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God's Debris

Thank reader mblumber for this review of Scott Adams's God's Debris, newly republished in hardcover after starting out life a few years ago as an e-book. For those who've never seen Adam's serious side, this is an interesting introduction. God's Debris author Scott Adams pages 128 publisher Andrew McMeel, Publishers rating 9 reviewer mblumber ISBN 0740721909 summary An existential thought experiment in the form of a dialogue.

I like reading books that make me think, but not in the same way that I think when I'm at work or doing homework. When reading for pleasure, I want something that at first glance is so strange it's absurd, but at closer examination makes a tremendous amount of sense. That depth is the essence of Scott Adams' God's Debris, A Thought Experiment.

Adams is not known for writing super-intelligent commentaries on life, at least ones without a punchline or visual gag. Creator of Dilbert, his writing to this point has focused upon the world of cubicles and shifting organizational charts where engineers and management ('induhviduals' as he often calls them) square off in battles where the engineers are right and management is wrong. Very straightforward, enjoyable reading, but nothing compared to his latest work.

God's Debris was first published in May of 1999 as an e-book. It is sold by Digital Owl and can be purchased as bits for $4.95 or in hardcover wherever books are sold. The story focuses on both the physical laws of nature (relativity, gravity, the origin of the universe) and the psychology behind religion. The story is told by a fairly educated narrator talking to an unseen second character who seems to hold a deep understanding of the universe. As I read more, I found my own questions being raised by the narrator, and addressed by the other character. This arrangement makes for a very strange read, but the unusual format enhances the overall reading experience.

This book second guesses everything one learns in school, and comes close to succeeding. I cannot think of a single statement in the book that can be proven incorrect. To a college-educated reader like me, some of the assertions may seem totally ridiculous -- the problem is that they make just as much sense as Einstein's relativistic physics. In the introduction to the book, Adams observes the fact that ' ... the simplest explanation usually sounds right and is far more convincing than any complicated explanation could hope to be.'

The protagonist makes some very peculiar assertions throughout; My favorite is a statement he makes about the true nature of gravity, specifically that it is fueled by probability. The idea his advances is that all matter is constantly switching in and out of existence, and that is how objects move. The reason that matter appears to be attracted to other matter is that, according to the rules of probability, each piece of matter will inherently appear closer to massive objects the next time it comes back into existence. If you didn't understand that, and you'd like to, then you should read the book.

If you are a religious person, I can assure that this book will be disturbing. Although not told from an atheist point of view, the protagonist rejects the traditional view of religion. There are references to religious beliefs as 'delusions' only intended to allow the less-enlightened to live in relative peace in a world which has little. Taken as a whole, the views expressed can best be summarized ala Jesse Ventura, that 'organized religion is a crutch for the weak-minded.'

I'm purposely avoiding going into detail about the contents of the book. This is not only because a small piece doesn't make sense by itself, but also because most of the fun is in the discovery. Reading this book, you feel as if you are the first and only person to truly understand the world. I wouldn't want to spoil that for you. It's only 132 pages, broken up into very short chapters, and it can be read on your lunch break. I highly recommend it.

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  1. Organised religion quote by Grab · · Score: 4, Informative

    Jesse Ventura rephrased that from Karl Marx, who said that "religion is the opiate of the people".

    Grab.

    1. Re:Organised religion quote by Ryandav · · Score: 2, Informative

      i thought it was "revolution is the opiate of the masses"...

      ?

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    2. Re:Organised religion quote by Marasmus · · Score: 3, Informative
      It is also derived from a quote from Sigmund Freud:
      Religion is an attempt to get control over the sensory world, in which we are placed, by means of the wish-world, which we have developed inside us as a result of biological and psychological necessities. But it cannot achieve its end. Its doctrines carry with them the stamp of the times in which they originated, the ignorant childhood days of the human race. Its consolations deserve no trust. Experience teaches us that the world is not a nursery. The ethical commands, to which religion seeks to lend its weight, require some other foundations instead, for human society cannot do without them, and it is dangerous to link up obedience to them with religious belief. If one attempts to assign to religion its place in man's evolution, it seems not so much to be a lasting acquisition, as a parallel to the neurosis which the civilized individual must pass through on his way from childhood to maturity.
      "Moses and Monotheism", 1932
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    3. Re:Organised religion quote by shaum · · Score: 2, Informative
      i thought it was "revolution is the opiate of the masses"...
      No.

      It's worth pointing out that some of the meaning of the original quote has been lost. In Marx's day, "opiate" didn't mean "addictive recreational drug"; it meant "powerful, potentially harmful painkiller".

      Put another way, Marx saw capitalism as a disorder for which religion was a dangerous, limited remedy, and communist revolution the cure.

      Yecchhh, I'm actually defending Marx. I'm going to go take a shower now...

