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Microsoft: The Gatekeeper of the Internet

jeffy124 writes "C|net News.com is embarking on a seven day comprehensive report on how Microsoft is moving themselves into position to be The Gatekeeper Of The Internet through Windows XP. The first installment explains the basics of how this is going to happen: Reminders that last for days encouraging users to sign up for Passport, and how Windows will evenutally resemble services like AOL."

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  1. I want Microsoft to be the Gatekeepers! by Desus · · Score: 5, Funny

    I don't understand Slashdot. Not everything Microsoft does is evil. Hell, I want them to be the gatekeepers of the internet. I find that worrying about things like personal freedom, privacy, and security tax my little mind too much. So I'd rather have a corporation deal with that for me.

    Also, my mother still picks out my clothing for me. Decisions like this worry me so much.

  2. Patience is a Virtue by Kletus+Cassidy · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Wouldn't it have made more sense for Slashdot to wait for the entire 7 day series to be written and link to it all than to link to the first two articles? What's going to happen now, is Slashdot going to provide a link to each installment daily or revisit the story in a week when all 7 articles have been printed?

    BEST QUOTE FROM THE ARTICLE "If successful, Microsoft could challenge AOL Time Warner and other media giants for control of the Internet and entirely new industries"

    Basically, C|Net is admitting that AOL already practically owns the Internet and Micro$oft is trying to give them a run for their money. I usually don't support Micro$oft but I'd rather there was some competition to AOL's increasingly massive control of how, where and when most people access the 'net and what they see.

    1. Re:Patience is a Virtue by pubjames · · Score: 5, Insightful

      C|Net is admitting that AOL already practically owns the Internet

      Not from where I'm sitting. AOL may be popular in the USA, but in the rest of the world very few people use it to access the 'net. And the rest of the world is quite a big place, you know.

  3. Microsoft as Corp. vs. Microsoft as Tech. by under_score · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Microsoft is in a funny position. Many of the things they do (not all) have a solid basis in user needs or wants. Honestly, I would be/is a lot simpler to have the internet and all its related services (web, mail, chat, identification etc.) integrated seamlessly into the OS so that any application can easily access those services. That's the tech side of Microsoft: they are doing some good. BUT As most people here would agree, their business practices range from sucking to disasterous. Basically, this dichotomy boils down to the issue of "does the end justify the means?" Most people do not think so, and our legal code is set up that way. In fact, if you really get down to it, most of our society is based on the idea that the means justify the end. (That is a whole other discussion...) Microsoft being a gatekeeper to the internet is both a business decision and a technical decision. For many people, it is a way to provide useful services for their operating system and applications. Therefore people will buy it, corporations will buy it (not all of course). But as time goes on, there will be more and more pressure on Microsoft from a legal perspective... because undoubtably, they will not clean up their act on the "means" side of things.

  4. Good - Let them go! by wirefarm · · Score: 5, Funny

    By ensuring a Windows-only "internet" they are granting freedom to Linux users and people saavy enough not to play along...
    I was happy enough with the BBS culture of 10 - 15 years ago - I will be happy to see all of those morons gone. If you can't figure out that you don't need Windows, I'm not sure that I want to know you...
    Good riddance to them - For a while, it was as if the football team had joined the A/V club and now they're being shepherded out of the room - let them go... Maybe I'll get less spam and fewer Code Red attacks...

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  5. Quote of the Day (scary!) by Masem · · Score: 5, Insightful
    "This whole thing is driven by the fact that Microsoft has hundreds of millions of Windows users out there, but Microsoft doesn't have a direct monthly billing relationship with those users," said Matt Rosoff, an analyst at Directions on Microsoft.
    (My emphasis).

    That word, right there, scares the bejeebies out of me.

