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What to do when your registrar (NSI) ignores you?

Frustrated Webmaster writes "For the past two days, I've been trying to make modifications on a domain name I registered through NSI/Verisign. The problem is, they refuse to accept changes through email, and their login system is apparently broken. What are my options? How do I transfer the domain away from NSI if I can't even login to their system?" CD: When I heard that NSI was going to go through yet another interface change, I moved the domains that mattered to me to another registrar. For what it is worth, I can totally reccomend EasyDNS.

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  1. Dotster by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

    I personally think dotster is the best. They have great online management tools and bulk management tools for managing all your dumb novelty domains at once.

    They're cheap and the customer support is good too.

    I don't work for them, I just like them, disclaimer, etc.

    1. Re:Dotster by kilgore_47 · · Score: 3, Informative

      I used to really like dotster, and still have several names registered through them, but the past few times I've used their site it was painfully slow. A few weeks ago, when I went to renew a domain, it took so long to send me the confirmation page that I eventually gave up and did it later.

      I suppose I still like their service -- I just hope they get their act together and buy some new servers/bandwidth/whatever-it-takes.

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  2. Give JumpDomain a try. by Snowfox · · Score: 3, Informative
    JumpDomain has been pretty amazing so far. They're not the cheapest, but they're under $20 a year with no premium on the first year, and commitments in one-year intervals, including a single year.

    They've been really responsive when I've suggested features or had a question, typically responding in under an hour business days, and same day even on Sundays.

    I don't know if they have an e-mail interface, but after NetSol, I sure as hell don't miss that. The web interface is nice, letting you apply changes to one or all domains at once, view domains sorted by expiry date, and there are no locks on company names like NetSol and all have or had.

  3. Just Typical Shenanigans by Lokni · · Score: 5, Informative

    That's typical registrar behavior, especially with NSI/Verisign. Since they have had to deal with competition, they have been doing some pretty nasty things including not doing domain transfers. Their reasoning is that they don't know whether it is actually the owner requesting the domain being transfered, and they don't want to be liable for domain jacking. Well, that should be solved by a phone call and maybe a fax of ID, right? Wrong. They have made it super tough to transfer a domain because to transfer a domain means they are losing business to competition so they are going to hold onto your domain for as long as they can. Call it Reverse Domain Jacking if you will.

  4. Lumber Cartel (tinlc) aproved registrars by strredwolf · · Score: 5, Informative

    These ones spam:
    NSI/Verisign/Register.com
    Joker.com
    Dotster

    You can find out more by asking on news.admin.net-abuse.email. However, here's some that don't spam, haven't given any problems, and are groovy all around.

    DomainDiscover
    GANDI.net
    Stargateinc.com
    awregistry.net
    netwiz.net

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    1. Re:Lumber Cartel (tinlc) aproved registrars by pongo000 · · Score: 4, Informative
      I can vouch for GANDI.net. I've been a customer for little over two years. Everything -- I mean everything -- is done via e-mail and browser. Which means the only authentication required of you is your password. In fact, they discourage phone calls, which is fine by me, as they have been most responsive to e-mail on the few occasions I've had to ask a question.


      Their TOC is reasonable as well: You own the domain, plain and simple, until you let the registration lapse.

    2. Re:Lumber Cartel (tinlc) aproved registrars by Basje · · Score: 3, Informative

      FWIW. I've yet to get any spam from joker.com
      I've one domain with them, and on that domain I haven't received a single piece of spam yet.

      Furthermore I haven't received any mails from joker, apart from confirmations of changes I made to my DNS.

      I am not in any way affiliated with them. But the parent looks more like a commercial post to me, slandering a few large registars to draw to some small ones. Cheap promotion.

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    3. Re:Lumber Cartel (tinlc) aproved registrars by bfree · · Score: 3, Informative

      Let me also add my vote for these guys. They have the right idea and business model (imho) where they simply resell domains through an automated system for a tiny cut. Domains cost 12 Euros per annum (.com, .net, .org) and that includes the ability to use an email forwarding and web forwarding service or even to edit your own zone (but no sub-domains at the moment). I chose them (along with some friends of mine) for the seeming perfection of the legal side of things and between us we have over 100 domains (maybe more like 2-300) and no complaints.

