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HP Calculator Department Closing

Beans writes "Today is a sad day for the engineering calculator world. HP calculator department is closing. www.calc.org has the scoop. Leaving employees just announced it on comp.sys.hp48. You can check google groups for the original posts."

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  1. Re:?Lives Notation Polish Reversed? by mrpotato · · Score: 3, Informative

    no need to press enter afther 'This', and you need just 2 '+'.

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  2. Look at ticalc.org for TI hacks by ColGraff · · Score: 3, Informative

    There are all sorts of hacks you can do to a TI graphic calc, including the installation of backlights, remote controls, overlocking, memory expansions, and homemade link cables. I don't think we need complain about the lack of hackable calcs, even though HP is gone.

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  3. HP and my 11c by PhracturedBlue · · Score: 3, Informative

    My history with HP...
    I've been using my 11c since around 1987 (I actually got a second one in 1989, but it croaked about two years ago). It's been my favorite calculator since I got it. I've owned lots of calculators, including a casio 8700g, a TI-89, and my current HP48-gx. They're all fine, but I use my 11c more than anything else (I can do almost everything faster with it). Without any text entry/dispaly, it can do most everything I require on a daily basis; it can be programmed (203 steps, 4-level subroutine depth) to do more complex tasks, has more storage than I normally need (21 locations). It doesn't look fancy (no LCD matrix), so it could fool any of my math teachers into thinking it was an 'ordinary' calculator (now remember this was '87, and it had already been out for 6 years). It is by far and away the most useful single (i.e. never replaced) piece of electronics that I use on a daily basis. HP you have served me well, and will be missed (from the calculator business). I don't know what I will do when this HP-11 dies. Maybe I should keep a lookout on ebay.
    A great resource on older HP calculators can be found at: http://www.hpmuseum.org

  4. Re:= key same as enter by furboo · · Score: 3, Informative

    Common TI misconception. RPN also eliminates the need for parens.

    Try (5 + 3) * (6 + 1).

    TI: 5 + 3 = * ( 6 + 1 ) =
    HP: 5 E 3 + 6 E 1 + *

    Assuming my TI keystrokes are correct (I haven't
    used one for 20 years), that's two less keystrokes
    for this simple example.

  5. This article may be misleading by rechlin · · Score: 5, Informative

    I run hpcalc.org and would like to clarify this article.

    HP is not ceasing the production of calculators. Instead, HP has shut down the department that develops new calculators.

    This is nothing unusual. In the mid-1990's, HP already effectively shut down calculator development for several years.

    The manufacture of calculators is completely separate from the development, and production will continue.

  6. Re:Marketing part of the problem by OmegaDan · · Score: 3, Informative

    Another problem -- in grade school we used scientific calculators, high school, graphing calculators ...

    Then you get to college and their so afraid people will cheat (by storing notes in their calculators) -- its no calculators for most classes -- and when they're absoultley necessary -- a shitty scientific is allowed

    This is how it is at UCR atleast ... I hope its different somewhere else :) I've often wondered -- when there would be an emergency engineering situation where neither calculators nor books are avaliable (a situation that coresponds to testing).

  7. hang on a minute... by jcr · · Score: 3, Informative

    According to hpcalc.org, it's the *Australian* HP calculator group that's closing. Is that the entirety of HP's calculator development operation?

    IIRC, the HP-41 was developed at a facility in Oregon. Did they move the whole group to Australia?

    Anyone from HP available to comment, please?

    -jcr

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  8. HP-41CV Rules by rossz · · Score: 3, Informative

    I still have my HP-41CV. I've had it since HP first released it. This little baby was THE calculator in its time. I went so far as to do assembly language programming on it (required special hardware). My 41 still sits on my desk for whenever I need to do some quick math.

    Recently, I needed to buy a calculator for my daughter. The school specified a certain TI model. So I bought her a Hewlett-Packard calculator. I refuse to let the school dictate what companies I will do business with. Besides, TI calculators are junk.

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  9. Re:Its worth noting... by kelv · · Score: 3, Informative
    This completely misses the beauty of using a stack/RPN based system. The more complex the equations you have to deal with the more you appreicate RPN.

    With RPN you will never have to use bracketed notation. The stack can very easily take care of all of that. You simply work across the rows of fractions and functions, nomatter how complex of bracketed it might be to write down. This is the beauty of RPN.

    It just happen that it maps across to hardware and a stack much easier than any other system and that's why HP orignally went with RPN.

  10. Re:Quick... which one do I buy? by jrcamp · · Score: 3, Informative
    Well, I don't know much about the 49, except that it doesn't have an IR port, which sucks if you want to trade stuff with somebody. Plus it's a little bit more expensive than the older models.

    48GX - IR and a card slots (to add memory, or buy cards with things such as chemistry, etc.)

    48G+ - Same as GX, but cheaper but no card slot. Best bet for just about anybody since it's only $83.

    Check out this online reseller. It's the cheapest I've found when I briefly looked around. It's where I bought my HPGX 4 years ago for $213. It's amazing how prices have gone down.

  11. Re:I wonder if a palm would be a good replacement by call+-151 · · Score: 3, Informative
    There are some reasonable Palm apps for RPN calculators:
    • RPN 2.46 is a freeware RPN calc for PalmOS
    • MathU from creativecreek.com is a $20 program which is basically an HP 15C emulator
    • Financial calculator from landware.com is a $30 calc app that has the financial stuff built-in from the 12C built-in as well
    • RPN an $18 shareware RPN calculator for Palm with scripting and nice features as well

    There is a comparison page on geekazoid about various Palm calculators, RPN and otherwise.

    It should be a good indication of the excellent design and utilty of the HP calculators that it has been so imitated... Of course, some of that has to do with the sturdy hardware- it is quite remarkable what can be done to an HP calc and still have it work perfectly...

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  12. Re:Quick... which one do I buy? by artemis67 · · Score: 3, Informative

    You can breathe easy... HP calculators aren't going away, just their development team. Production of the existing line is apparently going to carry on for some time.

  13. Re:Waitaminnit... by Detritus · · Score: 3, Informative
    HP calculator development group was at Corvallis. I believe they developed everything from the HP-35 to the HP-48GX. It was shut down after the HP-48GX. A new calculator operation was started in Singapore, it didn't last very long. Later, HP started a new calculator operation in Australia. That is the group that developed the HP-49 and is now being disbanded.

    HP is going to hell in a handbasket. They have sold or spun off all of the divisions that made HP's reputation in the first place.

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