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Knights of the Limits

JT Martin writes with his review of Barrington Bayley's The Knights of the Limits. Fans of obscure science fiction should thank JT for the service thus rendered. Knights of the Limits author Barrington J. Bayley pages 218 publisher Cosmos Books rating 9 reviewer JT Martin ISBN 1587153831 summary Nine stories suffused with a sense of wonder

Obscure genius Little known even inside the genre of science fiction, Barrington Bayley has been composing tightly plotted work for almost 50 years in relative obscurity.

This astonishing selection of nine short stories has been loudly admired by almost all the stalwarts of the genre; Mike Moorcock recently named it one of his top ten sf books in an article for The Guardian. Bruce Sterling has praised it to high heavens in a piece he wrote for Cheap Truth, calling Bayley "the zen master of modern space opera." John Clute, Brian Stableford, Charles Platt and even the late, great William Burroughs have all spoken of Bayley in fervently admiring words.

Despite all the accolades, strangely and sadly nobody has even heard of the book. Originally published in 1978 it came and went in the blink of an eye, remained unavailable for the past few decades and commanded ridiculous prices in the used book market.

So why all the fuzz Bayley is one of the great ideas guys of the genre science fiction. When he actually gets mentioned, the response usually is a smile and a gasp; "Oh, he's that wild guy!" Exuberant, weird, metaphysical, astounding, thrilling are all words that apply. Trailing Borges with a serious nod to A. E. Van Vogt, his stuff perplexes and confounds you with the barrage of bizarre ideas he weaves into these stories. He belongs to the great freewheeling tradition of imaginative writers; forget Kim Stanley Robinson and Arthur C. Clarke, think Charles Harness, Olaf Stapledon and Rudy Rucker - he invents his science (that's why it's called fiction, eh?) and bounces off to the nomansland like some mutant kangaroo. This is stuff you can barely find on the shelves today as franchise poop is being pushed on all the fronts.

Bayley knows his science but isn't limited by it - his writing bellows straight from his subconscious pool of theoretical thought, winging it with gusto and joy. For an example, "Me and My Antronoscope," -- one of his signature stories -- describes a universe completely filled with rock. The existing life inhabits pockets of space within. With obvious delight Bayley pauses at the thought and starts imagining "what would it be like?" He finds the answer and runs off with the thought, goes off to describe their version of space travel and the obvious problems facing any such attempts. It is a brilliant vision, conceptualized with wonder, but as much of what is called science fiction today is really just extrapolations of current sciences many readers will simply not see the point of it.

The same is true of most of the rest of Bayley's fiction - it doesn't portray the future; it imagines, dreams and invents new cosmologies, universes, alien life and their respective philosophies. He writes existential pieces about robot consciousness, he tinkers in his workshop wondering about the nature of space, mixing and matching analytical philosophy, mathematics, physics, biology and anthropology in a melodramatic and exuberant manner.

One should be forewarned that his powers of characterization and dialogue are more restrained -- the function of people in his stories tends to simply be setting off the scenery. His love of old pulp science fiction is obvious, and the bizarre juxtaposing of robots and rayguns with rigorous metaphysical invention can be startling, but with a sly satirical touch he succeeds laudably.

It is distressing to see such a vividly entertaining thinker miss the boat -- if Bayley had been born in Poland or Argentina we'd all be reading him now alongside Stanislaw Lem and Philip K. Dick, but as Kubrick never filmed THE SOUL OF THE ROBOT (instead using it as fodder to his conception of A.I.), he remains unread in the English language while the Japanese devour his translated works. So if you feel you're attuned to this brand of extravagnce, THE KNIGHTS OF THE LIMITS is the perfect intoruction, presenting 9 of his key stories. If you decide to give it a try, keep in mind that this most certainly is not extrapolative hard science fiction. It is wildly original speculative stuff that will literally boggle the mind and open new venues of thought and invention.

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40 comments

  1. Let me get this straight... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Flamebait

    The worst terrorist attack in recorded history occurred in September, and now we're involved in a WAR against Islam and you people have the gall to be discussing Knights of the Limits???? My *god*, people, GET SOME PRIORITIES!

    The bodies of the thousands of innocent civilians who died (and will die) in these unprecedented events could give a good god damn about obscure science fiction, your childish Lego models, your nerf toy guns and whining about the lack of a "fun" workplace, your Everquest/Diablo/D&D fixation, the latest Cowboy Bebop rerun, or any of the other ways you are "getting on with your life" (here's a hint: watching Cowboy Bebop in your jammies and eating a bowl of Shreddies is *not* "getting on with your life"). The souls of the victims are watching in horror as you people squander your finite, precious time on this earth playing video games!

    You people disgust me!

    1. Re:Let me get this straight... by trollercoaster · · Score: -1

      Beautiful!!!

