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NeuStar to Manage .US Registry
flatt writes: "The US Government picked NeuStar, the managers of the upcoming .biz registry, to manage the .us registry today. NeuStar has made a press release and there's an AP article over at Excite about it. Finally a country code that I'll register in." This has been brewing for a long time, and has been criticized as a giveaway.
-CT
These guys are cool!
What kind of hardware is this? Someone here know anything about these things?
Pedro Côrte-Real.
http://please.kug.us/
"The US Government picked NeuStar, the managers of the upcoming .biz registry, to manage the .us registry today."
.them TLD ?
So will there also be a
Let's just open up every single TLD to whoever wants to take it! No reason .edu should mean that it is a university, or that .org should be an organization, or that any of the TLDs should stay what they were meant for!
I can see it now. We are already having to fight over two TLD's (one that was squatted (.com) and one that was given to the wrong people (.co.hillsborough.fl.us). Now we are going to have to buy and maintain 17 seperate web addresses just to point them all to one server so that people can find us. Great! Can't wait!
I know this has been mentioned before, but what is the point of opening up the TLDs? Companies are just going to have to buy the ones (or sue to steal them back) that infringe upon them. So why not leave them alone?
Random Musings
I know that people (esp in the mainstream press) marvel at how global the Internet is, but the fact is that it is inherently biased towards people in the US. Personally, unless I have reason to think otherwise (e.g. oxford.edu, moscowballet.org, airfrance.com, etc) I (incorrectly) tend to assume that a domain is on my side of the pond (or Pacific, or Canadian or Mexican border). It strikes me as unfair that a business running in the UK realistcally has to grab both .co.uk and .com domains to be sure that they reach their (UK) customers while I could simply buy eds-taco-palace.com and everyone knows it's in the States.
On the gripping hand... if we are entering an era of U.S. hedgmony, perhaps this skewed view is appropriate. After all, if the Romans had the Internet, would they have confided themselves to a ".rmn" country code?
PS - Random thought - imagine IP addresses in Rome: ccv.xcv.xxx.ii. But then they'd have had to cross the Atlantic and conquer the Aztecs to get zero and make it work...
"Prepare for the worst - hope for the best."
I think this says it all:
If it's for-profit but free, you're not the customer -- you're the product (e.g., the Slashdot Beta's "audience").
Hopefully one of these shared technical developments will be the reuse of the eXtensible Registry Protocol (XRP), which is defined as a profile for the Internet-standard BEEP framework. NeuStar used hardened implementations of the BEEP framework, called "Beepcore," that my former employer Invisible Worlds developed under contract.
I don't know of any open source implementations for XRP, but these Beepcore implementations are available as free software under a BSD-style license at Beepcore.org.
............ kris
Kris Magnusson
(formerly marketing and developer relations manager for Invisible Worlds)
"I thought I could organize freedom. How Scandinavian of me."
The main reasons I've really liked the .us domain is 1) it's free; and 2) assignment of domain names is completely local and decentralized. The guy in charge of administering my records lives here in the same town as I, and has been real quick about changin ip associations when I've needed to do so (like 2-hour turnaround). I've been using my domain (bullcreek.austin.tx.us -- i'm not an anonymous coward, I just don't like registering) for many years now. Not sure I like the idea of paying 5 bucks for what has been free, and turning over admin to some faceless corporation that's *very* likely to be less responsive than what I've been used to.
I was always under the impression that the country TLD's were meant to be used for sites that had geography-specific information. Such as city government sites, or a store that is in one city. The example "clothingstore.los-angeles.ca.us" given was a good example, but now they want to make it "clothingstore.us"? Doesn't that pretty much defeat the point?
.com's :)
Another point to consider is who can buy these. Will it be US people only or will it be like cc, tv, to, etc which will sell to anyone?
On a third note, do I care? I already have a couple
...the number of stupid webpages sporting american flags and those silly "osama bin laden: wanted dead or alive" posters is expected to skyrocket.
My submission (early yesterday) had a better title:
.US
All Your Domain Are Belong to
It's a sign that Network "Solutions" won't be fucking it up anymore. Which is to say, a good sign!
"The business of America is business."
--Calvin Coolidge, Thirtieth President, 1923-1929
... of course, right after his terms were up, the business of America was more along the lines of eating shoe lint and wallpapering the outhouse with stock certificates.
Napster-to-go says "Fill and refill your compatible MP3 player", which is a lie. It's not MP3. It's WMA with DRM.
Country code suffixes such as ".fr" for France have been sources of national pride worldwide, but in the United States it is the forgotten stepchild compared with ".com."
It's always annoyed me how the world seems to use country codes for it's TLD's, and then the US has some other TLDs that is just uses.
For example, when shopping online I want to know if a company will ship to the UK. If it is a .co.uk company I can be sure it will. If it is a .com, it might or might not.