    4. Re:Organised religion quote by Shafalus · · Score: 2, Informative
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  2. Re:Adams is smug by Maryck · · Score: 2, Informative

    I haven't read The Dilbert Future, so I can't comment on it, but I did read God's Debris and did not find it overly smug or anything. Adams actually prefaces the book with some comments saying that he in no way claims that the views expressed in the book are the truth or even necessarily what he believes; his primary intent in the book is just to get your mind moving...I think he even refers to the book as a thought experiment. And he does a very good job accomplishing that. Do his arguments hold up to strong discussion? Not really, but at least they provoke the discussion.

    -Mike Wolf

  3. Re:it was worth a few bucks to read it, but... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    I don't have an account, so I'll just go on as anonymous coward.. hahaha
    but anywayz, if that didn't blow your mind (not that i've read this book), take a read at 'The Elegant Universe' by Brian Greene. Its about superstring theory and multidimensional space-fabric.

    If you can comprehend the possiblity of 10 space and 1 time dimension as a start... then this is your book!

    and no, i have no financial gain by endorsing this book, its just the greatest thing since 'A brief history of time' by Stephen Hawking

  4. And if that's not enough Scott Adams for you... by Snowfox · · Score: 3, Informative
    ...here's Plop, an experimental comic by Scott.

    It's bad, but bad enough to be funny, I guess. Or maybe not.

  5. Re:A crutch for the weak-minded? by Hiro+Antagonist · · Score: 3, Informative
    You have committed a logical fallacy known as argumentum ad verecundiam, or appeal to authority; in this case. The individuals listed may be notable historical figures, but they have as much an expert opinion on "God" as George Washington would on fast-breeder nuclear reactors.

    The other thing is that several of the individuals you listed are either deists (essentially agnostics; believing in a deity, but not necessarily the christian one), or atheists. Here's a few quotes for you:

    Thomas Jefferson:
    Millions of innocent men, women and children, since the introduction of Christianity, have been burnt, tortured, fined and imprisoned; yet we have not advanced one inch towards uniformity.
    -- Thomas Jefferson, Notes on Virginia, 1782.

    Question with boldness even the existence of a god; because if there be one he must approve of the homage of reason more than that of blindfolded fear.
    -- Thomas Jefferson, Letter to Peter Carr, August 10, 1787

    History, I believe, furnishes no example of a priest-ridden people maintaining a free civil government. This marks the lowest grade of ignorance of which their civil as well as religious leaders will always avail themselves for their own purposes.
    -- Thomas Jefferson to Alexander von Humboldt, Dec. 6, 1813.
    Benjamin Franklin:
    "I wish it (Christianity) were more productive of good works ... I mean real good works ... not holy-day keeping, sermon-hearing ... or making long prayers, filled with flatteries and compliments despised by wise men, and much less capable of pleasing the Deity.
    -- Benjamin Franklin [Works, Vol. VII, p. 75]

    Albert Einstein:
    I cannot imagine a God who rewards and punishes the objects of his creation, whose purposes are modeled after our own -- a God, in short, who is but a reflection of human frailty. Neither can I believe that the individual survives the death of his body, although feeble souls harbor such thoughts through fear or ridiculous egotisms.
    -- Albert Einstein, obituary in New York Times, 19 April 1955.

    Scientific research is based on the idea that everything that takes place is determined by laws of nature, and therefore this holds for the action of people. For this reason, a research scientist will hardly be inclined to believe that events could be influenced by a prayer, i.e. by a wish addressed to a Supernatural Being.
    -- Albert Einstein, 1936, responding to a child who wrote and asked if scientists pray.

    It was, of course, a lie what you read about my religious convictions, a lie which is being systematically repeated. I do not believe in a personal God and I have never denied this but have expressed it clearly. If something is in me which can be called religious then it is the unbounded admiration for the structure of the world so far as our science can reveal it.
    -- Albert Einstein, 1954, from Albert Einstein: The Human Side.
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  6. The format's been done by Lothar+0 · · Score: 2, Informative

    Plato used the format of a somewhat-enlightened person vs. very enlightened person conversation in The Republic, which formed at least part of the basis of the Heglian dialect (thesis-antithesis-synthesis).

    Scott's doing nothing new format-wise, but I'd be interested in what he has to say. Much of it sounds like the stuff he wrote towards the end of The Dilbert Principle

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  7. Re:Science Religion by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    > No true scientist would say he has a theorem (A->B) that is absolutely true. He can say its true based on the observance of the 5 senses and is currently repeatable.

    A theorem is ALWAYS ABSOLUTELY TRUE coz it's nothing more than a chain of logical deductions establishing the truth value of a statement (i'm meaning the logical truth not the "philosophical" one.. ) in regards to a given set of "basical" (primitive) statements (the hypothesis), whose truth value is considered unambiguous for the scope of this reasoning.

    Maybe you'r confusing THEOREM whith THEORY. The main difference between them is that the THEORY tries to explain some thing happening into the real word (and therefore the set of initial conditions can not be controlled/known @ 100% and the observability is limited by our "5 senses" as you could say) whereas the THEOREM is an abstract reasoning where one can control/set ALL the parameters.

    The main consequence is that a theory HAS to be refutable in order to be considered a scientific theory..