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The Root of All Evil

Craig Maloney contributed this review, because you can't always read a 600-page, densely written technical manual without a little something to leaven the bread. The Root of All Evil author J.D. "Illiad" Frazer pages 136 publisher O'Reilly rating 9 reviewer Craig Maloney ISBN 0-596-00193-2 summary The third collection of User Friendly comic strips covering all of the strips appearing in Y2K.

Unless you've been living behind a 2400 baud modem for the past few years, you've probably heard of the tales of Columbia Internet as described in the online comic strip User Friendly. You've probably even looked at a few strips from time to time. You may even have bought the two previous books "User Friendly" and "Evil Geniuses in a Nutshell". Whatever experience you've had with User Friendly, you'll really enjoy the third printed installment "The Root of All Evil".

What's good?

"The Root of All Evil" picks up right where "Evil Geniuses in a Nutshell" left off, with the first comic being the result of a "Y2K" error. Normality returns to Columbia Internet in short order, however, with the invention of an office assistant for VI called "VIGOR" (which spawned it's own real-life equivalent). There's plenty of good story lines in this collection: Pitr challenging Crud Puppy, the introduction of Cat Five, the Coffee Ring incident, Dark Side Dave, the X-Friends, the camping trip, and many many more. But the real reason many UFies should get this book is the introduction of the character that's quickly become a fan favorite: Sid Dabster. The battles between Pitr and Sid are absolutely hysterical. If you need proof, just think what might happen to Sid who has all of his old code on punched cards neatly stacked in a room, only to have his rival Pitr waiting outside the door with a leaf blower. There's plenty of moments like this in "The Root of All Evil" to keep you smiling.

The comics are transferred to the page rather well, with only a few contrast issues. Unlike the previous books, all of the Sunday comics are in their proper height.

What's bad?

There's only two nitpicks I can level at this collection, and they're both extremely picky. The first is the Sunday comics are all in black and white. Unfortunately, to print 1/7th of this book in color would probably increase the printing costs way beyond what User Friendly's audience would pay. Fortunately if you really want to see them in their original glory, you can view them online. The second nitpick can be levelled at any collection of topical comic strips. Sometimes the jokes are too topical. A few of the Sunday sight gags (which tend to be more topical than the weekday gags) left me scratching my head. Some of the jokes are starting to show their age (this is internet time, of course :) ), but there's also a certain nostalgia in comic collections like this. It's like going back and reading Bloom County books with their references to 1980's popular culture. Sure the "I Love You" virus is remembered about as well as a Sean Penn joke, but there's a certain charm in remembering a time when "I Love You" was zipping effortlessly across the net, and X-Men was the movie everyone camped out to see. Do I think User Friendly should be less topical? Of course not. That's some of the beauty of User Friendly (and Bloom County, for that matter). The strips in this book perfectly capture the humor of the situations we all were facing at the time. Just remember you might have to bring some of those old memories back to fully enjoy this book.

What's in it for me?

If you have the previous User Friendly books, this is a no-brainer purchase. If you don't have them, you might want to get the other two books before purchasing this one. If you've never viewed User Friendly, view a few strips online or leaf through the other books first. If you're like most geeks, you'll find you'll want as much User Friendly as you can get!

You can purchase this book from FatBrain.

95 comments

  1. Userfriendly by Anonymous+Pancake · · Score: 5, Informative

    I can't believe that a comic with so many nerdy, linux-related jokes was actually in a real newspaper (the national post, in canada) for a while. I'm sure 99% of the population didn't have a clue what any of the stuff they were talking about was. It didn't last long, of course. One more thing... didn't userfriendly have a GOAT in it? I wonder where they got the idea for that from.

    1. Re:Userfriendly by Alan · · Score: 2

      Erhm.... no, no goat in userfriendly. They have a dustpuppy, a crudpuppy, and an AI named Erwin though. If you're into goats in comic strips, check out Goats.

    2. Re:Userfriendly by Alien54 · · Score: 1, Offtopic
      Erhm.... no, no goat in userfriendly.

      On the other hand, the author, illiad, has been known to be partial to llamas.

      but you'd have to visit the IRC channel to find this out. And Llamas have achieved the status of an old IRC joke that is slowly fading into the background.

      not that it is important or anything.