      Still paying some monkeys like NSI to host your new domains? Then get a life and a brain and stop! For existing domains however, I hope you are a masocist as NSI seem to be just plain nasty about everything to do with stopping giving them money (unlike gandi who couldn't care less what you do and provide straight forward ways to do it all)!

      The closest to a complaint I have had about gandi was that when someone set up a new domain with a wrong email address, we had to send passport shots AND a copy of the marraige cert to confirm the person had changed their name! Personally I thought this was great! True reassurance that theys guys are diligent (as if the site and srvice didn't give that away).

      My apologies to any other registrars who are as good, but I don't know or have experience of any! And btw I have zero affiliation with gandi except that I register domains there.

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  5. EasyDNS by Ron+Harwood · · Score: 4, Informative

    They rock. They're cheap. They do dynamic DNS, a store and forward MX...

    I haven't found a better service.

  6. what about joker by BlueLines · · Score: 3, Informative

    i've been using Joker as my sole registrar for the past 2 years. Super cheap, free dns, easy interface, good service. Only minus would be the sometimes awkward translated website / documents (they are a german registrar)....

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    1. Re:what about joker by macdaddy · · Score: 3, Informative

      They are also the exclusive registrar of Alan Ralsky, a notorious spammer. An excellent method of blocking Ralsky spam to to declare that all joker.com domains are spamming domains. I've seen it done. If you use it and than it's highly likely that soon you'll come across someone that rejects your mail as spam. Then you'll become a casuality of war, an anti-spam war.

  7. Switch To OpenSRS by tomblackwell · · Score: 4, Informative

    OpenSRS resellers have a super-easy set of password-protected web forms for updating all of your info. The cool thing is, if for some reason your reseller goes out of business (imagine that!), you can still do maintenance through opensrs.org.

    Two that I like and have used are

    Domainmonger
    and 000domains

    Plus, the price is usually cheap ($13-17 per year).

    It's easy to switch from NSI/Verisign to these guys. The instructions are on the sites.

    1. Re:Switch To OpenSRS by The+Dev · · Score: 3, Informative

      I use Domainmonger for all of my personal and business domains. I absolutely love their service. If there is any kind of problem with a transfer, *they will call YOU* to straighten it out before you even know something is wrong. I also like the way you can
      apply one set of changes (like contact info) a bunch of domains at once.

  8. Registrars by kupekhaize · · Score: 3, Informative
    Personally, I like Domain Discover. Their privacy policy is good, and you also own your own Domain. Tierranet (the parent company of Domain Discover) actually states that you own your own domain name, and they can't take it away from you if someone were to offer them a truckload of money. NSI recently changed their policy to indicate that they own all domain names registered through them, and they can sell your domain to someone else if they want.

    Also, Domain Discover makes it incredibly easy to transfer your domain to them. They have a SSL web based interface for making changes.

    Note: I don't work for them, but I do have ~15 personal domains registered through them so.. Slightly more expensive them some of the other registrars out there, but I think its worth it to know that my registrar won't steal my domain name if it suits their interests...

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  9. Re:Do What I Do... by MeNeXT · · Score: 4, Informative
    Then they freeze the domain untill you pay back the fees plus processing charges or such.


    Before you do anything like that read the terms of use from your cc. This is not an acceptable form of use. Your card may be suspended. Call their 1-800 and let the charge accumulate untill someone responds.

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  10. Network Solutions by Micah · · Score: 3, Informative

    Network Solutions is BY FAR the WORST place to register a domain.

    Their forms are confusing, even when you know exactly what you're doing. And that assumes you can find the right form in the first place -- even the list of them is confusing! Changing basic things like DNS servers is a nightmare.

    Compare to Domain Maniac. It's a snap to change basic info -- you just log in and do it.

    So on a purely technical basis, pretty much anything is better than NS.