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    2. Re:Let me get this straight... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

      I will say this, I am not a fan of science fiction and the like (flame away if you like), but I do believe that persuing non-terrorist related news and events is important to the recovery of the nation. Obsessing over the events of Sept. 11 are in no way the method to cope and deal with the tragedies that have and might still occur. A nation of morose and frightful individuals is not what is needed, as that is exactly what the terrorists desire. Our strength as a people comes from our resilience, be it the bombing of Pearl Harbor, the assassination of a president, or a terrorist attack. The power of the US lies in its ability not to disregard events, but to deal with them. I believe that the nation needs to pursue other interests, for no matter how much of our attention we give to the problems of terrorism and related issues, for unless we are part of the government or in other positions of power, there is very little we can do. So please, do not ignore what has happened, but rather cope with the events in any way that you can.

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    3. Re:Let me get this straight... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

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      Get a clue. The only people who need some serious help with coping are those who are being bombed out of house and home. So fuck your prissy tears, and start worrying about the real effect of this war.

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    5. Re:Let me get this straight... by jholley · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      Starting pissing matches with people who just wanted to read about a book seems a bit silly, and inconsistent with your professed solemnity.

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  3. fp baby by TheLionMan · · Score: -1

    fifth post!

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  5. Hrrmm.... by Teancom · · Score: 4, Funny

    "Exuberant, weird, metaphysical, astounding, thrilling are all words that apply. ... perplexes and confounds you with the barrage of bizarre ideas he weaves into these stories ... bellows straight from his subconscious pool of theoretical thought, winging it with gusto and joy ... existential pieces about robot consciousness ... in a melodramatic and exuberant manner"

    Okay, we have two equally plausible scenarios. 1) JT Martin is a big fan of writers like Moorcock and Lovecraft, so he is conciously copying their overexcessive verbage and flagrant writing style or 2) he just bought a thesaurus.

    You be the judge.....

    1. Re:Hrrmm.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

      Must be 2, the chance of finding an actual Moorcock fan is just too unlikely.

    2. Re:Hrrmm.... by The+Real+Andrew · · Score: 1

      No way! Elric is one of the greatest hero/anti-hero's around. A man trying to redeem himself, fighting against an intelligent sword that loves to kill and drain souls, but without which he will die.

      He also has some other great characters but they are all the same (for the people who don't get that, read some of other series as well)

      Andrew

    3. Re:Hrrmm.... by tomknight · · Score: 1
      Well, I'll be boring and say I like Michael Moorcock. Don't know who this Mike Moorcock chap is though.....

      Seriously, Moorcock is a fine author. He's had his crap periods (I've never been able to read "The Time Of The Hawklords", and I'm a great Hawkwind fan....), but overall, Moorcock is worth a read. Just compare his imagination and style with these crappy 700/800 page fantasy epics by Robert Jordan.....

      Tom.

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    4. Re:Hrrmm.... by dswensen · · Score: 1

      I was gonna say Don King.

    5. Re:Hrrmm.... by T.+Will+S.+Idea · · Score: 1

      You mean Michael Moorcock writes science fiction and fantasy novels? I've seen his books before but from the name I'd concluded that they had been mis-shelved from the erotica section.

      I mean... Michael Moorcock. That's almost as good as Dirk Diggler.

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    6. Re:Hrrmm.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The sad thing is that you think that was a "overexcessive" verbiage, while anyone else with a college education would not even bat an eyelash at it.

    7. Re:Hrrmm.... by Teancom · · Score: 1, Flamebait

      You are a poor, sad little man. Unable to even come up with a handle like "SpeelingNazi", you are obviously the type of person that uses big words just because you can. Well, here in the real world, we use language to communicate, not show off. This writeup had all the hallmarks of a sophomore english major who still equates word count with quality, and adjectives with content. Did I understand all the words he used? Yes. Were they all necessary? No. Did they contribute to the review? Not really. Was I deep-down concerned about it? No, it was barely worth a funny post. However, and I know nothing about JT Martin, if he wants to write real reviews for real newsmedia, he would be well advised to tone down the hyperbole.

      Oh, and I suspect that *you* are JT Martin, but as I don't know I won't accuse him. If you are, then my other word of advice is to not take criticism personally. My little joke is nothing compared to what a professional editor would do to you.

      Spelling mistakes left in to piss you off. And btw, I graduminated frum colege, two. So there :-)

    8. Re:Hrrmm.... by martinjt · · Score: 1

      He's not, I am. Calm down y'all, just having fun typing it up and being enthusiastic about something worth being enthusiastic about. Otherwise I got me no beef with what you just said. Wheee.