      --
      "It is a greater offense to steal men's labor, than their clothes"
    3. Re:Userfriendly by Alan · · Score: 1, Offtopic

      Funnily enough I was the one who started the irc channel, and was also part of Keth's conspiricy to get Illiad a llama (stuffed) for his very own :)

  2. Never read it. by Deal-a-Neil · · Score: 3, Funny

    I, for one, am hiding behind my Hayes Micromodem //e at 300 baud. I've never even heard of it.

    1. Re:Never read it. by Deal-a-Neil · · Score: 1

      I stand corrected -- just checked out the web site. These are published in Linux Journal, I believe -- so, I am a devout User Friendly reader. ;-)

      Move over Hayes Micromodem //e, and say hello to the Zoom Telephonics 14.4 v32.bis.

  3. root by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    the root of all Linux is /

    1. Re:root by diadem · · Score: 1

      the root of all Linux is /
      yes, but the root of all evil is Pitr

      --
      Liquid Gaming - Your daily dose of gaming news
    2. Re:root by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And the root of all evil is C:\!!

    3. Re:root by TeknoHog · · Score: 4, Insightful

      and the root of all Evil is \

      --
      Escher was the first MC and Giger invented the HR department.
    4. Re:root by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, that the root of all Windows.
      Windows is the root of all evil.
      Therefore, \ is the root of the root of all evil.

      (Evil^0.25)

    5. Re:root by ThatComputerGuy · · Score: 1

      and, of course, the root of all evil is c:\windows

      --
      XML is like violence. If it doesn't solve the problem, use more.
    6. Re:root by resistor2004 · · Score: 1

      Math is the square root of all evil.

    7. Re:root by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      AHH! I GOT IT! The root of all evil must be M$! Oh, shit, did someone say that already? Never mind, I'll just say it again, because it's FUNNY!

  4. Are you kidding? by Xpilot · · Score: 2, Redundant

    X-Friends was awful! That joke about erasing the backups just fell flat.

    --
    "Backups are for wimps. Real men upload their data to an FTP site and have everyone else mirror it." -- Linus Torvalds
  5. Re:User Friendly Sucks It Hard by JanneM · · Score: 0, Troll

    I think you are due a humour transplant.

    /Janne

    --
    Trust the Computer. The Computer is your friend.
  6. 300 baud? by hessian · · Score: 1

    I find only BAUDOT survives the interruptions of our communications systems these days. Anyone using 300 baud or above is subject to all forms of magnetic interference.

  7. reading jokes about work by perdida · · Score: 1, Insightful

    I never got this.

    Why do people want to read jokes about their work?

    Every programmer, sys-admin, developer, designer, de-bugger, support-desk jockey, etc. that I know DESPISES their job and can't wait to get home.

    This may consist of them popping onto IRC again 45 minutes later from a home workstation, but one thing is clear: they DON'T want to read jokes about their work.

    My guess is that User Friendly's readership comes primarily from wanna-bes and the unemployed; people who, due to ignorance or poverty, actually want to have one of these drudge jobs.

    1. Re:reading jokes about work by marcushnk · · Score: 2, Funny

      I disagree.
      I've been sys-admin'ing for long enough to want out. But I still enjoy UF and all the "in" or "out" jokes that go with it.

      --
      "Consider how lucky you are that life has been good to you so far. Alternatively, if life hasn't been good to you so far
    2. Re:reading jokes about work by Ghoser777 · · Score: 2

      Me thinks that if you dislike your work, your more readily wanting to make fun of your work (or have someone else do it for you).

      F-bacher

      --
      James Tiberius Kirk: "Spock, the women on your planet are logical. No other planet in the galaxy can make that claim."
    3. Re:reading jokes about work by PhReaKyDMoNKeY · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Dilbert was bloody popular among engineers and the blue-collar workforce in general. User Friendly does the same thing. Illiad may be a rather lacking in the talent department (goodbye, karma), but he does know how to appeal to a certain audience. Dilbert got your cublicle workers, User Friendly your nerdy Unix freaks, Doonesbury your political liberals, Garfield your fat lasagna-loving cats (?), and so on...

      Anyway, Penny Arcade is far superior in both art and content, and the jokes aren't nearly as obscure.

    4. Re:reading jokes about work by swordgeek · · Score: 2

      You seriously know that many people who hate their tech jobs? Scary! I can't imagine spending a third of my life doing something I despise. I recommend that everyone you know get a new job, or possibly get a different life. Something is seriously wrong when you can't laugh at yourself or your life.

