ISPs used to ship numerous disks to install all that stuff, just like they did with Windows 3.1 before.
And then "Microsoft Innovation" reared its ugly head of course, and here we are today, $DEITY bless them *cough*
Andrew Tridgell and the Samba Team.
;)
Bruce Perens (hey, I'm using Busybox a lot at the moment).
.. don't even get me started on the names behind such famous products as the *BSD's, Apache, KDE, Gnome, Postfix, GIMP...
(and no, it's not because I'm too lazy to STFW to find out who they actually are
Who's trolling? I am now convinced you haven't seen Windows 95. What you've probably have seen are OEM installs with extra software (ie Netscape, AOL, Eudora) or some of the service releases releases, that came way after the first one, late '96 - early '97.
Anyway, even assuming that the 'public' couldn't care less about most of what I said that Windows 95 lacked, you cannot call it a "one-stop easy access internet and email" OS, since it didn't have a bloody email client, or even a frigging web browser.