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How to Navigate a Spacecraft to Mars

Posted by Hemos on from the fly-me-to-the-moon dept.

EccentricAnomaly writes "JPL has an article on how to design trajectories to Mars with the porkchop plot. They use an interesting analogy between reading these plots and divining the future from animal entrails. JPL also has the most excellent Basics of Spaceflight, which is an easy to understand tutorial on how to explore deep space."

67 comments

  1. Step one of plotting a trajectory to Mars by kfg · · Score: 5, Funny

    Make sure everyone is using the SAME friggin' system of units.

    KFG

    1. Re:Step one of plotting a trajectory to Mars by npietraniec · · Score: 1

      You sir, took the words right out of my mouth.

  2. Meat Muppets by satanami69 · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    Well, I guess it'd put a different spin on pigs in space.

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  3. Ah, I see. . . by kfg · · Score: 1

    the "rocket scientists" are out in force tonight.

    KFG

  4. Oh no! by snake_dad · · Score: 1, Funny

    You know that the best vacation destinations always lose their attraction when people start publishing travelguides and maps and stuff... :-/

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  5. Basics of Space Flight [Hollywood version] by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny
    • You need continuous thrust. Relying on Newton's 1st law to travel is for losers.
    • Always point toward your goal. Don't do a 180 and decelerate with your main engine, no need to match speeds.
    • Asteroid fields should look as dense as a forest, even if in reality asteroids rarely come within a mile of each other.
    • Shadows in space aren't totally black, because then we can't see.
    • Show stars through windows of well-lit spaceship rooms, because they're cool.
    • A gravity assist with the Sun will help you fly much faster.
    • Crescents of close bodies don't need to be oriented in the same way (oops, slashdot space logo?)
    1. Re:Basics of Space Flight [Hollywood version] by DNS-and-BIND · · Score: 4, Funny
      Don't forget:

      • All objects in space make whooshing sounds or deep, rumbling sounds as they pass by.
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  6. Re:Stephen King, author, dead at age 54 by Talez · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    And in other news... Cesium(sp?) created by those guys at MIT was just released... Can you at least find supporting evidence (and no, those crackpots that whinge on talkback radio arent evidence) before you post something so final.

    Talez

  7. gravity assist finally explained by Gunstick · · Score: 1

    This is the best explanation of swingby manoever or gravity assist I have seen.
    And generally well done.

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    Atari rules... ermm... ruled.
    1. Re:gravity assist finally explained by esonik · · Score: 1
      While the "Basics of Spaceflight" page is really nice, the "porkchop" page is quite lame - it wastes 5 pages to convince people that porkchop plots are nice and important tools, but when they show one of the plots on page 2 (!) they don't even explain what one can see there. So I'll try to do it myself:
      • The plot is for the two 2005 Earth-to-Mars transfer opportunities, using ballistic transfer (i.e. no propulsion during the flight except for orbital departure/insertion)
      • The horizontal axis is obviously the launch time from Earth, while the vertical axis is arrival time on Mars.
      • The two possible "windows" to Mars for 2005 seem to be the centers of the two blue coutour plots (if we only knew what the blue "C3L" lines mean!).
      • The red lines seem to be lines of constant travel time (labelled "TTIME"), so the lower window is for the shorter route (200 days TTIME as opposed to 400 days TTIME).

      The remaining questions are: What are the blue lines ? (very essential as they define the "windows". Maybe arrival velocity?) What are the magenta and green lines ?
    2. Re:gravity assist finally explained by Parys · · Score: 1

      > if we only knew what the blue "C3L" lines mean!

      C3L is the specific energy needed at launch to enter the transfer orbit from earth orbit. It's the square of the delta-V, I believe, and its a common number used to select a launch vehicle. Given a certain mass that you want to insert into Mars orbit, a Delta rocket, for example, would only provide a certain amount of C3, and if that isn't sufficient according to the porkchop plots, it's a no-go.

      The reason you have two local minimums on the plot is because one set is for a Type I orbit, traveling less than 180 degrees in the transfer orbit, and a Type II, traveling between 180 and 360 degrees.