      --

      "People who do stupid things with hazardous materials often die." -- Jim Davidson on alt.folklore.urban
    5. Re:reading jokes about work by etymxris · · Score: 1
      Every programmer, sys-admin, developer, designer, de-bugger, support-desk jockey, etc. that I know DESPISES their job and can't wait to get home.


      You've got bigger problems if you despise your work. I've worked at two companies, one where worked sucked, and one where work was great. I enjoyed reading dilbert and userfriendly throughout my stay at both companies.

      You obviously don't understand IT if you think no one would program anything if it were not for money.

      BTW, adequacy.org sucks.
    6. Re:reading jokes about work by Doctor_D · · Score: 2

      Every programmer, sys-admin, developer, designer, de-bugger, support-desk jockey, etc. that I know DESPISES their job and can't wait to get home.

      Well I have to disagree with you here. My previous job I was a UNIX sysadmin and a Sybase DBA. I hated being a DBA--mainly 'cause I didn't get SQL very well, and had enough UNIX fires to deal with--the former sysadmin wasn't too terribly great, imho. I worked weekends, late into evenings. I would get called in on my vacations and holidays. Sadly I liked what I did (minus the DBA stuff), but I really disliked some of the people that I had to deal with.

      So you better understand my meaning, having totally non-technical people telling me how I should do my job, and my boss not really understanding what I did or listening to my suggestions of how to improve efficiency and reduce downtime.

      But I also switched jobs a few months ago, and I really enjoy my new job. It definatley helps that the people are much cooler. :)

      But more to the point...throughout all of this I have enjoyed reading UserFriendly.

      --
      "If you insist on using Windoze you're on your own."
    7. Re:reading jokes about work by cduffy · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Every programmer, sys-admin, developer, designer, de-bugger, support-desk jockey, etc. that I know DESPISES their job and can't wait to get home.

      Uhh... ya obviously don't know me. :)

      Seriously, though, all the best tech folks I know love their work for a passion (and, being employed by MontaVista Software, I work with a great many of them). I (and probably most of the folks who are good at what they do) won't work somewhere I'm not happy, even if the money's better.

      If you think coding is drudge work, then you Just Don't Get It; the joy of creation is lost on you. So be it -- some people don't have it -- but don't deny that some of us do. Hell, most free software wouldn't exist if creating it weren't fun.

      I read User Friendly for the same reason I read Dilbert -- it's funny, and I can laugh about people whose jobs suck compared to mine (though we may both work in the same industry).

    8. Re:reading jokes about work by warpeightbot · · Score: 3, Insightful
      Every programmer, sys-admin, developer, designer, de-bugger, support-desk jockey, etc. that I know DESPISES their job and can't wait to get home.
      You poor bastards.

      Most of the geeks I know do it because they love it. The boss had to run me off Thursday night, and had to remind me last night that today is Saturday and I don't work. Those of us who can have DSL at home and hack our own boxen at night and on rainy weekends (which happens a lot in Seattle :)... my best friend just wrote a PHP hack to assist convention schedulers in planning panels, and I'm busy learning the ins and outs of Debian and making it play nice with my Sony Vaio....

      My opinion is that if you're just doing it for the money, GET OUT OF THE FIELD, and find something you really like doing. Yeah, so you'll have to trade the Beemer for a Saturn. Believe me, I'm a lot happier working for an itty bitty company doing what I love, than pimping myself to some huge faceless corporation making the big dime and hating it. Been there, done that.

      Go read "What Color Is Your Parachute." Yeah, it looks dippy. It's not. Changed my life.

      Geekdom is like baseball. Yeah, there are some that do it because they're good at it and can make money. (Fie on you, A-Rod.) But the best players play For Love Of The Game. (I-CHI-RO!)

      My guess is that User Friendly's readership comes primarily from wanna-bes and the unemployed; people who, due to ignorance or poverty, actually want to have one of these drudge jobs.
      Just because you hate your job doesn't mean that those of us that love our jobs are losers. My personal definition of success is doing what I love and getting paid for it. If you don't love what brings home the bacon, then I gotta put my hand up to my forehead with my thumb and pointy finger held at right angles, because frankly there is no sadder thing than depending on that which you hate. I don't have to have the fattest paycheck on my block. Don't want it.... the price is far too high in terms of stress and happiness.

