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The Real Mission to Mars

"Hard work, no pay, eternal glory." The Mars Society needs volunteers to simulate Mars exploration, so we're better-prepared for the problems the (hopefully) real astronauts will face. If you have a month free next summer and you'd like to spend it freezing your ass off, read on.

The Mars Society is looking for "anyone in good physical condition between 18 and 60 years of age... Scientific, engineering, practical mechanical, wilderness, and literary skills are all considered a plus." Only the passionate need apply: "conditions are likely to be tough and the job will be very trying." And that's before the robot switches into hunter-killer mode.

If you prefer roasting to freezing, there's a mission somewhere in the Australian Outback next year as well. Either way, go visit the Mars Society homepage and check it out.

I spoke with a friend of mine, Daniel Slosberg, who coordinated Mission Support for the Michigan Mars Society during two similar, less-audacious experiments this year. His was the easy job of sitting at home, coordinating communications (chiefly email, with simulated 20-minute round-trip delay), answering questions from the field, and giving advice.

Daniel happens to be working on an idea for distributed mission support; if you're interested in being part of the ground crew, drop him a line.

For the team that actually goes into the wilderness and lives in the "hab," you'll be simulating Mars isolation as accurately as possible. You'll be brutally far north, for one thing. You'll wear a mock-spacesuit every time you go outside, which will help identify where the problems are in e.g. mobility or hygiene. You'll also spend an hour in the airlock when you enter or leave, which will help remind you not to forget your hammer.

The excursions get more sophisticated each year: next year will be the first with an already-completed hab and the first with more than one mock-suit. Your chance to be part of history.

In related news, Odyssey continues aerobraking, and its mission looks good -- if you've read Robinson's Red Mars series, you know how delicate orbital insertion is. Great work, JPL.

And just for kicks, here's a New Scientist article about synthesizing fuel from the Martian atmosphere to power a "hopper"-lander. If you find the practical chemistry of planetary travel interesting, go read Robert Zubrin who is just all about using whatever resources already exist outside Earth's gravity well.

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  1. What about the Money? by dragons_flight · · Score: 5, Funny

    So how much do I get if I'm the last one left?

  2. Cold? In Summer? Hardly by topham · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Cold In summer? Hardly. Try winter north of 49th (And East of the rockies).

    It won't be your idea of a hot summer, but it won't be that cold. Although, it will be quite sunny...

  3. The human element is the weak link by alewando · · Score: 5, Funny

    In space, but more importantly, here on the earth too.

    The Mars Society are alternatively hailed as heroes or decried as demagogues. Mars Society president Robert Zubrin is especially vulnerable, being labeled no less than a "messianic" "cult" leader by Robert Park in his acclaimed book Voodoo Science: the Road from Foolishness to Fraud, remarks for which Zubrin supposedly pursued legal action against Park.

    The attacks are somewhat ad-hominem, but Park raises an important concern. Whatever the merits of the science the Society is pursuing, it does us no good if the work is blemished by association with individuals of dubious social qualities. If the Society is dominated by demagogues, then their work will be dismissed as just another fancy of another crackpot institution, and civilian space research will be set back for untold years.

    The Mars Society has a lot riding on the line. Let's hope they don't fumble the ball this time.

  4. Re:Fun things to do by jamie · · Score: 4, Informative
    "Why would it take the airlock on Mars a full hour to open? Pressure should make little difference, since people are wearing spacesuits. Is it for decontamination? Quarantine? Fun?"

    Apparently it's to vacuum the dust of Mars off your suit. Mars dust is so fine that if you track it inside the hab it'll choke everything up in short order.

  5. Who needs habs for this? by SumDeusExMachina · · Score: 4, Funny
    you'll be simulating Mars isolation as accurately as possible.

    Why bother with building expensive habs? I know tons of OSS programmers who haven't seen the light of day in aeons!

    Or perhaps this is targeted advertising...

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  6. Realistic simulation of NASA supply chain by glebfrank · · Score: 5, Funny

    The article:
    ... two crucial pieces of construction equipment badly damaged when cargo dropped from a U.S. military transport plane smashed into the ground "without assistance" from a parachute.


    Well, at least the NASA methods for delivering payloads to Mars (smashing them into the rock) are being realistically simulated :)

    1. Re:Realistic simulation of NASA supply chain by sporty · · Score: 4, Funny
      Well, at least the NASA methods for delivering payloads to Mars (smashing them into the rock) are being realistically simulated :)

      Simulated nothing, they are using UPS. :)

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  7. Re:A few thoughts... by NMerriam · · Score: 5, Interesting

    is there anything about testing a "space suit" that can't be done in a lab, as opposed to hauling it to the middle of nowhere

    Everything works in the lab. basically they want to see what happens when you're NOT in the lab. can you really ride an ATV and climb around in a meteorite crater while carrying tools? Do you trip and fall a lot, what is it like for someone to learn to walk in it? Can you pick up rocks and anylize them wearing the gloves? How easy is it to get in and out of in an airlock by yourself? Etc...

