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General Fan Performance Guide

Lars Olsen writes: "As a complementary article to his comprehensive General Heat Transfer Guide , Dave Smith has written another great article for Amdmb.com called General Fan Performance Guide. This is an indepth guide to the performance of the fans we have in our PC's. Here's a quote: 'The specific purpose of this guide is to take the science associated with fans and translate it into a meaningful document that will allow the reader to understand how fans work and how they apply to computers. It provides a brief summary of DC power and drives. It finishes with an introduction to the concepts of sound generation and measurement.'"

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  1. Heat Transfer Tip by jeeryg_flashaccess · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Change your thermal paste every now and then! Why do i say this? A K6 200 at work was blowing hot air...and freezing...The paste was hard as rock. I scraped it off and put new paste on. It blows cool air now, and runs better. BAM!

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    1. Re:Heat Transfer Tip by morcheeba · · Score: 3, Informative

      Actually, you want it to blow hot air! That's the heat from the chip... if it blows cold air, then the heat isn't making it to the heatsink and you've got a problem. [automotive parallel: if your heater doesn't blow hot air, then your cooling system isn't working; same situation]

      IIRC, AMD was recomending phase-change material instead of paste for just this reason. The paste works better... until it dries out. The phase-change material lasts longer. Just wondering... is it just me, or this the phase-change stuff seem like starburst candy? I removed my heatsinks and didn't want to reuse the p-c stuff, so I had to use paste. Could I have used a small slice of orange chew instead?

      Also, everyone else, when he says "freezing" he doesn't mean cold (like I originally thought), but locking up. Took me a few seconds to figure that out. BAM!

  2. Fan monitoring in Linux by CmdrTroll · · Score: 4, Informative
    For anyone out there (myself included) who got the hankering to monitor their CPU fan speeds under Linux, try out wmalms, a handy dock applet that reads the I2C bus and reports fan activity. It could save your CPU.

    -CT

  3. The most techno-geek of all fan articles is ... by jkorty · · Score: 3, Interesting
    The best fan article I've ever seen I ran across entirely by accident a year or so ago:

    COOLING FAN NOISE - SLEEVE BEARING VS. BALL BEARING.

  4. Just what Slashdot needs... by Black+Art · · Score: 3, Funny

    Another fan page.

    *rimshot*

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  5. Who needs a fan... by jpm242 · · Score: 3, Funny

    when you live in Quebec?

    Just put the computer in a garbage bag and throw it in the snow. Cheaper than any cooling setup. Need extra long cables though, and you may need to relocate while the show plow passes.

    Another alternative is using a shop-vac, which can be switched in blower mode. You can put the device in the garage, and using a few dozen feet of plastic tubing, you can route that cool air right to your CPU. Lots of cubic feet of fresh air per minute. A bit noisy, but, listen to this folks, it doubles as a vacuum cleaner! How cool (no pun intended) is this?

    Think different!

    J.

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  6. Re:Isn't this all kind of pointless? by Ryan_Amdmb · · Score: 4, Informative
    While the General Fan Guide is a solid piece of technical writing on its own, you may want to read the Guide to Heat Transfer that was also posted, as the two topics inter-mingle so much, it may make more sense to you.

    Yes, some of the information may be more technical than needed for everyday computer enthusiasts, but that doesn't mean others aren't curious or they can't find a use for the information and theory presented in both articles.

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    Ryan Shrout
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  7. Re:iMacs have no fan, Mac+ also silent, and Apple by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

    Your fireplace doesn't have a fan in the chimney to remove smoke either, but you don't often see people choking and running from their homes when they light a fire in one - unless they forget to open the flue or it gets blocked!

    Hot air rises. Cooler air will take its place. A properly constructed flue takes advantage of this fact and creates a highly effective air flow without needing mechanical devices, such as fans. This is how the iMac and the Cube work. They are engineered so that the heat from the processor is channeled in such a way to create the airflow needed to cool the processor.

    This "flue-effect" is combined with the design of the PowerPC processors. They are low-power consumption by nature and often use approximately 1/2 the power consumption of an equivalent mHz Pentium processor. Add to this the fact that they do run a much lower clock speed (clock speed has a lot to do with heat generation) than an equivalent computing power Pentium processor and you can see why they can run fanless.

    - Graff

  8. Re:Quiet cooling for GF3? by htmlboy · · Score: 3, Informative

    At work I've got a GeForce3... does anyone know of a good fan (read: the card won't melt away) that's quiet? The high pitched noise coming from the original fan is driving me nuts.

    not a fan recommendation, but i've found that a little bit of acoustic foam on the inside of a case does wonders to get rid of higher frequency fan noise. i put some on the inside of my case, and it's done wonders to keep the noise from my 7500 rpm cpu fan under control.

    it's a pretty easy install, too. just wipe the dust off the case metal, spray on some 3M spray adhesive, and put the foam there. reassemble the case and you're done.

    i got my foam at 2cooltek.com if you're interested in investigating further (store -> case supplies and coolers -> case mod supplies).

