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Molecule Sized Transistors

IceFoot writes "Bell Labs announced it has created organic transistors with a single-molecule channel length, more than a factor of ten smaller than anything that has been demonstrated even with the most advanced lithography techniques. The really cool part is the transistors assemble themselves: the molecules do the work of finding the electrodes and attaching themselves. Webcast on Wednesday, October 17, 2001 at 3:00 p.m. Eastern time"

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  1. Step one accomplished... by InfinityWpi · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Now for step 2: Can we do this and make it cost-efficient?

    And Step 3: Can we make new things with this that we couldn't before, or will this just help us shrink down current things?

    And Step 4: How can this make us more money (only the salespeople worry about this one)?

    And don't forget Step 5: How can this get us laid (only the engineers typically worry about that one)?

  2. Mr. Moore by Mr.+Sketch · · Score: 3, Insightful

    So how do we get smaller than this? Smaller molecules? Atoms? Sub-atomic particles? Photons?

    It just seems like there is a finite limit to how small we can make these things, and it looks like we're approaching that limit, so where to next? Get rid of transistors all together and use a different method? Optical matricies that perform switching functions? Who knows, but I know I'm excited to find out what happens next.

  3. And what are the specs? by wowbagger · · Score: 5, Informative

    What is the transconductance? The maximum switching speed? The gain/bandwidth product? In short, where are all the specs on this transistor that a real engineer would need to evaluate it?

    I don't care if you can make a transistor with a gate length of .1 Planck length, if the thing only has gain below 1 Hz it won't be very useful.

    Until Bell releases some more data on how this device can perform, don't get too excited....

    1. Re:And what are the specs? by RestiffBard · · Score: 3, Funny

      buy a subscription to nature. I think they only cost a shitload.

      shitload n. more of a thing than i have at any one time

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    2. Re:And what are the specs? by bugg · · Score: 3, Informative
      I think he's not confusing organic molecule with cell, but rather organic molecule with protein.

      If you had a transistors that were proteins then yes, they could in theory be produced by a cell, i.e. the transistors would not have to be cellular for his dream to come true.

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  4. hot digiity by mjackso1 · · Score: 3, Funny

    Finally, a silver lining behind the huge cloud that is the ownership of Lucent stock...

  5. I saw the webcast by CmdrTroll · · Score: 5, Interesting
    My employer has a substantial stake in the chip business, and most of us from the Custom ASIC department huddled around a large monitor over lunch today to watch this. Their techniques are fascinating and may someday revolutionize the way we build circuits.

    However, the thing that they do not mention in the announcement is that Bell Labs continues to have problems with the chemical bonds between molecules decaying quickly on these transistors. It is similar to the problems that plague engineers of DNA processors, another cutting-edge-but-hopelessly-broken technology. In fact, despite all of these new achievements that promise to revolutionize the industry, silicon is still king and will be king for many years to come.

    -CT

  6. Where are have the good electrodes gone? by 12agnarok · · Score: 4, Funny

    The really cool part is the transistors assemble themselves: the molecules do the work of finding the electrodes and attaching themselves

    Great, now even my transistor will find a significant other before I do.

  7. Reliability by BlackGriffen · · Score: 4, Insightful

    With single molecule transistors, wouldn't there be reliability concerns? After all, the uncertainty principle could wreak havoc on a circuit that is too small. Both information processing and durability would be hampered.

    BlackGriffen

  8. Re:Old news by DahGhostfacedFiddlah · · Score: 3, Funny

    True. God did invent this - and it appears that IBM's closing the gap. A giant tower of technology reaching for the heavens with IBM at the peak. It's only a matter of time before programmers around the world are struck down with a curse of multiple languages and different protocols so that they will no longer be able to communi....aw crap.

  9. Organic transistors by sulli · · Score: 3, Funny

    So now there will be an "Organic" aisle at Fry's, with pretty green labels and much higher prices?

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    1. Re:Organic transistors by iforgotmyfirstlogon · · Score: 3, Funny

      I thought that was the "Macintosh" section...

      - Freed

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  10. Molecular Transistors have already been done by caesar-auf-nihil · · Score: 5, Informative

    While the work done at Bell labs does indeed look unique, this experiment and breakthrough has technically already been done by Prof. James Tour (at Rice University) and Prof. Mark Reid of Yale who, in a very high-tech experiment, showed that a single molecule can conduct. It was similar to the structure shown in the Bell labs work, except it was one benzene rather than two. Tour and Reid also used self-assembly to get the molecules to line up to check conductance. The work was published in Science in late 1999.
    Further, Tour and his group have synthesized molecular transistors (he calls them "Moleisters") about a year and a half ago. Unfortunately, I can't bring up his web pages to find the reference to the papers.

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  11. Shape of turn-on curve... by dpilot · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I wonder what the shape of the turn-on curve is like?

    Modern short-channel MOSFETs are an ungainly compromise between being on and off. We can manipulate the threshold voltage, but so far we can't change the shape of the turn-on (essentially the gain) curve very well. The practical upshot is that modern transistors are perched somewhere between leaking too much DC current and not being strong enough to drive signals with the strength we need.

    At the moment, there is no such thing as low-power, high-performance deep submicron logic. It's the nature of the transistor, not the clock speed.

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  12. We've got good news and bad news... by hoggoth · · Score: 4, Funny

    The good news:
    Bell Labs scientists Zhenan Bao and Hendrik Schon have fabricated molecular-scale organic transistors.

    The bad news:
    As you can see in the picture, they are REALLY BIG molecules!

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  13. Vague and Over-Hyped by DumbSwede · · Score: 3, Insightful
    Hopefully one day, one of these things will have the promised impact on computing, but like many promised breakthroughs, this report leaves many details vague.

    molecular-scale transistors that rival conventional silicon transistors in performance
    And rival here means what? Slower, but will become faster; Slower, but less power? Aren't we aiming for superior in all facets, not just size?

    factor of ten smaller...
    A Million Times Smaller Than a Grain of Sand

    In what dimensions? Width, Area, Volume? What are the actual dimensions, and not just the molecule switch, but the whole gate arrangement?

    A good switch perhaps, but it looks as though it is still hooked up to conventional circuitry, unless I'm reading there diagram incorrectly. This isn't so much nano-technology, as a nano-coating on existing technology. Self assembly doesn't impress me in a coating.

    Self-assemble the paths in and out of the circuit and then we'll talk.