Essentially it seems logical for organisations to just register the TLDs for the countries in which they operate/are registered, and for the .com TLD to be scrapped (Although this would never happen).
Oh, I'd scrap .edu too. .ac.us would be a fine replacement.
-- Mike
Since most countries are charging for domains in their TLD the domain operator usually sees it as a profit center, and with the exception of the few remaining communist countries - and maybe some of them, too - I suspect you can get a registration in just about any country's tld whether or not you live there.
Paul Robinson <Postmaster@paul.washington.dc.us>
The lessons of history teach us - if they teach us anything - that nobody learns the lessons that history teaches us.
How is this "new" domain extension registry going to differ from all the rest? Are trademark holders once again going to get first shot? Are we private citizens going to be subject to litigation by the corporate types that want to snatch our domain names away from us? I happen to share a surname with a very large brokerage house that has seen fit to register just about every iteration of the name I can think of without stretching it to an ungodly number of characters. Is this just going to be another domain extension where they'll snap up all the useful variations of our name?
They'll screw.us !
geeks.r.us
babes.r.us
trolls.r.us
lawsuits.r.us
etc...
Looks like Lockheed Martin won more than the joint strike fighter. They're the latest defense contractor to have - yes - their very own top level domain!
.us registration and give it to ya!
You have to admit. Owning a TLD is cooler than being a HoJo's on the Ohio Turnpike complete with pay toilets. Not only do you sell things that cost you nothing to make (more profitable than selling slightly used and still glowing land in Nevada), but it gives you that Intellectual Property high that makes you the rage at all the beltway cocktail parties.
Imagine all the hookups and special deals Jeff Ganek will be doing for his corporate friends - couldn't get mycompany.com because some little squat company beat you to the Internet? No problem... we'll yank their
So congratulations to our ever-so-savvy beltway lobbyists. Let's give the boys at Neustar a motto that reflects their vision:
Neustar: The Internet's Pay Toilet.
I thought that there was no .us for the same reason that British postage stamps don't mention the UK anywhere... When you're the first to do something, you don't have to identify yourself.
In theory, com/net/org/edu/info/biz are generic TLDs not reserved for the US or any other country. There are .com registrars in other countries. As far as I know, .gov and .mil are reserved for the US government and military, and .int is only for organizations established by international treaty.
.us is it. It's a country code TLD just like .fr or .au, and each country is free to subdivide however they please.
Why does the US get its own Top Level Domain? We do;
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i'm sorry - did you ever study your internet history? it was Verisign's ever since Verisign bought Network Solutions.
.US domain), and managed to sweet-talk their way into keeping control over what became the big moneymakers. DoC never got on the ball to figure out what to do with the .US domain since everything else was a mess, and so it sat .. Verisign put in a bid, but didn't really care for the control of it and had been looking to unload it since they realized they had to manage it.
Network Solutions was awarded a government grant and had sole responsibility over all domains until the government got a clue as to what people were complaining about and started doing their job of regulation (something that should have been done around oh say '92) - under that contract Network Solutions (transferred to Verisign who bought out NSI) had responsibility for all those domains until the contract expired in '99 (including the
.US has been the bastard child TLD of the internet trying desparately to hold on to the idea of orderly conduct,
You can't be serious! That's like saying if the company's name is Jones, they have to buy every address with the word "jones" in it. What about people who have the last name "Jones" or have some other legitimate reason for wanting a site named "Jones" or "Acme"??? (Or even ihateacme.com--what, are people who have a reason to hate a company not allowed to speak?)
The only way companies need to protect their names on the internet is if someone is attempting to misrepresent themselves as being the company or agents of the company. That is the reason tradmarks were created. If a company's site is acme.com, and someone else owns acme.us or acme.org, the Acme company still doesn't have a real reason to be threated by those websites unless they claim to be part of the Acme company!
It's an overlaping sort of thing
But what I am asking is why is .US going to be a *top level* domain... shouldn't the US be like the others, and get .co.us, .org.us and .net.us?
.us domains were almost entirely divided into states, and further divided for schools, government agencies, libraries, etc. Example: gladstone.k12.or.us is my school district, and clackamas.cc.or.us is the local community college, and linas.lincc.lib.or.us is the county library system's online card catalog (with telnet access, w00t). Try going to http://www.state.XX.us/ where XX is any state's two-letter postal code.
.us domain) has decided to open up the domain to additional registrations, and it looks like they're not going to require .com.us, .org.us etc. Personally, I'd rather they did, but it's up to them.
.co.uk or .co.jp - take a look at the .to, .tv, .nu and .cx domains for a few examples.
It's up to each country what to do with their TLD. Until now,
The US Department of Commerce (the agency responsible for the
By the way, most countries don't require
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