Integrated Water-Cooled Case

man_ls writes "Tom's Hardware has a review of a new Koolance water-cooled case. It has a built in watercooling system, to save people into overclocking the trouble of building their own. Unfortunately, it only works with Athlon, Duron, and Pentium IIIs. The P4 socket isn't compatible with it. "

Comments

Not for P4?

[Mendax Veritas]

It has a built in watercooling system, to save people into overclocking the trouble of building their own. Unfortunately, it only works with Athlon, Duron, and Pentium IIIs. The P4 socket isn't compatible with it.

Overclockers are generally performance freaks, so why the hell would one be buying a P4?

What a waste!

[Bazman]

All that energy should be going into your domestic hot water system. I reckon a machine left on all day could heat up enough water for a shower. But how many overclocking geeks shower daily?

Re:Leakage?

[Quasar1999]

Always, ALWAYS use distilled water... first, it doesn't end up putting deposits in your pump, and second, if it does leak, nothing bad will happen to your CPU/components, since distilled water is an insulator (not a good one, but it won't conduct)...

Exclusionary...

[Sinfamous]

I still think the $250 price tag attached is to high...making it a niche market.

They say they target Overclockers and Power Users. I think they meant "We target that geek who needs every new god damn toy for his computer no matter what the cost". That's someone who thinks Mhz is the most important part of the equation. NOT a Power User.

I overclock, but I do it to get the most bang for my buck. The extra money I'd spend on this case would be better used on buying other improved system parts, not just pushing my Mhz that much higher. (think SCSI hard drive)

Re:Exclusionary...

[evel aka matt]

Er...the $250 price tag is actually pretty low, making it one of the primary reasons that people buy a Koolance. If you add up the costs of all the components in a watercooling system (waterblock, pump, radiator, tubing, etc) plus a decent case, you'd be hitting close to that price already. Plus, Koolance builds it all for you and gives you instructions and tech support on it. Also, the Koolance system is much quieter than a decently cooled aircooled system.

And about your comment on who they're targeting...well, for starters, watercooling is nothing new, neither is Koolance or even Tom's review of the new(er) Koolance. And if it was for a "geek who needs every new god damn toy for his computer no matter what the cost" and that thinks that Mhz is of supreme importance, said geek would be running a P4, and probably would never have even heard of watercooling.

You've also forgotten that all overclockers aren't doing it just to be thrifty. A lot of overclockers do it to get as much performance as possible. You can't buy a 2ghz+ AMD chip, but you can overclock to that. Now, I'm not saying that you would use a Koolance to get 2+ ghz, but watercooling is how you would do it, and you seem to be bashing watercooling all together.

Please try to get your facts straight next time you talk.

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matt fury

In Related News, Overclocker Kills 10

[Myriad]

In related news a local mans foolish attempt to squeeze a few extra cycles out of his processor has ended in tragedy with the death of himself, 3 friends and 6 neighbors.

Around 3am last night a blast shook the neighborhood blowing out windows and killing 10 people including 4 young men who were in the immediate blast zone when it occurred. These men apparently were also responsible for the explosion itself.

The four men described as "Geeks" were apparently attempting to "Overclock" their system. Witnesses say one man was last seen carrying a large jug of Alcohol he claimed would "ch!ll th!5 f()k3r t0 d@ b0n3!".

The investigation continues...

What's the market?

[RainbowSix]

I'm not sure I understad the market that this is shooting for.

Back in the day, overclocking was all about getting the best performance out of a cheaper processor. For example, a $75 Celeron 366 overclocked to 550 would rival the performance of the $500 PII 550.

Grassroots watercooling did the same thing. It allowed people to reap more benifits out of a processor using cheapo parts they bought at their local auto parts stores. A used radiator, fish tank pump, tubing, and some epoxy to affix some home made heat remover directly to the core would cost just a few bucks. Watercoolers used to be an elite group of self doers, but now adays you can buy premade kits for just about anything.

Today, we've got $100 heat sinks, and $250 watercooled cases at a time where overclocking no longer yields significant percentages in processing power and where more than just the processor is a bottleneck.

Spending $35 on a Duron 750 and watercooling it to a gig or more doesn't seem that appealing when you realize 1 gig T-birds are only about $70.

Anyway, my conclusion is this: this product seems silly.

Why not make chips run cooler?

[Tryfen]

Many moons ago, computers were huge blocks that had to be kept in hermatically sealed, air conditioned rooms.

Today computers are small blocks that people want to put in mini-fridges.

Shouldn't we be concentrating on making chips run cooler WITHOUT adding extra fans/heat-sinks/water coolers/dusky maidens with palm leaves?

Terry
(probably talking nonsence again)