      Sign me,
      Sleeping Well in Seattle :)

    9. Re:reading jokes about work by DNS-and-BIND · · Score: 2

      Userfriendly isn't nearly in the same league as "Dilbert". It's not as funny, not as witty, and the creator didn't work at Pac Bell for 10 years. Furthermore, "Dilbert" has a rather larger audience, which is all office workers. It's not blue-collar in the slightest (?)

      --
      Shutting down free speech with violence isn't fighting fascism. It IS fascism!
    10. Re:reading jokes about work by crush · · Score: 1

      Which model VAIO do you have? What have the issues been? I've just ordered one of the last of the R505TLK. They threw in a free CD-ROM, but I've heard it's a problem getting them to work. Are you going to put up any info on your experiences?

    11. Re:reading jokes about work by Garpenlov · · Score: 2

      My guess is that User Friendly's readership comes primarily from wanna-bes

      Yep, that sounds about right (i agree with this from first-hand observations).

      --
      --- Where's my X.400 protocol decoder?
    12. Re:reading jokes about work by PhReaKyDMoNKeY · · Score: 1

      Rather, I meant white-collar. Sorry, I'm an idiot. ==bows in shame==

      :P

    13. Re:reading jokes about work by Bigbutt · · Score: 1

      As others have said, you don't know me then.

      It started out as an offshoot of my DND gaming (programming user monitoring tools) and my typesetting at work (graphic artist). When I lost that job, I found a part time job programming in BASICA. From there I move into LANS.

      Now I'm being paid to be a Unix geek at NASA.

      It's been 22 years now since I picked up a Sinclair and I still love what I do.

      [John]

      --
      Shit better not happen!
    14. Re:reading jokes about work by ACK!! · · Score: 2

      I do not what prompts such silly bitterness but you must work in a really cruddy place. Like most people have said the people that read slashdot and userfriendly and such things do so because they love technology, computers, *nixes and the code.

      From my user profile here at Slashdot:
      I dream of big machines multi-processor server beasts. I fall asleep to the soothing whirr of RAID arrays grinding in the background. Endless lines of monotous code fill my head as I down one too many Jolts with the coffee cup still on my desk. I hold onto the mouse like a lifeline because it is. This is what I always wanted. This is what I got. I am not afraid.

      --
      ACK /ak/ interj. 2. [from the comic strip "Bloom County"] An exclamation of surprised disgust, esp. i
  8. Yeah me too by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Micro modems are pretty sweet.

    Thanks.

    Ma bell is so nice. 8)

  9. Repetitive jokes by secolactico · · Score: 1

    You can only come up with so many tech support/microsoft-sucks jokes and not become repetitive. I read this comic every day. Sometimes I laugh out loud and sometimes I am left thinking "... uh?"

    Illiad has tried a couple of new approaches that detract from the usual themes (eg the Miranda/AJ thing) but sometimes he fails to follow on them.

    I'll be ordering my copy of the book as soon as Amazon has it available (ordering directly from the author can be a problem when you live overseas).

    --
    No sig
  10. Re:User Friendly Sucks It Hard by Troller+Durden · · Score: 1, Funny

    Oh yes, you're a simpleton who's easily amused by tedious and repeatative garbage, but obviously it's the other guy who has a humor problem.

  11. Re:User Friendly Sucks It Hard by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    Agreed. The jokes are stale, the drawing - if that's the right word - lacks talent, and the characters are flat.

    There are far better web comics out there to support!

  12. Not what I thought this review was about.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny


    When I saw a book review titled "The Root of All Evil" I thought this was going to be a review for "The Road Ahead"

    1. Re:Not what I thought this review was about.. by _ph1ux_ · · Score: 1

      C:\WINDOWS>

  13. Thank God by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    After reading the replies here, I am relieved to find out I'm not the only nerd/tech/freak who does *not* find User Friendly even remotely funny or entertaining.
    It's badly drawn, for one: I drew like this in high-school. The 'side view of skinny guys with flat asses and no pecs' thing is not bad per se, but shows little effort on the part of the author to go beyond an adolescent presentation.
    The jokes are usually groaners, bad puns and such. Yay.
    The only people I can envision regularly laughing out loud at this would be wearing white socks with brown shoes, green turtlenecks and thick horn rimmed glasses.

    1. Re:Thank God by Hektor_Troy · · Score: 1

      Uhm ... where do you have that camera installed? I'd like to know, because obviously you've been spying on me, since you know that I do in fact wear white socks, brown shoes, a green turtleneck and thick horn rimmed glasses to work, and that I also find Userfriendly to be funny (most of the time).