    9. Re:Hrrmm.... by Derwen · · Score: 2
      Seriously, Moorcock is a fine author. He's had his crap periods (I've never been able to read "The Time Of The Hawklords", and I'm a great Hawkwind fan....), but overall, Moorcock is worth a read

      Hmm. I never read the Time of the Hawklords book, however some of the songs Moorcock wrote for Hawkwind are OK. Better still are those he released as Michael Moorcock's Deep Fix - in particular "Good Girl/ Bad Girl."

      As for Books the experimental Jerry Cornelius novels ("Cure for Cancer" et al.) still stand up very well, as do some of the novels from the 1980's.

      Even the numerous Eternal Champion novels need no apology - books written in three days each (15,000 words a day) to finance a failing fiction magazine by a man whose marriage was failing at the same time.

      Trying very hard to get back on topic, this review has prompted me to think about rereading some Bayley. As I don't go to conventions he is actually the only SciFi author I've ever met. In Liverpool 15 years ago I sat in with a group of philosophy students I knew whilst he talked to them about some of his ideas - many of those that are referred to in the review.
      Of course before I do that I'll have to finish Ash - 900 pages down, 200 to go. Time to go offline and get reading :-)

      - Derwen

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  6. Not First! by l33t+j03 · · Score: -1

    If I'd known it was gonna be this kind of party I'd have stuck my dick in the mashed potatoes!

    1. Re:Not First! by Trolligula · · Score: -1

      i believe that what you meant to say was:

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  7. late post for the goatlord by Sexual+Asspussy · · Score: -1

    i have to pee

  8. Also by The+Real+Andrew · · Score: 3, Informative

    "The Garments of Caean is also worth reading if you can find a copy of it lying around.

    Andrew

  9. The more dead Muslims, the better! by First+Nigger · · Score: -1

    Fuck all raghead sand nigger Muslims. We should ahev another crusades. Fuck, let's just nuke the whole Middle East (once we get all our peopl eout of the region) then for good measure nuke Indonesia, because there are a lot of those fucking Muslims there also.

  10. What does it mean for linux developers. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    I just want to know what all this means to those who develop linux apps and all..
    Will linux be able to develop more stuff without M$ crying foul..

  11. Sci Fi by crumbz · · Score: 1, Interesting

    Reading science fiction as I was growing up was one of the most positive experiences of my life. It provided me with the tools of imagination and the ability to rectify opposing views on social issues. THe best sci-fi ala Clark, Asimov, Gibson, Heinlein is that the underlying social critique is relevent to the hear and now despite an alien setting.

    My 2 cents.

  12. GPL -- nice but inconsistent by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    The most annoying thing about the GPL is the way people (mostly Americans) can't bring themselves
    to admitting that it's a half-baked socialist ideal, because they don't even understand socialism,
    let alone dare claim support for it. Nay, even communist, because RMS believes all software *must
    * have this licence.

    The GPL argument seems to be based on, "software has no monetary value because it can be easily co
    pied". If software were an expression of an idea that only existed on non-replicable medium, it wo
    uld have such value, right? Excellent. All I have to do then is to make a Star Trek Replicator (I'
    m sure it will happen eventually) and, by RMS, _everything_ replicable will lose all financial val
    ue.

    The placement of software on a bit of media is no different than Coca Cola saying, "hey, this woul
    d be a cool mix of sugar and goo!" and mixing the ingredients together into a can. Or a carpenter
    saying "hm, I know how to make a more sturdy chair" and building it with his tools. Each is the se
    quence idea -> implementation of idea.

    I can't possibly fathom why ideas should be free. (that is to say, the mere product of man's mind)
    but the expression of those ideas (say in a chair, the product of man's mind and hands) may not.
    Worse, why campaign for ideas to be free, but let those who restrict their ideas (the majority of
    companies) use their ideas for further restriction?

    Trying to figure out an answer:

    1. Expression takes more effort? No it doesn't. Thinking the ideas often takes more effort than im
    plementing them, e.g. developing a new drug compared to mixing the ingredients.

    2. Research into new ideas costs no money? Ha. This might explain why GNU / Linux is so uninnovati
    ve, and its main role is to play catchup. Yes, Linux has some wonderful efficiences, say in the in
    terrupt processing code. But there are never any *big new ideas*. Research takes much money and ti
    me, the gathering of data, the use of equipment, and the use of people who have to eat and be hous
    ed, etc.

    3. Ideas can be copied without cost. No, someone pays for the communications medium. Usually Big B
    ad Corporations, unless you wish to free the implementation of ideas too. _Cheaply_, maybe. You te
    ll a man stuck in the middle of Africa, "Dammit! Just download the source! It's Free!" and he may
    ask you for (food..) education in the English language, a computer and an Internet connection. Fre
    e software may lower the barrier to enlightenment, but only for rich Westerners with lots of time
    on their hands to learn.

    Consistency please!

