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Tech Toys Become Modern Instruments

Anonymous Coward writes: "A classmate of mine is making analog instruments out of, and/or interactive mods to tech toys and voiceboxes. Check them out at carrionsound.com I'm not sure this site could survive even a slight slashdotting, which is why I may not have found it in the archives." Well, there's only one way to find out. We'll try the "early morning" timeframe and see if it survives.

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  1. Skip the splash page? by mosschops · · Score: 2, Informative

    Perhaps it'd be a little better to change the main story link to:

    http://www.carrionsound.com/menu.htm

    as that'd mean everyone isn't loading the 40K image on the homepage, and goes straight to the text menu page. It might give the poor server a fighting chance!

    1. Re:Skip the splash page? by GlassUser · · Score: 2
  2. and Mozilla.. by CptnHarlock · · Score: 2

    you forgot the beast.. 5, 4 ,3, 2 ,1 .... Hmm it's dead.. :) .. the guy was asking for it..

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  3. Google Cache? by heliocentric · · Score: 3, Informative

    If the site has a problem serving up content (and I sure see that it does) why not link to the Google Cache instead? Ok, so maybe the links on the cache don't like back to the cache, but you don't have to work too hard to get the links added to the URL.

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  4. Re:Slashdotted? Perhaps... by CarrotLord · · Score: 2

    It's about half-past 5 in the afternoon here... Remember that the US /= the world... Seems to be a problem that you yanks have...

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  5. Re:Slashdotted? Perhaps... by sfe_software · · Score: 2

    I think the point is more about average traffic patterns for Slashdot...

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  6. Analog is cool by Dr.+Tom · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Any EE will tell you that analog electronics is basically black magic. Any idiot can do digital electronics but it takes real skill and understanding to do anything analog. Furthermore analog is far more powerful than digital -- in terms of speed and complexity of the computations possible (if not accuracy). But it's harder to control and more difficult to understand. Analog synth is an amazing area and this guy's a real wizard. Some of the posters here will complain that this guy's site is lame because they have NO IDEA what's involved. This is a true melding of Art and Science, not simple hackery.

    And before any strong AI freaks slap the Church-Turing hypothesis in my face remember that analog circuits (through non-linearities) have sensitive dependence on initial conditions and are basically computationally irreducible. Sure, you can simulate digitally to any desired degree of accuracy blah blah, but while your simulation is clunking out two milliseconds worth of output the analog synth has been going in real time for an hour. I call that *effective*.

    1. Re:Analog is cool by torpor · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Absolutes are unobtainable...

      Which is why I'll respond to:

      Any idiot can do digital electronics but it takes real skill and understanding to do anything analog.

      ... with the statement: Even better, is doing digital work that is indistinguishable from analog work, to the point that A/B comparisons produce 50/50 results.

      As a new member of one of the leading Virtual Analog synthesizer development teams, I can tell you this:

      These are very exciting times.

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    2. Re:Analog is cool by devnullkac · · Score: 2

      Or maybe he's just really good with Photoshop :-)

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    3. Re:Analog is cool by tdrury · · Score: 2

      Black magic is reserved for those fields you know nothing or only a little about. Analog is pretty simple to me. Digital is pretty simple also. But trying to do analog functions with digital (aka: DSP - digital signal processing) is black magic. Which is why I'm trying to re-learn the stuff. I didn't pay enough attention when I took those classes. Which is a shame since I had two of the profs most noted in the field: Dr. Ronald Shafer and Dr. Jim McClellan (of Parks-McClellan fame).

      -tim

  7. Mirror as it becomes available... by pen · · Score: 3, Informative
  8. ssssslow by Alien54 · · Score: 2
    which is a pity.

    download speeds at low modem speeds, even on a dsl line.

    This at 4 am east coast us time. Too bad he didn't mirror it someplace like geocites or some such other free site with bandwidth.

    while you are waiting for that to load, check this out:

    In other news, Satire wire is reporting that the Anti Terrorist bill just passed will require people to install Windows XP

    Totally off topic, but just as weird.

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  9. Re:Slashdotted? Perhaps... by tdye · · Score: 2

    Yeah, the background tiles look nice. It's 9:40 GMT here and I've been waiting for 10 minutes so far... say, isn't that a section from Peter Bruegel's The Triumph of Death?

