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Intel 4004 Turns 30

fm6 writes: "Just the thing to remind an aging geek of his mortality: this week marks the 30th anniversary of the Intel 4004, the very first microprocessor. Another historical page here, and a column bemoaning the absence of dancing in the streets here. Trivia -- why 4004? Because it was the fourth component in a 4-bit chipset." You might want to read the interview with Ted Hoff from a few months ago, it's pretty informative about the origins of the 4004.

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  1. Try the emulator! by VDM · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Perhaps no overclocking and Linux, but -vice versa- there exists a 4004 software emulator for Linux (e.g., i4004em).

  2. The 8080 by Reality+Master+101 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    The 4004 was certainly a significant milestone, but I think the 8080 launched in 1974 was truly the "Model T" of the computer industry. That was the chip that was general enough to really run everything. It was the basis for all the microcomputers and the CP/M operating system.

    In fact, I believe Zilog Z80s (an 8080 clone with some extra instructions -- around 1977?) are still being manufactured as controllers in various products.

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    1. Re:The 8080 by DdJ · · Score: 2, Interesting
      In fact, I believe Zilog Z80s (an 8080 clone with some extra instructions -- around 1977?) are still being manufactured as controllers in various products.

      Heck, it's not just used for controllers: a Z80 clone is at the heart of every Gameboy and Gameboy Color (not Gameboy Advance).
  3. Re:Well, Happy 30th... by ZeLonewolf · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Actually, you can get them...they're marketed as collector's items, tho :)

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  4. 4004 Memories by Rick+Richardson · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I remember stopping by the Intel booth at the National Computer
    Convention in New York in 1971-1973 timeframe (can't remember exact
    date).

    My Dad had put me on a train to New York to expand my teenage
    horizons. I returned with 4004 and 8008 data sheets and some chip
    samples. I spent the next few months dreaming up what I was going to
    do with the chips and drawing schematics.

    I never did build anything with them, because owning a terminal and a
    modem was more important to me at that time than a having a uP - if I
    had had my priorities straight, I might be famous now [grin]. I did end up
    designing and building 3 different video terminals, though.

    Thanks for the memories.

    -Rick

  5. Interview w/ Masatoshi Shima of Busicom by ch-chuck · · Score: 5, Interesting

    about the 4004 development, right here - they were Intel's customer at the time.

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  6. And I though that... by staili · · Score: 2, Interesting

    ... the first microprocessor was older than UNIX

    It seems a bit strange for me to think that first unix didn't run on a machine with microprosessor.

    1. Re:And I though that... by spiro_killglance · · Score: 3, Interesting


      In those days you couldn't put enough transitors
      on a chip to make a descent CPU core for a
      high end system, so what people did was join
      a lot of bit-slices together. A bit-slice was
      a 1,2 or 4 bit segment of an ALU +with instruction
      decoders, which could be chained together with
      carry bits outputs and inputs to make a 16 or 32 or whatever bit CPU core.

  7. Celebrating the wrong date? by SuzanneA · · Score: 3, Interesting
    Are we celebrating the wrong date?

    According to The Chronology of Personal Computers (1969-1971):

    The first production run of the 4004 was in December 1970. Admittably the production run had to be tossed due to mask errors, but 2nd and 3rd production runs in Jan and Feb of 71 were more sucessful (the 2nd run still had errors). Sample calculator designs were shipped to Busicom in March 71 - comprising 4 4001s, 2 4002s, 2 4003s and 1 4001.

    The only relevance of November 71 that I can find, was that the MCS-4 microcomputer based on the 400x series was released. But thats not the microprocessor itself.

    One thing that stands out, is that Intel have had production problems and bugs since day 1 :)

  8. Re:how about a beow... by Monte · · Score: 2, Interesting

    HAS ANYONE PORTED LINUX TO IT YET?

    4 bit data registers, 640 bytes (yes, bytes) of addressable memory - I think I can safely say "no".

    &ltobligatory_MS_bash&gt

    But I hear Win 3.11 is coming along nicely. Thrashes like a bitch, though.

    &lt/obligatory_MS_bash&gt

  9. Intel 4004 *NOT* the first microprocessor! by Eric+Smith · · Score: 5, Interesting
    Actually, the CADC was the first microprocessor. It was used in the F-14A.

    It is lesser known because the designer, Ray Holt, only received clearance to publish information about it in 1998.

  10. Re:Well, Happy 30th... by SuzanneA · · Score: 2, Interesting
    Because:

    1... Why not? People are synthesizing other CPUs that aren't really 'useful' in these days.

    2... Because you can!