    Oh yeah, then there's the fact that DM charges less than half of what NS charges.

  11. Transfer Away ... by RWarrior(fobw) · · Score: 5, Informative

    Any of a number of people have suggested transferring your domain away from NSI, and have suggested replacements. There is one big hiccup to beware of, however:

    If you try to transfer your domain away from NSI by letting your domain expire and then reregistering it with another registrar, you may find that NSI is holding it hostage.

    A customer of mine let one of her domains expire for lack of funds; when the money came in to pay the $30 registration fee, NSI didn't want $30 or $35 or even $70 to re-up it ... they wanted $150 for a year. Calls to customer service to get the mess straight proved totally fruitless. We're still unable to register it with another registrar because NSI won't let it go, and NSI won't reregister it for anything like the usual price.

    Also, I moved a domain from NSI to another registrar back in July; in September I started getting bills from NSI for the domains' registration which expires in October, 2005.

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    1. Re:Transfer Away ... by NatePWIII · · Score: 4, Informative

      Yes, this is a problem that plagues almost 90% of our customers transfering their domain away from Verisign. It is simply their policy to lock the domain name down, I unfortunately have to deal with it on a dail basis, as a result I have posted up a warning on our transfer page: Registrar Transfer Page
      Even with this notice posted, most people ignore it somehow, then when the transfer comes back declined they want their transfer fee refunded which of course we lose money on since crediting back a credit card (even a small amount) costs us a dollar. Its gotten to the point that I don't even want to try to do registrar transfer anymore. Too much hassle and headaches...

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      www.haidacarver.com
  12. DomainNameBuyersGuide by ftobin · · Score: 4, Informative

    I highly recommend checking out the DomainNameBuyersGuide to see how various registrars rank among various dimensions (legal, pricing, etc). This is how I found my excellent registrar, DomainDiscover, which has proved to be great.

    For the record, I too, am a huge fane of EasyDNS; they provide 4 secondary DNS sites and 2 backup MX for $15 yearly.

  13. OpenSRS/Tucows by NatePWIII · · Score: 5, Informative

    Granted I am a bit biased, since we are a Tucows/OpenSRS reseller. However, I have not found a more reliable and friendly company to work with than Tucows. The development team is awesome and their support staff is more than willing to work with you. We have been registering our domains through them over a year and a half now, and have never once regretted the move from first NSI and then later registrars.com
    We currently retail domains at $13.00 per year (which isn't the cheapest price out there) after buying them wholesale from Tucows at $10.00 year.
    If you are serious about registering lots of domains I strongly suggest becoming a Tucows reseller.

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    www.haidacarver.com
  14. NSI Stinks - Try Stargate by KC7GR · · Score: 3, Informative

    http://www.stargateinc.com -- I moved to them after Domain Bank started spamming me. I've found Stargate to be very inexpensive ($8.85/domain), and they have a full-blown web-based configuration section where domain owners can make whatever changes they want at any time.

    As for the service, Stargate really does make NSI look like the sick joke they've become. When I had some minor trouble assigning two new domain names I'd registered to my own DNS boxes, I simply dropped a note to Stargate's tech support. The problem was promptly fixed in less than 24 hours, and I had a courteous and informative response to show for it.

    Whatever registrar you select, let THEM take care of the transfer paperwork for you. SG did an outstanding job here as well.

    FWIW: I wouldn't go with Dotster. They support spammers. Avoid register.com as well -- big-time spam support, despite their ToS.

    Good hunting.

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  15. How to get NSI to do their job. by howiefl · · Score: 4, Informative

    I worked for a hosting company and it was my job to deal with NSI daily. They only way to get anything done is to CALL Verisign and ask to speak to the BAO (Business Affairs Office). They are the ONLY people there that have any power. The customer service reps that you talk to sound like indians for a reason.. Verisign uses a Call Center in India (no lie).
    Virginia Office
    21355 Ridgetop Circle
    Dulles, VA 20166
    Main Number: 703-742-0400

    Good luck!