      --
      We do not live in the 21st century. We live in the 20 second century.
    2. Re:Thank God by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You're also skinny with no pecs and a flat ass? Just wondering. I've got lots of cameras pointed at uber-geeks.

  14. Hey - help us sell more books by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Where the f*** is the elementary courtesy of telling us this is a plug for a comic book?
    Yeah, we know ya get money if folks click n' buy,
    but sheese! Maybe we'd rather not have mystery topics. Sell a banner ad.

  15. Redmeat by DGolden · · Score: 2

    I still prefer redmeat.

    --
    Choice of masters is not freedom.
  16. The bad by m2 · · Score: 4, Informative

    I was actually dissapointed at the quality of the print-outs. The halftone function wasn't carefully selected and many of the sunday strips (as well as a couple of the regular ones) are a blotch of black ink.

    My other complain is that, in light of the price (US$12.95 list), I had expected some original, non-web, content. Contrast with the Sluggy Freelance books (to name just one example) which are not only of atonishing quality for the price, but has color pages too ("Game called on account of naked chick").

    Complain about Erwin not being as good nor showing as often as three years ago avoided.

    1. Re:The bad by ekrout · · Score: 2, Informative

      This book is great, man. It's back to Columbia Internet, "the friendliest, hardest-working, and most neurotic little Internet Service Provider in the world," for the third installment from the hit online comic, User Friendly. The cast: Quake-obsessed techies, self-absorbed sales staff, well-meaning execs, and assorted almost-humans. The background: too little office space, warring operating systems, and eternally clueless customers.

      Tag along as geeks go camping, Mike finds a new use for silly putty, and Stef decides to beef up his Quake skills with the Acme Forced-Feedback Enemy-Denial Smackdown Ergonomic Game Chair.

      If you've read the first two User Friendly editions from O'Reilly, you don't need an introduction to Greg, Jeff, Miranda, the Dust Puppy and the others. But if you haven't, welcome to the world of the hard-core geek, where humor--especially at one's own foibles--can be a survival skill. Since this is true of most work environments, chances are you won't have to know Unix or be able to log in as "root" in order to get the joke.

      Illiad's community is truly global--the comic's one-million-plus readers log on from Israel, Brazil, Iceland, New Zealand, and Greece, among other far-flung locations. All kinds of people seem drawn to the strip-- from 8-year-old girls to 81-year-old women--a large, diverse, and very loyal community.

      --

      If you celebrate Xmas, befriend me (538
  17. This is odd by comic-not · · Score: 1, Interesting

    Why do people publish comics that are so badly drawn that it defies description? Ok, Dilbert is not a hallmark of technical proficiency either but at least it obeys the K.I.S.S. principle, and it works. People that can draw comics as good as the one above come thirteen in a dozen - heck, even my 8 years old daughter draws comics that are of higher quality. To make the point that I'm not just another badmouthing neophyte, I'd like to shamelessly recommend my own online comic, The Sixth Seal. It is a good example of a comic drawn by a visually oriented hacker who puts in as much effort as some of his peers put in software development, with the same ultimatum that only quality matters.

    --
    Existence usually comes as a surprise (Idem)
    1. Re:This is odd by BitwizeGHC · · Score: 2

      Your comic looks magnificent! It's very beautiful.

      --
      N4st0r, trixx0r h0bb1tz0rz! Th3y st0l3 0ur pr3c10uzz!
    2. Re:This is odd by comic-not · · Score: 1

      Your comic looks magnificent! It's very beautiful.

      Thanks! Another odd thing is that some illiterate moron modified my original, substantiated criticism as 0, Troll. Thus, I'll risk losing what little karma I've got left to once more mention my quite unique and totally non-commercial online graphic novel which IMNSHO mediates true hacker spirit much better than badly drawn bad jokes.

      - comic_not

      --
      Existence usually comes as a surprise (Idem)
    3. Re:This is odd by Lemmy+Caution · · Score: 2
      Your comic is really very, very good. I'm impressed.

      Sadly, just like very few people can appreciate truly elegant code or (something else that often gets neglected) well-architected software, I'm afraid that few people can appreciate good work in other domains, especially when appreciation takes effort. User Friendly is, to me, a mildly amusing piece of folk-art generated by the community which it serves. I don't think you could call it either a good comic or good comic art.

      I hope you print this on paper someday and get it distributed, to reach a wider audience.