    3. Re:gravity assist finally explained by Parys · · Score: 1

      OK, another reply to same parent. This page gives a pretty good explanation of the equations and calculations for the hyperbolic escape orbit.

  8. Re:Let me get this straight... by Hektor_Troy · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    good - a job well done.

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  9. Re:Let me get this straight... by Lars+T. · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    You want to talk war, and ignore the god of war, Mars? No wonder you're not getting anywhere.

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    Lars T.

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  10. really? by Nevrar · · Score: 1

    bah... all you need is a computer called HAL - he does it all for you :)

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    Nevrar
  11. Sounds like software development to me by ColaMan · · Score: 5, Funny
    Let's look at the similarities ...

    It costs a shitload.

    You normally have a few earlier versions that didn't perform to plan.

    You need to aim at a moving target that won't be there for two years, and of course you're own platform is moving as well.

    Not forgetting that if you're careless and not do your sums right , you'll crash and burn spectacularly and look like an idiot in front of the rest of the world.

    The major difference is of course (drumroll , please)

    In Space, no-one can hear your FUD.

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    You are in a twisty maze of processor lines, all alike.
    There is a lot of hype here.
  12. Piiiiiiiigs iiiiiiiinnn spaaaccce by ZaneMcAuley · · Score: 1

    Set pork chops to stun

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  13. Ah, time, time... by imipak · · Score: 2

    It's a funny thing, I wget'ed (wgot?) that tutorial months ago... "Aha! At last a way to wile away the long gaps between new issues of TVGoHome - I'll teach myself orbital mechanics! And there it sits, unread, along with everything else I mirrored for offline reading... unread whilst I just check Slashdot one more time... (Those links probably won't work unless I'm online. Goddam these UK phone charges... )

  14. Deep Space Tutorial by zdzichu · · Score: 1

    >"which is an easy to understand tutorial on how to
    >explore deep space."

    every scout's need?

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    :wq
  15. Rocket Scientists by Alien54 · · Score: 2
    Since we're going to start having amatuer rocket scientists traveling into space ...

    It looks like JPL is helping people figure out how to get to mars on thier own. Tragically, I can see the fruit cakes now.

    I imagine it won't be so bad, so long as they leave a trail of bread crumbs,p.;-)

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  16. Brave man... by No+Such+Agency · · Score: 4, Funny

    Not only did you link to your home box on Slashdot (as we know, infamous for bringing even the largest websites to their knees), but now everybody knows your IP address too. That takes guts. Of course, if you're not online all the time, you'll be of much less interest to jerkwad scr1pt k1dd13z who want to run their personal pr0n site off your HD... Cheers!

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    1. Re:Brave man... by imipak · · Score: 2

      heh! I didn't think of that... but, just to compound the risk - I'm pretty confident my properly secured NT4 box can take the heat. No, really, I am! OK, admittedly, I'm running low on medication, but still...

    2. Re:Brave man... by imipak · · Score: 2
      Wow, lotsa hits in fact... I'm surprised!


      andrew@INEGO% tail -100 access_log |grep -v
      192.168.0|awk '{print $1}'|sort|uniq
      127.0.0.1
      130.215.233.215
      160.36.81.191
      192.156.13.35
      192.156.13.36
      213.89.4.32
      216.165.42.86
      216.170.210.56
      61.136.15.233

      And anyway, skipt |1dd135?? On Slashdot??? Surely not...

  17. Manned by mice? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I wonder if this mission will be manned by mice?

  18. Some more... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Always show stars whizzing by the windows, even if you are going at slow speeds in a straight line [Galactica Vipers]

    If you are out in zero pressure, you will scream and your eyes will look like those of cartoon characters [Total Recall]

    If you want, open up the hatch on your spaceship, pop your head out, and get some fresh air [Message from Space]

  19. Mmmm .... by gcondon · · Score: 0, Redundant

    Pork Chops!