    3... Because its part of our history, and keeping these things alive is part of our duty to preserve the history of computer science, even if a synthesized core is only the chip in question from an external point of view, it still preserves the memory.a well written VHDL specification should document how the chip works for anyone in the future to examine.

  11. 4004 Family Tree by spiro_killglance · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I'm sure i'll miss a few but here goes,

    Sorry the formatting is poor due to the lameness filter.

    4004
    4040
    8008 8080 Z80 (Zilog) Z8000 (16-bit)
    8086 8085 Z800 (Z80 extension)
    80186
    80286
    386SX also IA468 (still born new archi)
    386DX
    486SX
    486DX
    486DX-2
    486DX-4
    Pentium, AMD K5, 586 (cyrix)
    P-MMX P-PRO K6 686 Win chip
    P-2 Celeron K6-2 686MX Win Chip II
    P-III Cel(2) K6-3 ?
    Coppermine Athlon Cyrix III
    T-bird
    P4 Tualatin Athlon XP

    I've missed out the Xeons, and of course all the
    microprocessors that didn't have some lineage
    to the orignal 4004. Although the instruction
    sets changed a lot particular from the 4004 to
    8080 and from the 8080 to 8086, there is enough
    similarity in there style and content to claim
    that your Pentium 4 or Athlon XP is directly
    descended from the 4004. It makes you wonder
    if Intel can really expect to shift people from
    the x86 arch to a totally new one.

  12. I've got three of them :) by MsWillow · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Still utterly unused, in anti-static foam, three Intel 4004s. My roommate decided to start collecting old CPUs, and I managed to find these, free. I still want to make a very simple blinking-lights toy with one of these, and proudly put the "Intel Inside" sticker on the box :)

    Goddess, this brings back memories! Hanging out at the library, using their terminal to call (at 300 baud, that was *fast!*) the HP-2000 system at Harper College, and chatting with friends who had serious money (Jeff actually *built* an Imsai 8080 unit, though he got many of the parts free by schmoozing the sales person).

    30 years, gads. Back then, having even a floppy disk was a wild dream, now we have 100+ gigabyte hard disks. Back then, having one whole K of ram was heaven - last week, I bought 512 meg for $20. Back then, the clock oscillator could be made from a simple L-C circuit, and it ran several hundred kilohertz. Now, it's a PLL-controlled internal oscillator, using an external crystal oscillator, all running at frequencies that make a microwave oven look slow.

    All this, in thirty years. That *really* makes me feel old :)

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  13. The old days by certsoft · · Score: 2, Interesting
    I did some programming for the 4004 back around 1975, I had no idea it was that old of a chip. Of course I was working for the military, so that might explain it :)

    As I recall we had a Model-33 Teletype for software development. We punched the program into paper tape, called up a system using an acoustic modem and used their cross-assembler. Or maybe I'm just having an antacid flashback.

  14. look at Moore's law in action by compugeek007 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Here is a link that has a simple graph from the 4004 to the P7 (Merced Pentium II) that shows how Intel has obeyed Moore's law (at least until the P2.)

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  15. On speed. by tit4tat · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Intel summed up the "speed" [sic] difference between a 4004 and a Pentium 4 with an interesting assume-this-basketball-represents-the-sun-like analogy: "Intel's first microprocessor, the 4004, ran at 108 kilohertz (108,000 hertz), compared to the Pentium® 4 processor's initial speed of 1.5 gigahertz (1.5 billion hertz). If automobile speed had increased similarly over the same period, you could now drive from San Francisco to New York in about 13 seconds."

  16. Re:Alas, the Z80 by Amazing+Quantum+Man · · Score: 3, Interesting
    Having had the pleasure of programming the Z8K, it was not a 16 bit version of the Z80.

    The Z8000 was available in four flavors:

    Z8001 Segmented (8MB address space)

    Z8002 Non-Segmented (64KB address space)

    Z8003 Segmented (8MB address space), Virtual Memory Support

    Z8004 Non-Segmented (8MB address space) Virtual Memory Support

    The Segmented CPUs had a flag bit that allowed them to run in non-segmented mode.

    The Z8000 was much closer architecturally to the 68K family than the Z80/x86 family. It had 16 orthagonal, 16-bit registers (R0-R15), which could be paired up as 8 32-bit registers (RR0-RR14). R15 (non-segmented mode) or RR14 (segmented mode) was the stack pointer.

    The opcode names were similar to the Z80, but the architecture was vastly different. The Z8000 series was popular in embedded and military applications. Unfortunately, I don't believe Zilog ever built the Z8070 FPU for the processor, which also hindered it's acceptance as a mainstream CPU.

    Anyone out there remember the Zilog ZEUS System 8000? It was a Unix System III variant.

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