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  8. What about the explorers? by Goonie · · Score: 4, Insightful
    Lots of explorers, some of whom weren't particularly sane, managed to survive extended periods of similar isolation and once they went out they didn't have *any* contact with others outside their own party for months or even years. Or, to take another example, what about the crews of WWII U-Boats? From all reports, most of them stayed sane, under conditions that seem to me to be similar (but harsher) than those faced by a hypothetical Mars mission.

    Or consider the contestants on Big Brother - the producers choose them specifically because they believe that they'll be entertaining on television when mixed in with the other contestants, not for mental stability. They don't allow them any contact with their family and friends while they're in the house. They don't provide them with any news of the outside world. They *do* spy on them 24 hours a day. They ply them with alcohol in attempts to get them to do things they wouldn't otherwise do. And yet the overwhelming majority of contestants on the various versions around the world came out sane and (publically at least) claim to have enjoyed the experience.

    Now, I'm not claiming that being a member of a Mars crew wouldn't be challenging, stressful, and lonely at times. I find it hard to believe that it's beyond the efforts of a specially-selected, well-trained team.

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  9. Next base here in U.S. by jonwiley · · Score: 4, Informative

    I'm a team member for the Mars Desert Research Station, which is about to begin assembly on site in Utah. Just wanted to clarify some things...

    First, MDRS, here in the U.S., will be the next simulation to begin, not the one in Australia. They are still looking for sites in Oz.

    The first field season of a Mars Society hab (this past summer in the Arctic) featured a completed hab and at least three mock suits.

    Also, several teams are developing pressurized rovers to test engineering designs. Some of these rovers will be tested as part of the mission simulations.

    I was on the site selection committee for the MDRS and I was also a field scout. The Mars Society uses a combination of satellite and aerial reconnaisance, GIS data, and on-site scouting to locate potential sites. This is the phase Mars Society Australia is currently in.

    The field season for Utah will be focused primarily on the cooler seasons, but it will be equipped with air conditioning.

  10. Low Fidelity Simulation by DerekLyons · · Score: 5, Insightful

    For the team that actually goes into the wilderness and lives in the "hab," you'll be simulating Mars isolation as accurately as possible.

    Not really... There's frequent contact with support staff not living in the hab, and many other differences that render the usefulness of the Hab 'simulation' questionable.

    The project suffers continuously from poor planning and communication. (This summer when a generator, known to fail in cold conditions, was sent to Devon, and failed, it was replaced with the exact same model.) Much of the 'science' is done the same way, haphazardly, and with little forethought. They routinely fail to practice protocols and procedures until they are tried in the field.

    With the short length of the field season at Devon Island, this is very wasteful. There is concern among many that when it's discovered that the emperor has no clothes, it will hurt the funding of future endeavors of this type. The Mars Society has (rightfully) come under fire in many quarters as portraying this publicity stunt as real science. Like Biosphere II, the Hab is more show than go.

    For those interested, this topic (the validity of the simulation and the usefulness of the science) is a routine topic of discussion on the sci.space.policy newsgroup.

  11. Re:Isolation by DerekLyons · · Score: 5, Insightful

    They'll need a high-bandwidth data link, and I imagine that low-bandwidth internet access would be considered a good investment in morale. Sure, the lag would be a killer, but it would still be good.

    'High Bandwidth' in space terms is nothing like what would be considered such dirtside. (Think 56.6 modem *at best*, with a lot of demands on the channel, even considering it'll be as close to 24/7 as can practically be managed.) Ditto for 'lag', round trip time will be generally in the vicinity of at least an hour, usually worse.

    I dunno about you, but for all I know, I might have been on my way to Mars for the last week. I think there are lots of people now who wouldn't be bothered by the isolation much.

    I really doubt most of those who think they "wouldn't be bothered much" really have a clue. When I was in the Submarine Service new guys were constantly astonished by what the close quarters and lack of communication with the outside world really meant. It's not like anything you've likely ever encountered before. It's almost impossible to describe it to someone who has not encountered it.

    From another poster:
    Lots of explorers, some of whom weren't particularly sane, managed to survive extended periods of similar isolation and once they went out they didn't have *any* contact with others outside their own party for months or even years. Or, to take another example, what about the crews of WWII U-Boats? From all reports, most of them stayed sane, under conditions that seem to me to be similar (but harsher) than those faced by a hypothetical Mars mission.

    I submit that those explorers, and WWII Submariners of all nations, came from a time when extended periods without communications were the norm, not the exception. In the last twenty years personal communication and connecticity have become so pervasive that again it's hard to communicate the differences to someone under thirty or so.