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    1. Re:Quote of the Day (scary!) by Neon+Spiral+Injector · · Score: 5, Funny

      Well not everyone has a fear of relationships, its the month billing part that I don't like. :)

    2. Re:Quote of the Day (scary!) by Masem · · Score: 5, Informative
      Renting whatever is always a lose-win situation for the customer and the renter, respectively, particularly in the long run (more than 3-5 years)

      • Apartment renting: Typically, if you frequently move large distances, renting is ok, but if you are fixed at a certain location in the country, you can usually get house payments + utilities + properties taxes well under the monthly rent for property in the same area. In addition, you lose the ability to play with equity on your home, which can be a valuable source of funding for emergancies
      • Car Leasing: Again, a loser for the rentee: while the monthly lease payments might be lower than for a new car, you have more liability for your car if it's in an accident, and typically more for insurance in some areas. And again, you lose the money that you can get from a reselling of the car in the future.
      • Software renting: Particularly in the case of Microsoft, you must continue to rent the software in order to continue being 'compatiable' with everyone else, so while the cost to rent software might be less than purchasing it on a 2-3 year time scale, you must consider the 5-10 year time scale for mission critical software in order to keep up.
      The overall problem with renting software is that renting is just one step away from pay-per-play, which Microsoft has subtly indicated that they wouldn't mind that, and in the opposite direction of the principle of first sale. Just like we are discussing how slowly eroding civil librities is more likely to be accepted by citizens than a swift removal of them, removing the buyer's rights from software by going to seat-licenses, then renting, then pay-per-use will be more of an accepted transition if it is done slowly.

      In addition, while I am a linux user, I want my games, and I want them at the same time as most of the rest of the world enjoys them as opposed to months later. While the catch-22 syndrome of linux games has been discussed before, I don't think that will be resolved until the linux desktop is more fully realized. Thus, until that happens, I will continue to have a Windows box to play games on as well as most of my web browsing with a non-MS browser. However, while for the immediate future, I expect Win98 to be sufficient, with all modern hardware and games continue to provide support for it, once MS decides that the latest version of DirectX will only run under XP or higher, I will need to consider upgrading (I'm considering it right now, given the know improvements in stability between XP and 98). I know XP will remain a single-cost purchase, but what happens when the next step comes along? I would suspect that most causal computer users are in the same boat as me in their feelings to software renting vs purchasing.

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  6. It's All About The Average User by Self+Bias+Resistor · · Score: 5, Informative

    The point is not that the technically adept will possibly somehow be denied access to the Internet (which wouldn't happen for a whole slew of technical reasons), but that Micrsoft will get an unfair headstart on those who aren't technically minded. Your 'average user' may not know that you don't need Passport to use the Internet under Windows XP. But if he/she gets constant reminder messages for days suggesting to them that they get a Passport account, then they may start thinking "if I don't get a Passport account, I may be missing out on something (ie. may not be getting the "best" services)". Especially if, as the article suggests Microsoft might starting including "features" in XP that may only be accessed with a Passport account. Those who know enough about computers will know how to set up their systems under XP using their own software and Internet access. But it's the 'average user', who doesn't know these things, that it's going to most affect.

    In this case, education will the key. If people know that they can use XP just fine without a Passport account, then they may be less likely to sign up for one in future (hey, it's yet one more password to memorise). That is, unless MS doesn't in future require users to have such accounts to use key features of the operating system. It's bad enough that it's compulsory to register your copy of Windows XP (otherwise it stops functioning). To say nothing of the fact that even in the face of an (once) impending antitrust suit by the Department of Justice, MS are continuing to "bundle" products and services to their operating systems more tightly than ever.

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  7. Re:does not apply.. by Junks+Jerzey · · Score: 5, Insightful

    xcuse me, but how does this apply to those of us who don't use windows? are we going to be pushed off of the 'net?

    To some extent we already have been. If I made my machine at home boot directly into the Linux partition, my wife would kill me. Not because she cares about operating systems, but because there are a good many mail order sites that do things that either don't work without Internet Explorer (I'm thinking of ActiveX scripting and such) or don't render properly under Mozilla, because the web designers didn't care.

    Sure, this is the fault of the companies that design sites like this. But when 95% of all online purchases are made from Windows machines, then from a business point of view it doesn't make sense to worry about the other 1%. How many Linux users are going to buy clothes from L.L. Bean or Chadwick's?

  8. MS as gatekeeper... scary... by Diabolical · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I wouldn't mind Microsoft resembling AOL. It's their right to try and do so. But the big difference with AOL is that with AOL i at least have a choice in signing up.