  9. Quiet cases? by MisterPo · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Just a thought about quiet PCs. If the weight of a box is not too much of a problem, then lining the case with a car audio sound deadening may be an option.

    For example example Dynamat (http://www.dynamat.com/), has a range of sheets that are normally used to line car panels. These not only adsorb sound but heat also. So why not??

    That way you can have as many fans as you want in a system and barely hear them :)

    Regards,
    Po

  10. Where are the vertical cases? by jandrese · · Score: 3, Insightful

    One thing that has been bothering me for some time is the amount of energy spent fighting convection in a standard PC case. Just look how often your primary exaust is a power supply fan--where the intake is about 2/3 of the way up in the case. Any air above the intake fan (HOT air) has to be drawn back down into the exaust fan or stagnate. I suspect that in most cases that hot air just stagnates (right up where you CD burner, DVD and possibly even hard drives sit).
    Sorry for not including a small ascii art diagram that would have made the entire layout very obvious, but the lameness filter wouldn't even let a very dumbed down version of it through. Instead I'll try to spell it out here: (Ironically this is much lamer than just including a simple ASCII art diagram).

    The case has the power supply mounted in the normal location, however it is mounted such that the power cord connecter is on the top and the intake vents point downward. In front of the power supply (lining the top of the case) are the drive bays. The top of the case is an open mesh to allow air to escape easily. CD-ROM trays will open upwards (like the Apple Cube) and the floppies will drop in from the top. Each drive will have at least half an inch of space on either side of it to allow air to flow around it. The case will have three (possibly more or less) fans mounted in the bottom blowing upwards. The bottom of the case will be on raised legs that allow air to be pulled in from underneath the case. The motherboard will be mounted normally (since case manufacturers can't really do anything about it). Ideally though you would find some way to mount the PCI and AGP cards vertically.

    The rest of this post is an attempt to explain why I think this will work, and an attempt to avoid the lame lameness filter (why can't people who have good records, with say 35 or 40+ karma, get around the lameness filter?).
    Anyway, my primary intent with this case design is it reduce the turbulance in the case and to use the natural tendancy for heat to rise in my favor. The input fans at the bottom of the case should keep the entire case at a slightly positive pressure. One thing you must do with this case is sit it a couple of inches off of the ground espeically if the "ground" here is shag carpeting. The drives should not be as close together as they are in a standard PC case, and they should allow air to flow freely between them. In these days of 10k and 15k RPM drives cooling your HDs is perhaps one of the most often overlooked aspects if case design. The only big problem I have with this case is the PCI slots. PCI slots are generally too close together for my liking and they are almost invariably mounted horizontally, guarenteeing that any hot card will create a hot spot on the card above it. Unfortunatly there is little a case manufacturer can do about this so I'm leaving it as a caveat. Having the power supply mounted vertically will mean that the power cord will attach to the top of your computer. I recommend either a specialy modified power supply or mounting the power supply horizontally (with the intake repositioned to the bottom of the power supply) and lengthing the case somewhat or simply leaving the power cords on the top of the case. A crafty case manufacturer might even create a little box for the ends of the power cords on the top of the case that will conceal them from general view. If you need more 3 1/2 bays, you can run them down the front of the case (in front of the motherboard) vertically. The final caveat with this configuration is that your users must remember to never stick objects on the top of this case (especially things that can spill, like coffee cups). I recommend making the top rounded or triangular or some other shape unsuited for sitting things on (but remember to leave access for things like CD-ROMs and floppy drives!).

    A similar construction (albiet with more specialized hardware) to this was already used for that Apple Cube (and look how good the cooling was on that, no fan needed!) but it seems like PC manufacturuers still havn't got it. Look at practially any professional server and you'll see similar concepts in play (I'm definatly not claiming I invented any of this) almost exclusivly. Nothing here is new in the slightest and yet nearly every PC case manufacturer insists on the same general layout and same general poor quality construction. Sometimes it feels like the only thing cases are manufactured for is low cost, and all other considerations are secondary. It is this attitude of cutting every corner possible that leads to the air circulation nightmare we have in almost all modern cases. I also believe that high heat lowers the life of PC components, be it through shrinking and expanding or just plain mild constant overheating. This goes double for devices like hard drives which have actual mechanical components and thin layers of oil to worry about.

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