Mozilla 0.9.5

agotneja writes: "Check out mozilla.org for details :) Another fine (hopefully!) release." For whatever reason, 1.0 still seems really far off.

Comments

Re:Mozilla is the BEST browser!

[Mr Spot]

Its Debateable that IE is more stable, but Mozilla is faster.

But what use is a fast program if it isn't as stable as the program it is meant to replace? Don't get me worng, I use Mozilla too, but saying it's better because it is faster, even though it is less stable, is flawed logic to say the least.

Intergrate ICQ + AOL into mozilla ...

Mozilla's codebase is big enough already, adding features like these would simply be increasing the code's complexity while not being as well suited to the task as a dedicated program. This is also the basis of the Unix philosophy: make several programs to do one thing, and do it well, instead of one program to do everything and suck at them all. Add to that that you do not want your instant messaging programs to die when your browser does, and vice versa.

... pre caching of entire websites ...

This is a horrible thing to do! In essence, you would end up downloading countless megabytes of data that would never get read and cause needless congestion on the internet. Say you follow a link from an article: you may only end up going to one page in that site. But your browser has downloaded the whole thing, only to end up throwing it away. That would be extremely pointless and possibly perceived as rude by the operators of the server whose bandwidth you have just wasted. Also, broadband users wouldn't need to have pages pre-cached -- their connection is fast enough without the help of a web accelerator.

Not meaning to attack you personally, but I had to voice my opinion on some of your ideas, so don't get offended by what I say.

Rebuild for faster operation.

[Anonymous Coward]

The first thing you should do is pull down the source and reconfigure and build with --disable-debug "--enable-optimizations=-O4 -finline -fno-omit-frame-pointer -march=pentiumpro -mcpu=pentiumpro" in addition to what ever components you want.

You would n't believe how much more snappier it makes mozilla run, for example the java sdk framed docs index pages goes down from 2.5sec to 1.5sec's on my athlon 850.

Also add this line to your prefs.js file:

user_pref("nglayout.debug.disable_xul_cache", false);

This speeds up loading time by using the pre-compiled versions of the javascript controls.

Re:Link tag

[sharkey]

...better support for the tag

I think you left off the "B". Mozilla introduced the tag, IIRC, and has supported it for years.
From The Book of Mozilla, 12:10:

And the beast shall come forth surrounded by a roiling cloud of vengeance. The house of the unbelievers shall be razed and they shall be scorched to the earth. Their tags shall blink until the end of days.

Re:Are we the ugly stepchild?

[Gerv]

Seems like OS X is constantly a late release, if it gets released at all.

That's because there are about five people on the planet capable of building Mozilla for OS X, and they are all very busy :-) Part of the reason is that it requires an experimental, pre-release version of Apple's gcc-based compiler.

Gerv

Re:i don't really understand you

[Gerv]

Can't we geeks have at least ONE fucking browser for ourselves?

What you mean is: "Waah! Why won't someone write the browser _I_ want?"

You're a geek. Go do a Mozilla distribution for geeks. Add in all the patches like gestures and PGP. Do a new, cool skin. People will love it. That's what the code is for. mozilla.org wants to see that happen.

Or quit whining.

Gerv

Mail/News/Chat clients, better Java support

[jonabbey]

Mozilla is being built as a successor to Netscape Communicator, and so includes a bunch of tools to take advantage of a variety of open Internet standards, including POP,IMAP,NNTP,LDAP, and IRC. Mozilla also includes a web page editor (Composer) which can be used to create mail and news posts as well as web pages, if you're into that kinky HTML stuff. This makes Mozilla vulnerable to the (misleading) bloat charge, for those who don't like flexible tools, but it also gives you a one-stop tool that can take you all over USENET as well as the web.

One of the most important benefits that I can see on Windows is that Mozilla comes with support for using Sun's recent, vastly improved, Java VM's integrated into the browser. Yes, people can write HTML for Java applets that will work on IE and Netscape 4.x using the Java plug-in, but Mozilla automatically uses the Java plug-in for all Java code, with significant benefits in performance and stability. If you have any use for Java in your browser, Mozilla will support things better.

There's also things like themeing, the sidebar, the improved cookie management, and the lack of operating system exploits that IE and Outlook seem to continually fall prey to.

Re:grr spell check grrr

[Gerv]

Is it possible that they could make it all the way to 1.0 without a simple spell check feature?

Perfectly possible, and extremely likely.

surely there must be open source dictionaries they could implement?

Probably. The trick is finding someone to do the implementing.

Can't they use netscape 4.x's dictionary?

No. It's proprietary.

I'm too ashamed to recommend Mozilla to my friends

...because you know they can't spell?

Gerv