    4. Re:This is odd by Hektor_Troy · · Score: 1

      "The Sixth Seal is a graphic novel drawn for mature readers. It contains strong language, full frontal nudity and other possibly distressing material."

      No doubt about it - you are a geek; no other kind of people I know of would use the above phrase as not only a warning but also as a teaser and commercial. Nice job! :-)

      --
      We do not live in the 21st century. We live in the 20 second century.
    5. Re:This is odd by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Oh holy fucking shit. You put your KARMA on the line? You brave, brave man. I salute you.

  18. Re:User Friendly Sucks It Hard by khuber · · Score: 0, Troll
    I don't see the appeal either. Talk about mediocre and unfunny. I wish they would have clearly marked this article as being about User Friendly so I could have skipped it. No, I didn't read the review.

    -Kevin

  19. Not Funny by omission9 · · Score: 1

    Yeah, I am pretty "geeky" I suppose you would say. In my opinion UserFriendly suffers from.......not being funny!! Not at all!! Yeah, I can appreciate net and linux jokes; when they are funny. Am I alone in this? Surely I cannot be the only intelligent person who thinks that the strip sucks?
    BTW, to even mention Bloom County in the same breath(no pun intended>:) as UserFriendly is desecrating the memory of a truly brilliant work.

    1. Re:Not Funny by jdh28 · · Score: 1

      I used to read Userfriendly religously every day. Then one day, I realised, that it actually wasn't funny. I think it must have been good, or I would never have started to read it; perhaps Illiad has used up all the good jokes, I don't know.

      This isn't a troll - this is exactly what happened to me.

      john

  20. Oh dear by Snootch · · Score: 2
    I log right on, expecting either praise for the book or some founded criticism based on the genre/execution, but what do I find? About 50% of the posts at the moment are just criticising Illiad's drawing style.
    1. This may seem obvious, but if you don't like it , don't read it.
    2. This is also, come to think of it, very obvious, but a comic strip doe not rely on the quality of the drawing (I like the simplistic style anyway), but the jokes. If you don't like the jokes, you have a valid complaint, go someplace else.. but don't flame about Illiad's drawing.
    1. Re:Oh dear by Osty · · Score: 2

      This is also, come to think of it, very obvious, but a comic strip doe not rely on the quality of the drawing (I like the simplistic style anyway), but the jokes. If you don't like the jokes, you have a valid complaint, go someplace else.. but don't flame about Illiad's drawing.

      When the jokes are stale, lame, or just plain awful (as UF has been for the past 3+ years), there's little left to keep a person interested but the art. And UF never had that, either. However, you're right. I don't like UF, and I don't read it. I prefer to waste my online time reading better strips, like Penny Arcade, Goats, Diesel Sweeties, 8-bit Theater, Sinfest, and way too many more to list here, all of which have (IMNSHO) better jokes, better storylines, better art, better attitudes, and better execution than UF. Sure, not all of those are daily strips, but some are. Sinfest is. Tatsuya Ishida is able to pump out teh funney (no, that's not misspelled) every day, with amazing art to go along with it. I would call T's art "simplistic", in that it's generally all various lines, with just enough shading to suggest backgrounds and such. Illiad's art, on the other hand, is what i would call sloppy.

    2. Re:Oh dear by nomadic · · Score: 2

      Also, most comics show a gradual progression of artistic ability; early Dilbert was kind of rough, but it got better as the comic matured. As far as I can tell, UF's art hasn't changed one iota. I mean, if he does this for a living now you'd think it would progress at least a little. Any charm the comic once had flew out the window when I saw ufmedia.com.

    3. Re:Oh dear by Snootch · · Score: 2

      This leads me to assume that you have never been through the UF archives - there is a definite progression from Illiad's early style to his current one, which IMHO is considerably less "rough" than the older ones. He settled on that for a reason, though - as Scott Adams himself says, simple drawings that just suggest surroundings are best. Anyway, disagree with the jokes if you wish, but I like 'em for a chucke in the morning :-)

  21. The REAL root of all evil is... by The+Pi-Guy · · Score: 1

    \\evil\c$ And on a WINDOWS SMB mount, too! :) --joshua

    1. Re:The REAL root of all evil is... by Darth+Hubris · · Score: 1

      HAH! You really won't like it when they go to Yukon!!! No more SMB for you!!!

      Make me Offtopic. Poof!