  13. GOAT SEX BUFFET by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Have I come to the right place?

  14. Other reading by ackthpt · · Score: 1, Offtopic
    I'll give it a look, but aside from that, I've aready read Terry Pratchett's The Last Hero, which is profusely and beautifully illustrated (picturebook style) by Paul Kidby, which was a fun 4-5 hour read (only ~180 pages)

    Also got a bulletin from Amazon.co.uk that he's got a 'childrens' book coming out shortly, too, Amazing Maurice and His Educated Rodents, a Pied-Piper tale that goes awry (doesn't everything?) set in Diskworld.

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    1. Re:Other reading by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      just finished reading that one last night.

      I'm glad Pratchett had that break not so long ago. his writing has recovered that freshness and audacity that was so prevalent in his earlier books.

      *spoiler* bewarned if you let yourkids read it, they will definately start crying their eyes out when Maurice dies.
      (He is a cat don't forget ....)

      ./Jp

  15. The Zen Gun - Bayley by Scrymarch · · Score: 3, Informative

    Picked this up many years ago second-hand; top book. He has a fun method of making up physics that seems superficially plausible and consistent and then baking it into a metaphorical pizza and starting a massive food fight with it. Lots of pulpy ideas ... worth a look.

  16. surreality is no longer fictional by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic
    We can't be the first to inform that what was unthinkable/fiction just a short time ago, is now stark reality.

    As far as monsters go, have you seen these face scans of those felonious softwar gangsters? Talk about whoreabull.

    Enter our web address giveaway. Includes a year's free hosting, if you're not aFraUD, & can follow some simple directions.

    fud IS dead?

  17. Verbiage by deprecated · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    vergiage

  18. 26 comments?!? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    worst story *ever*

  19. Other BJB books by Chocky2 · · Score: 4, Informative

    A lot of Bayley's books are still in print, mainly with Cosmos Books, and are relatively easy to find (as easy as obscure old SF ever is). He manages to do a fair job keeping the science reasonable (if dated) even though the settings are generally space-operary.

    Unless you're a student of the genre, skip his first novel "Star Virus" - it's interesting as an example of an early SF disaster story, rather than a good, well written tale. His next book "Annihilation Factor" is better, but most valuable as it introduces well many motifs he uses in later works. Next come "Empire of Two Worlds" and "Collision with Chronos" (aka Collision Course) - the former good, the latter probably his best work; of his later books "The Fall of Chronopolis" and "The Garments of Caean" are the strongest, with "The Zen Gun" being the last decent thing he's written. Scattered among these are his short stories, which vary greatly in merit, the early ones have for the most part been collected in "Knights of the Limits" and "Seed of Evil", the most notable of these is "The 4 Colour Problem"; the later ones are mostly missable.

  20. Rod of Light by Barrington Bayley by Ella+the+Cat · · Score: 2, Interesting

    ... is another of his SF books - I haven't read it for years and years, I can't remember much about it, so if you want to know more try Google. I do know I kept it because it's good and very weird, and now I can read it all over again. Yay!

    Ella the Cat's sister Sam died today. Take a look at her website http://www.shevek.f9.co.uk if you're a cat person.

  21. Whoa! Synchronicity. by wildwood · · Score: 1
    Which came first, this review or the Memepool posting?

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  22. Oblique, you say? by Jingle+Returno · · Score: -1

    Sci-fi is fun. But try The Tunnel by William H. Gaas sometime. Maureen Dowd hates it. You'll love it.

  23. The Pillars of Eternity by TheBoquaz · · Score: 1

    I found The Pillars of Eternity at a garage sale for $0.25. It then became one of my favorite books. Boquaz is a long and complicated derivation of Boaz, the name of the main character of the book.

  24. Barkingly brilliant. by ekrout · · Score: 0, Redundant

    This is Bayley at the peak of his powers, barkingly brilliant. The thought experiments he weaves into a mosaic of energetic stories works its way to you like Borges on speed, a strange hybrid of Rudy Rucker, Italo Calvino and A. E. van Vogt - yet the core of it remains inescapably Bayley's own brand of strange sf. It's more like speculative cosmology, except Freeman Dyson would never have come up with ideas like Bayley's.

    Like, what if the universe was completely filled with rock? And each of us is living in a little bubble in the rock? In other words, the basic premise of the story is impossible because the universe is not full of rock. But he's like, "what if it was?" And he goes on to describe attempts at space travel in this universe, the problems that arise, and ends the whole shebang with an orgasmic zen buzz to your frontal lobes. Wow. And then there more, each story going off on wild tangents into space and time and the lack thereof. If you think you're up for the ride, go for it. But be warned - this is NOT extrapolative hard sf, this is utterly original speculative stuff that will mess with your notions of reality and boggle the mind.

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