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Gnome Preliminary Election Results In

Posted by chrisd on from the does-anyone-know-what-step-two-is dept.

makapuf writes "First results of Gnome Board elections have been issued. They include some well known gnome hackers, Miguel & others, along with Tesla Gwyne, but RMS has not been elected. Remember this is only temporary and see the results on Gnotices. You can see RMS' responses of the application form."

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  1. Urgh by Anonymous+DWord · · Score: 4, Informative

    It's actually Telsa Gwynne. Close though. :)

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  2. Why gee, that's a surprise ... by Rosco+P.+Coltrane · · Score: 4, Troll
    "... but RMS has not been elected"

    RMS has acted as a intolerant stubborn donkey for so long with regard to software that he isn't taken seriously anymore. Even the FSF are getting really tired of him now.

    Don't get me wrong, his strong opinions *were* the right attitude when free software was something of a novelty, when the business world was taking the few free software people for lunatics. But that was years ago. Now the world at large at least takes free software seriously, and Stallman has become as useful as a fire hydrant in the middle of a bike trail.

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    1. Re:Why gee, that's a surprise ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      as useful as a fire hydrant in the middle of a bike trail.

      What kind of analogy is that? I'd say RMS is more of a one-legged cat trying to bury turds on a frozen lake....

    2. Re:Why gee, that's a surprise ... by Muggins+the+Mad · · Score: 5, Insightful

      > Now the world at large at least takes free software seriously, and Stallman has become as useful as a fire hydrant in the middle of a bike trail.

      I must disagree with you here. Stallman, or at least his strong views on the purity of free software are needed more than ever.

      Now people are recognising some of the benefits of available source code, they're not seeing the important difference between open source and free software (in GNU terms). And it's all being confused. People are going around thinking that just because it's publically developed, it's free.

      We need the FSF as much as we always have, as a voice pointing out why the "viral" clause in the GPL is so important, and why the BSD license gives developers more freedom but doesn't necessarily transfer it to the end users.

      - MugginsM

    3. Re:Why gee, that's a surprise ... by Get+Behind+the+Mule · · Score: 5, Insightful
      I must disagree with you here. Stallman, or at least his strong views on the purity of free software are needed more than ever.


      ... and so on and so forth, but your post just keeps asserting that these things are all so important, without explaining why.

      Sure it's a Good Thing that the FSF exists, and of course RMS deserves respect for the dogged exercise of his rights (as everybody always says nowadays). And if he and others like him can convince more people, then more power to 'em. But a lot of us know and understand the message, are not terribly convinced by it, and aren't planning on doing anything particular to promote it in the foreseeable future. In the marketplace of ideas, you win some and you lose some.

      Incidentally, since you're evidently a supporter of the FSF and the free software concept, I'd like to advise you, probably for the umpteenth time, that RMS is an extremely poor ambassador for your cause. Let's once and for all be rid of the canard that it's everybody else's fault, because we're all just too lily-livered to cope with someone who is so strongly dedicated. RMS could be just as passionate without being such an insufferable jackass. It is possible to take a strong, principled stance, and nevertheless have some skills at diplomacy and just generally getting along with people. RMS's fans try to redefine his weaknesses as strengths, but that's just an argument born out of desperation, not to mention sheer baloney. He has simply failed to learn some lessons that his mother and kindergarten teacher should have taught him, and it is extremely damaging to the free software cause.
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    4. Re:Why gee, that's a surprise ... by sydb · · Score: 4, Insightful

      In the past, pro-MS posters would generally get moderated down and flamed, whilst pro-Linux posters would generally get moderated up.

      At the same time, a vocal minority would complain about this lack of balance. Fair enough.

      But now, the pendulum has swung the other way. Fully. Now the balance is against linux and Free Software. You are part of the vocal majority.

      I'd rather have NONE of the flaming and trolling, the karma-whoring and bigotry on EITHER side.

      I came to Slashdot for intelligent discussion, about technical news and, specifically, about Free Software related happenings. The site has ALWAYS had a Free Software slant. Just because it's not written in lights at the top of page doesn't change that; but remember that Slashdot is part of the OSDN: Open Source Developers Network. "Open Source" may not be a drop-in replacement for "Free Software" but near as dammit. But it's not solely about Free Software, and I welcome that, and I don't troll or flame people talking about Microsoft products; in fact I try not to troll or flame anyone. If someone puts up an opinion, it's an invitation to a discussion, but most people here don't want to discuss, they just want to score points.

      Your kind and many more like you make me want to go elsewhere.

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  3. Elections by loraksus · · Score: 5, Funny

    However, RMS has demanded a recount in 13 counties, claiming that media bias that he is not a team player has offset the public's perception of him, and thus cost him the election.
    Reports have come from a source close to Stallman saying that he is stomping up and down his office and muttering " No? NO!?!!? I invented the fuckin' GUI!!"

    More at 10.

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    1. Re:Elections by Lunastorm · · Score: 4, Funny

      Don't you mean, GNU/GUI?

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  4. I was confused... by x136 · · Score: 4, Funny

    ...I think I accidentally voted for Pat Buchanan!

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  5. Domination by a few companies by amorsen · · Score: 5, Informative

    In retrospect the protection against company dominations could have been stronger. Of those elected:

    4 are employed by Ximian
    3 are employed by RedHat
    3 are without affiliation
    1 is employed by Compaq

    As it is, Ximian and RedHat together have almost 2/3 of the seats. Both are respectable and honourable companies and I am sure that they will try to keep the viewpoints of the whole GNOME community in mind when they decide issues, but it is hard for them to represent important GNOME backers such as Sun Microsystems.

    One can hope that the GNOME Board will consult with the greater community when they are facing important issues. They could invite people with different affiliations as non-voting guests for select meetings, perhaps.

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  6. Board dominated by Ximian and Red Hat by Florian+Weimer · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Time will tell if this is a good thing. Perhaps the per-company limit should have been lower (two or three), so that some other companies would have been represented on the board. The current member's affiliations probably do not mirror a large part of the GNOME community.

  7. Re:FUCK RMS by Anonymous+DWord · · Score: 4, Informative
    Here's his application, just in case you're curious: http://nm.debian.org/nmstatus.php?email=rms%40gnu. org

    Application Manager Assigned: jordi assigned on 2001-11-25

    The following things need to happen still:
    • ID to be checked by AM
    • Philosophy and Procedures to be checked by AM.
    • Tasks and Skills to be checked by AM.
    • Your Application Manager will put their approval to the DAM.
    • DAM to approve application
    • DAM creates new account
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