    Poor ickle server, just can't handle the pressure...

  10. Gee.... by rant-mode-on · · Score: 2, Funny

    Slashdotted already.... could that possibly mean that there is life outside of the USA?

  11. Scientific Experimentation by joenobody · · Score: 3, Funny

    The hypothesis: I'm not sure this site could survive even a slight slashdotting, which is why I may not have found it in the archives

    The test:We'll try the "early morning" timeframe and see if it survives.

    The result: hypothesis proved

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  12. Scientific Experimentation by joenobody · · Score: 2

    The hypothesis: I'm not sure this site could survive even a slight slashdotting, which is why I may not have found it in the archives

    The test:We'll try the "early morning" timeframe and see if it survives.

    The result: hypothesis proved

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  13. Re:Slashdotted? Perhaps... by tdye · · Score: 2

    True! Perhaps I should have clarified... UK and Ireland live on GMT, as opposed to the rest of the world, which operates offset in some way.

  14. More cool synth stuff - download sites. by Anton+Anatopopov · · Score: 2, Informative
    An interesting couple of sites for analog music fans are propellerhead software (You MUST download the Reason demo - it has to be seen to be believed) and also Jeskola Buzz its a kind of wierdo build your own synth kit.

    Buzz is free (as in beer) and Reason is free (as in it doesn't have full functionality) both downloads are well worth the time.

  15. Do it yourself Gesture Research by beanerspace · · Score: 3, Informative

    If you look hard enough, and know where to look, one can find an amazing set of "toys" that could be easily modified and/or mass-produced into something useful.

    One such page I visited described research in the field of gesture capture, interfaces, and applications to sound synthesis and performance. Yes, it's for music & peformance now, but could be used for communications either by handicapped, or by individuals and situations where the human and/or NON-human voice is muted.

    Vocoders are another set of techologies I personally find interesting. Here is a page that offers schematics on how to roll-your-own speach synths, text-to-speech and other goodies ... including do-it-yourself for some rather old computers.

    Here's something for you young sprites trying to fake out mom so she thinks your practicing your paino. But remember, you're only cheating yourself !

    Of course, you hardwire geeks already know about this one ... PAiA Electronics ... offering user assembled kits for all sorts of electronic products for hobbyists, musicians, education.

    Of course, having cut my teeth in electronic music back in the late 70's, in an old analog studio, we saw all sorts of home brewed devices our mad PhD professor put together. From a rubber-band articulator (a record tone arm nailed to a board with a rubber-band and nails to change pitch) to using two tape recorders to get true double-deck dealay (the more nails, the bigger the delay !-). Here is a site that lists similar do it yourself projects.

    Toys ... yup ... but I suspect there is also utility for it all.

  16. Can the Aussies bring it down? by Dman33 · · Score: 3, Funny

    I guess as long as your gov't does not censor it first... ;)

  17. Easier path to DIY synths/effects by Tom7 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Circuit bending is fun. My bandmate and I used to do this back in high school.. we didn't know what were were doing really, but we got plenty of wacked out sounds.

    Nowadays we're a little more deliberate, so we make VST Plugins . The VST architecture is totally simple and pretty portable, so it's easy to crank out plugins if you have crazy effects in mind. This might be a good place to start if you know a little C programming and have some ideas.

  18. Mistah Kuhtz, he dead by jellybear · · Score: 2

    Man, that site has now been slashdotted to oblivion

  19. Circuitbending by uqbar · · Score: 4, Interesting
  20. Re:Analog Robotics by Tackhead · · Score: 2
    > Mark Tilden (the father of BEAM) and his robots have been featured in Discovery Channle programs.

    ...and Hasbro toys for this Christmas.

    My jaw dropped when I saw these things on TV and heard the word "nervous network". Very cool, for those who don't want to build their own.

  21. Ick by Kris_J · · Score: 2
    It's mildly interesting and all, but I can't believe this article was posted and my Cuttle Cart story wasn't. Maybe I'll be able to get it accepted when I can load Space Invaders from my Rio MP3 player onto it...

    I'd comment on this story if I could actually download a sample, but 46 minutes for 2.75MB is code for "This download will break in 3... 2... 1..."