      --
      The party's over ... the drink ... and the luck ... ran out
  22. User Friendly by BitwizeGHC · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I'm not a big User Friendly fan either. The thing that bugs me most, though, is not the rushed art, lame jokes, constant rehash of the "yay Linux/boo Microsoft" theme, overuse of the word "geek", or the fact that many hackers think that vague scribble called Miranda is hot.

    No. What bothers me is that UF is now a commercial cash cow. As such, whatever quasi-rebellious, hackerly "edge" the strip may have had during its early days is now gone, and the strip now relentlessly panders to its readership, each joke carefully crafted to appeal to a market-demographic profile of the "typical geek". This is not the Illiad who brazenly stated that Microsoft products were three-coiled turds. This is the new, marketroid Illiad, determined to make his bland comic the perfect vector for sales pitches from large IT companies.

    Maybe that is why Illiad is so cruel to Stef... he's rebelling against his very nature.

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  23. Re:User Friendly by BitwizeGHC · · Score: 1

    And why yes, I do p1mp my own Webcomic in my sig right after that rant about UF. Guess I'm into a little marketing too. -_- Though at least I've been trying to improve as an artist over the past two years... :)

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  24. Fine, submit an article. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Really.

    It's a very new website! It's uneven and we're trying to improve it.

    Unless you don't like us 'cause the wrong joke fell on your head.. :)

    --perdida

    1. Re:Fine, submit an article. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think he said he doesn't like you because your shitty site sucks. Take the fucking thing off the net until it's decent, loser.

  25. My all time favorite. by Calle+Ballz · · Score: 2

    Oliver from Bloom County. He is the original cartoon hacker.

    1. Re:My all time favorite. by dillon_rinker · · Score: 1

      "Avast ye corporate swabs! Prepare to be boarded!"

  26. What's bad? by Kenshin · · Score: 2, Insightful

    What's bad?
    The fact that User Friendly has never actually made me laugh.

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    Does it make you happy you're so strange?

    1. Re:What's bad? by chegosaurus · · Score: 1

      I just looked at a few strips on the website. They sapped my will to live. Compared to this, Monty Python is funny.

  27. Amazon UK mess up... by JJGreenaway · · Score: 1

    NTK noticed this book at Amazon

    Surely Illiad could've come up with a better cover?...

  28. Misquote trivia.. by Ogerman · · Score: 3, Informative

    The quote that most people remember as "money is the root of all evil" is actually a pretty bad misquote from the Bible. The original quote is, "the love of money is the root of all kinds of evil." This of course, changes the meaning of what the original author said entirely, but it's amazing how often people get it wrong.

    1. Re:Misquote trivia.. by ryants · · Score: 1

      Uh... the "root of all evil" quote comes from the King James Version. Don't rely solely on the NIV for "original" Bible material.

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    2. Re:Misquote trivia.. by Malcontent · · Score: 2

      No real difference. You would not collect it if you did not love it. Ill give you a Virginia Wolf quote.
      "The dress in the closet belongs to the poor".

      If rich people didn't love money they would give the excess away. I figure just about anybody can lead a pretty good life on 1 million a year the rest belongs to the poor.

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    3. Re:Misquote trivia.. by wfaulk · · Score: 1

      There's a huge difference. The quote from the Bible (1 Timothy 6:10, BTW) does not claim that the mere existence of money is the (or a, depending on your translation) root of all evil, only that the love of it is. The fact that I need money as a tool to get by in the world is not a sin, but placing its acquisition above real goals is. It's kind of an extension of ``Thou shalt have no other gods before me''.

      This is in direct opposition to the current fad ``Prayer of Jabez'' bullshit that tries to show that one obscure passage amongst an assload of begats (1 Chronicles 4) states that it's okay to accumulate money for its own sake.

      <DISCLAIMER>I do not claim to be a Christian or a theologian, just a know-it-all.</DISCLAIMER>

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    4. Re:Misquote trivia.. by Malcontent · · Score: 2

      I don't think we disagree.
      Of course you need money to survive and of course that's not a sin. But after a point (I used a million a year) then it becomes silly. In your words if you have accumulated over a million then it's probably because you are valuing acquisition of that money over and above real goals.

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  29. Yep, a cash cow... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    I guess that's why they laid off all but three people a month or so ago - with all that cash, who needs employees?

  30. The Root of All Evil? by IGnatius+T+Foobar · · Score: 1, Redundant

    A book called The Root of All Evil?

    Didn't someone already write Bill Gates' biography a couple of years ago?