  20. RE: Earlier post. by fshalor · · Score: 1

    And this follows nasa releasing this stuff s little while ago. Are these guys (JPL and NASA) trying to get us to do their jobs for them? (By what else...sending pigs to mars! Pun intended.) Or is this just them clearing out old stuff to make way for new stuff. My bet is their magnetic tape media is getting unstable and they're too ashamed to admit it. Their sending it out to the world to let us mirror is in lots of places, under the allusion that it's actually worth something. It would be interesting though, to spend some time checking through these programs and tutorials to see if problems which led to the Challanger disater are apparent. Freynman said that the software development at JPL and NASA was tops, but he was comparing it to other parts of the organizations which were using orings for expansion joints which were designed as compression fittings. And other such problems. -=fshalor

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  21. Use Castors! by JabberWokky · · Score: 2
    I've always found that having a genius level set of twins, a cantankerous grandmother who writes Space Opera and a beset upon set of parents trying to raise a young child is a great way to get to mars. Sure, the bikes won't turn a profit post-tariff, but the flatcats will make serious money out in the belt.

    Failing that, just standing on the ground and looking up and wishing really hard sometimes works. You get scantily clad Martian princeses that way, too!

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    Evan "going through and rereading all his Trek novels, but may take a Barsoomian vacation for a bit" E.

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  22. Orbiter Simulator. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative
    There's a great space-dynamics simulator called Orbiter.

    You can really get the feel for what's involved in plotting trajectories and getting to the right orbit. It's really good.

    And, it's free! (beer)

  23. Stone family by rossdee · · Score: 2

    IIRC they used Hazel's figures, as hers were the median...

    Would have been interesting if they had used Meade's...

    1. Re:Stone family by JabberWokky · · Score: 2
      Bless you... I've been making classic SF references (hint: I don't consider "Star Wars" classic SF) for a long long time on Slashdot - it used to be recognized and replied to way back when (before the great user purge), but hasn't in *years*.

      Ah, the glories of riding up on a tower of flame from your backyard, slipstick in one hand, the future ahead. It's a damn shame that we socialized space. It'll be there, though... it's been waiting for quite awhile.

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  24. Can you identify the variables? by ChrisCampbell47 · · Score: 1
    On the porkchop plot, according to the legend at the top, the various curves are plots of the variables:
    • C3L
    • TTIME
    • SEP
    • Ls
    Can anyone tell us what those mean? Even just a few words that we can then go google. The body of the article mentioned a few things (like time-of-day orbital plane at Mars) but didn't explicitly correlate those ideas to the variable names.
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    1. Re:Can you identify the variables? by EccentricAnomaly · · Score: 1

      C3L = C3 of Launch... C3 is (2*(Kinetic_energy/mass))^2 (or if you know orbit mechanics V-Infinity^2)

      TTIME = Transfer Time (days)... that is, how long it take to get to Mars

      SEP = Sun-Earth-Probe angle... that is, the angle on the corner of the triangle made by Sun-Earth-Probe... when this angle is too small you can't get a signal from the probe because of the noise from the Sun

      Ls --- I'm not sure on this one, it seems to be some sort of Launch angle

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    2. Re:Can you identify the variables? by ChrisCampbell47 · · Score: 1
      [other variables]

      Perfect! Thanks!

      Ls --- I'm not sure on this one, it seems to be some sort of Launch angle

      OK, with that hint I was able to figure it out. It's Earth-Sun-Mars angle, or, effectively, how far Mars is from Earth:

      1. Using a solar system simulator, I find that there is a Mars/Earth conjuction around 05-Nov-2005 (hmmm, 4 years from today) and around 25-Dec-2007 (hmmm, Christmas) -- those two dates are 2 years and 50 days apart, or 780 days.
      2. During that period, these two planets will swing through 360 degrees of Earth-Sun-Mars angle.
      3. Or, 180 degrees takes 390 days.
      4. Now, looking at the plot, the 0 Ls mark is at about 22-Jan-2006, and the 180 Ls mark is at about 10-Feb-2007. That's 384 days.
      Off by 1.5% just taking a guess and eyeballing the chart. Sounds like a confirmation to me :)

      Right?

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