    MS provides an operating system. Fine. MS provides technology for the internet. Reasonable... better than loose products like in the 3.x days. (trumpet winsock etc..). MS providing security. Bad. Given their trackrecord it would be an outright disaster. MS providing content (MSN). Evil. I want to be able to view any kind of content. Not MS controlled. Who is to say that when MS gets a big stranglehold on the Net they won't start censoring content provided by others. If MS doesn't want people to find out about bugs they just block the sites that provide such information.

    Basicly MS tries to not only control the Internet on a technologie side. They can (and most likeliy will) also try to control the content. Power corrupts.. whatever kind of power it is.

    And when i have almost no control on which provider or technology i want...

    Joe Sixpack will probably just click on the yes button, not knowing they give away their freedom and privacy.

  9. Boy, I hope the DOJ is reading this.... by n8willis · · Score: 5, Informative
    Is anyone else amused that the Justice Department has a separate contact address just for people who want to complain about Microsoft?

    Nate

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  10. At least the commercials will improve by roystgnr · · Score: 5, Funny

    I'm sick and tired of "Where do you want to go today?" It'll be sweet when they replace that:

    Bill Gates, uncombed and speaking an octave below his normal voice: "Are you the keymaster?"

  11. Re:does not apply.. by streetlawyer · · Score: 5, Insightful
    or don't render properly under Mozilla, because the web designers didn't care.

    Or alternatively, because the Mozilla developers don't care.

  12. Hey Big Brother, Thanks for the help! by AmbientBlue · · Score: 5, Informative

    So I tried using Windows XP a little a few weeks ago.. I quickly went back to, umm, er, '98 after experiencing DNS trouble with my ISP while using it..

    But in the day or two of using it I had an application error spawn a process that sent system information INCLUDING personal information like REGISTRATION and whatever NAME you had in the appropriate field. I didnt even have a choice! Well -- you have a choice if you are at the machine when the error occurs. After a minute or so it sends it anyway.

    It would be cool if I got a call from a tech support expert with an automatically open trouble ticket, but no.. That isnt what its for.. Its for taking personal information, matching it with your network location, and using it to whatever purpose they desire.

    Pretty F***ing sneaky.

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  13. The writing's on the wall for Microsoft by pubjames · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I have a mental image of Microsoft as a huge giant, running ahead of the IT pack at top speed. It's moving faster than ever before and most people think it is still easily winning the race. "Look, it's going faster and faster!" But what they don't notice is that it is stumbling forward, waving it's arms trying to stay stable, and at any moment could fall flat on its face.

    I predict this will happen within about three years, perhaps even sooner. Remember when IBM stumbled, in about 1993? Well, when Microsoft does it, it's gonna be a whole lot worse. The reasons are simple. The majority of its profits come from basically two product lines - its operating systems and its office suite. Both of these are under threat from free products. Sure, they're not as good as Microsoft products, yet. But they're improving at an increadible rate - anyone who has assessed Linux for desktop use a couple of years ago, and has done the same recently, will agree with that. One day soon its going to be really hard for a CTO of a small or medium sized company to justify buying Microsoft rather than using a free, similar product.

    People say Microsoft's .NET strategy is complex. Technically it might be, but strategicly it's not. The strategy is simple - try to get as much customer 'lock-in' as possible as quickly as possible. To do this, they need to get everyone moving to XP as soon as they can - which I believe is one of the main reasons they've changed their licensing model. Companies that update their software only every three or four years - for instance, companies using Windows 2000 but probably won't do a complete update until 2003 or 2004 - are customers that Microsoft might loose unless they get them locked-in before then.

    One of the biggest mistakes that Microsoft has made recently is to make their software more expensive for exactly those businesses they need to get on board quickest - the companies that only upgrade every three to four years. It's exactly those customers that are most likely to move to Linux, and Microsoft has just given them much more motivation to do so. And when they start to move, the development momentum of Linux will increase even more, and larger enterprises won't be far behind. This process is I believe probably more noticable in 'the rest of the world' before it becomes very evident in the USA.

    Microsoft is in many ways a pre-Internet company. The internet has caused changes to the way software is developed and distributed. There is nothing Microsoft can do about this. It's demise is inevitable, the only question is when.

  14. Re:does not apply.. by GlassUser · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Code to standard, not to browser. If it doesn't display, it's the browser's fault.