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AMD Roadmap for Coming Year and Beyond
nexex writes: "With a new year comes new products, and AMD certainly has some new toys for us to drool over. The first of 2002 will see the release of "Thoroughbred," a version of the Athlon XP chip made on the more advanced 130-nanometer manufacturing process. The chip will cover 80 square millimeters in area, or 65 percent of the space of the "Northwood" Pentium 4 coming from Intel in early January. That chip measures 116 square millimeters, according to AMD estimates.
For more, including info on Clawhammer, Sledgehammer, and all the Intel bashing you can handle, see here." I hope they don't really mean that "these new chips will also consume less heat than current AMD notebooks chips."
Hrm, the third paragraph is an intresting one. "Instead of a (Microsoft-Intel) duopoly, we are going to have a holy trinity," he said.
:P
I guess we know where AMD stands with regards to Linux
autopr0n is like, down and stuff.
"At the end of the day, we need to get a Compaq, Dell or HP," he said. "IBM is going to be tough."
On the consumer desktops and notebooks it will be hard for AMD to displace Intel. The "Oh it must be faster it says so" mantra will always be a key selling point in the retail world. The server side will be interesting with promise of less heat, smaller size and 64-bit application support, Intel chips will have more competition in the rack systems market. IMHO I would love to see dell ditch intel for all its notebooks and use the new AMD chips. The batteries have to discarge so fast it fries my PC cards with the heat.
"Get them before they get....
(Nice karma whore post with the links! See you at 5:Insightful.)
AMD is leading the market and producing technology that is faster, more reliable, and cheaper.
Everything I've heard about AMD mobos is that they are *less* reliable than the Intel ones. For corporate customers (cf Dell), that's far more important than the 10-20% speedboost that AMD or better-than-SDRAM memory technology gives you.
You have to get out of the gameboy thinking that performance matters uber alles. Any ol' 2001 CPU, even Celerons, are fast enough for the vast majority of users, even those using client-side Java. That puts the "value" somewhere other than the Quake FPS benchmarks over at Biff's Hardware.
Furthermore, AMD might be cheaper on "Pricewatch", but that's not where Dell buys their CPUs. I would suspect that with the whole package (CPU/Mobo/RAM/Discounts/Kickbacks), Intel isn't a whole lot more expensive than AMD for a big OEM. You see those chips cheap on PriceWatch because the vendor has excess stock.
Business. Numbers. Money. People. Computer World.
"Appaloosa, a discount version of Thoroughbred."
they must have been smoking something really heavy when they named that.
If AMD managed to release their x86 with 64bit extensions in 2002, Intel would be big trouble. Too bad that they missed their targte again.
I've said it once, I'll say it again... No one ever wants to flat out say that the motherboards for AMD chips are a lot less well supported than the motherboards for Intel chips because they're so busy cheering for the underdog.
s p4-15.html [tomshardware.com])
But if you dig deep into, say, Tom's Hardware Guide: Another factor is the stability and product quality of a system: while all Athlon processors suffered from occasional instability in our tests, the Pentium 4 platform ran without a glitch. (http://www6.tomshardware.com/cpu/01q4/011031/xpv
Now, for me and I'm guessing a lot of people, system stability is far more important than a few percent performance increase. Since these machines are so closely matched and overpowered anyway, I'd like to see more emphasis on other factors like stability. More than a single sentence buried in one review, anyway. If these things are crashing during the tests, I want to know about it with a big red X on the graph...
Or just the chance to stop having to download freakin' 4-in-1 drivers for my KT7A... if I had known about the KT7A Faq (http://www.viahardware.com/faq/kt7/kt7faq.htm) before buying one, I probably would've passed... but all the "review" sites just a good things to say about it...
Buying an Athlon gives you that fuzzy feeling that you're supporting the underdog. Even if the prices were the same I would choose AMD. We NEED 2 competitors (or more) beating each other to have low prices and fast progress in technology.
Intel Cocksucker (Troll, that is). Provide a link to an official site that shows this is a real problem. Then accept that the problem is Linux not providing the work around for a hardware bug (like those that exist in EVERY other modern chipset and chip out there) , not AMD.
It matters for the hammer. The hammer is ment for servers. There is no way around that. Its ment to run in multi-proc systems. Thats the problem with today's 32-bit servers - a 4GB memory limit. 64bit exensions is the workaround for that limitation.
Itanium will have 200+ GP registers.
The "junk motherboards coming out of Taiwan" make up most of all motherboards sold, INCLUDING those that Dell uses. Virtually every company either is based in Taiwan or outsources their production of motherboards to Taiwain or China. This includes the Intel motherboards that Dell uses.
Dell using Intel exclusively has a lot to do with the way that they sell all their systems as custom-built setups. They try to eliminate as many variables as possible and outsource as much testing as possible. This is why they use exclusively Intel processors sitting on Intel motherboards using Intel chipsets. It's not so much that these are better/more stable, just that Intel does all the compatibility testing for them so that all Dell has to test is things like video cards, hard drives, sound cards, etc. If AMD wants to sell to Dell they would probably have to get some OEM to produce "AMD" motherboards for them and sell Dell kits of processors+motherboard+chipset. Of course, this doesn't fit in that well with AMD's business model.
That being said, VIA, ALi and SiS have had more then their share of ups and downs in the past, while Intel chipsets have usually being pretty consistent. I'm personally looking towards the new nVidia chipsets for AMD to see how that changes the landscape of things.