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    1. Re:The root of all evil? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      DOS is a gay OS, C:

  31. Proof that girls are root of all evil! by swordboy · · Score: 3, Funny

    Here it is!

    MONEY = SQRT(EVIL) (money is the root of all evil)
    GIRLS = TIME * MONEY (girls are time and money)
    TIME = MONEY (time is money)

    Therefore...

    GIRLS = MONEY * MONEY
    GIRLS = MONEY^2
    Substitute in the first equation...
    MONEY^2 = EVIL

    Therefore...

    GIRLS = EVIL

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    1. Re:Proof that girls are root of all evil! by JennyWL · · Score: 1

      Good for you. Now follow that line of thinking to its logical conclusion, and avoid girls like the plague. Leaves more for me...

  32. Re:User Friendly by Stavros42 · · Score: 1

    This is not the Illiad who brazenly stated that Microsoft products were three-coiled turds. This is the new, marketroid Illiad, determined to make his bland comic the perfect vector for sales pitches from large IT companies.

    I really don't think this is the case at all. Illiad says here that "The explicit rule is, the business side has *zero* impact on the cartoon strip. In fact, if you read the Investor FAQ, it reveals that I still draw pretty much anything I damn well please."

    This can be shown by the fact that Illiad also states that the CEO runs the business side (UFMedia), and he runs the content side (the cartoon strip). User Friendly is not a "commercial cash cow", Illiad is making a living out of what he does, and without letting business interests intrude on his readership's interests.

    I have been reading User Friendly for about a year and a half now, and I admit that when I was first introduced to it, I didn't find it all that hilarious. But then I read all the strips from day one (I wonder how many people on this board who have posted merely to say "UF sucks" have actually done that?) and in my opinion it's still as funny as it ever was. Anyone who doesn't like it is of course entitled to their opinion, but as an earlier poster pointed out, a large proportion of the criticisms on this board are to do with Illiad's drawing, which he makes fun of himself (see this strip and this one.)

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  33. [OT] Back in the Day [was Re:Never read it]. by Derwen · · Score: 2
    I, for one, am hiding behind my Hayes Micromodem //e at 300 baud.

    300 baud - luxury ;-)
    Until they lay 'phone cables up this way I continue to communicate with my ISP via smoke signals. I have a paraffin burner at the end of my RS232 giving nearly one bps - it took six months to download this page. I get my U/F via weekly carrier pigeon :-P

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  34. Silly game. by Slackcity · · Score: 1

    Why do people want to read jokes about their work?
    To remind themselves how silly this game is! One of my collegues commented one day on the effectively random stuff the hackers would say. It ocurred to me that it was the sentient equivalent of chewing one's leg off to get out of a trap.

    Mark.
    'I've run out of limbs but have to give four weeks notice. Good of sales to hand me another pre-fucked project.'

  35. What is with the cult of UF? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    I don't understand UF and its community at all. Its obvious the comic isn't funny. Its repetative, but that doesn't matter as the jokes aren't funny the first time either.

    Yet in all of the "official" press, either from ORA or from reviews like this, you'd think the man had written for Seinfeld.

    Why won't the official press just acknowledge that UF sucks and move on?

    The UF lovefest is just a circlejerk.

    1. Re:What is with the cult of UF? by CrazyBusError · · Score: 1

      Seinfeld? A program that, of course, is the height of comedy, is never repetetive and doesn't play on it's popularity to give up being funny and make money at all...

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  36. The root of all evil? by CAIMLAS · · Score: 2

    Don't you mean, "C:\"? I'm sure that's what I heard.

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  37. Women by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Time = Money
    Women = Money * Time
    Women = Money^2
    Money = sqrt(evil)
    Women = evil

  38. Re:User Friendly by Rogerborg · · Score: 2
    • What bothers me is that UF is now a commercial cash cow

    Not a very good one though, as they've just laid off a large chunk of their (bloated .com) staff. There's a rather pathetic begging letter on there recently asking UF readers to find them jobs.

    Incidentally (or otherwise), when I asked how I could explain to my HR department how all of the layoffs could be "senior" or "management" or "directors" without that necessarily being indicative of them being just another bunch of over-hyped under-skilled .gone wannabe's, I had my account summarily deleted for trolling. The question (a serious one, which they will be asked by potential employers) was never answered.

    Sure, the UF community is friendly. As long as you're utterly compliant with its smug and insular attitude, that is.

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