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Disney World Goes 802.11b

LighthouseJ writes "Over at CNN they report that Disney World in Florida has a 47-square mile 802.11b wireless LAN through the park with 200 access points. The move comes after visitors complaints that they couldn't use credit cards at every place in the park. Plus, it allows "cast members" to offer guests goods and services anywhere, not restricted to where the credit card machine is at. The man responsible, Murshid S. Khan, Director of Telecommunications and Technology Support sees this as a valuable technology, citing mobility and flexibility as the main reasons for the switch. Khan goes on to say that the system is protected by a 128-bit encryption scheme and software installed to detect intrusions. When he was asked if visitors will have access to the wireless network, CNN quotes him to say: 'We need you to come to the park and enjoy the park,' he said. 'If we start opening Internet cafes, you won't do that.' He's a smart man." So, running AirSnort wouldn't probably be the best idea? *grin*

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  1. Bad ST reference: by FortKnox · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    It was later found that Khan had stolen the Genesis machine, and killed Kirk's son!!

    Sorry, you can mod me down, now.

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    Good quote, too many chars. Seriously, the slashdot 120 char limit sucks!
  2. Hmmmph. by dcigary · · Score: 4, Offtopic
    Proof positive that the Slashdot editors only accept posts from people that they like. I submitted this on the 18th and it was rejected even before I could do a screen refresh.
    2001-11-18 18:41:49 Disney's Wireless Magic Kingdom (articles,news) (rejected)
    God, I love the smell of burning Karma in the morning....
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    ...my Karma ran over your Dogma...
    1. Re:Hmmmph. by jonnythan · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      Hmm..isn't it the case that one editor can reject a story, and it's just gone? Whereas many people may have submitted this, yours could have gotten read by an editor that didn't think it was /. worthy. LightHouseJ's (or whoever it was) happened to get read by an editor who thought it was.

      It's Slashdot, get the fuck over it.

    2. Re:Hmmmph. by TheTomcat · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      Not only that..

      if you have a good write-up, and not just "hey, look at this article about Disney and 802.11", it's more likely to get posted.

      S

    3. Re:Hmmmph. by Legion303 · · Score: 1, Offtopic
      You have to Slashdot Slashdot with submissions. Resubmit at a different time of day if the first one was rejected.

      -Legion

    4. Re:Hmmmph. by ChristTrekker · · Score: 3, Offtopic

      I completely agree with this theory. I've noticed that timothy tends to post the sort of stories that I'm interested in. It's only natural that the authors will pick the submissions that interest them, and throw the rest in the bucket.

      This points out a possible flaw in the /. authors' process. Perhaps instead of accepting/canning story submissions, authors should accept only and leave the others in the inbox. If nobody else accepts a story within 3 days, it automatically goes in the bucket. If michael cans a story, Hemos isn't going to be able to accept it any more. If it's submitted again the next day, maybe it will get lucky and Hemos will see it before michael, but you never know.

  3. Re:Not a worthwhile target by SaxMaster · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Why did you have to soil an otherwise insightful comment with the "its probably just a greedy jew thing" Admittedly its pretty true, but please, leave the jew jokes to the jews (like me :-D).

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    "Dancing is the vertical expression of a horizontal desire" --Robert Frost
  4. Re:Not a worthwhile target by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Sorry, I forgot to mention - I'm MOT too. My mom is an Israeli citizen in fact.

    ~wally
    (posting anonymously to preserve my precious karma)

  5. Re:Not a worthwhile target by silversurf · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    I not jewish and I'm still greedy :-)

    Seriously, I think we all are in some way or another, whether it's money or something else. After all, you commited credit card fraud, that seems pretty greedy to me...

    BTW, how is someone not supposed to take offense to that? I can think of about 1 million different ways to say the banks are greedy with about being a bigot.

    -s

  6. Re:Things the visitor can do besides surf the web by Mac+Nazgul · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    moderate this up, he makes a very valid point

  7. Re:Hack Disneyworld by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic
    Parade of Lights all flash in sequence to spell out "L33+ X1DD135 OWNZ JOO DIZNY"

    That's the hAx0R version. The "white hats" might do the same, but with a different phrase. (I won't say what, but it begins with an A and ends with an S.)

  8. Re:Are they near an airbase? by sharkey · · Score: 1, Offtopic

    RED LEADER, RED LEADER THIS IS TANGO ONE.

    Don't you mean:
    Red 5: "OK, we're going in, we're going in at full throttle. That ought to keep those fighters off our backs!"
    Red 3: "Luke, at that speed will we be able to pull out in time?"
    Red 5: "It'll be just like Beggar's Canyon back home!"

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    "Outlook not so good." That magic 8-ball knows everything! I'll ask about Exchange Server next.
  9. Re:Good reason why they'll never offer 'Net access by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    > some pervert had left up a XXX [...]
    > He wouldn't elaborate on what it was, but he said it shocked even him.

    Gee, I wonder what could have been so shocking?

  10. Re:Not a worthwhile target by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Ah, the "Mel Brooks Maneuver" (making fun of your own ethnicity in order to avoid getting lynched). I loooooved his movie "History of the World, Part I"

    --Josh Coalson

  11. Re:Are they near an airbase? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Then the infamous homosexual comment.

    Wedge: Luke, I'm in trouble!
    Luke : Pull out Wedge, you aren't doing any good back there!
    Wedge: Sorry!

    --Josh Coalson

  12. You are a troll whore. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    You are a troll whore. Encryption, 128 bit or otherwise, is not unbreakable.

  13. Tell that to the joker that bought $2300 of stuff. by Svartalf · · Score: 1, Offtopic

    Recently, I had lost my CC and had a new one issued- the only individual that I'd given the new number to was a Hell Desk employee at my ISP to get my autobilling straightened out. 3 days later someone bought some $2300 on the card from a car parts place in Houston (performance parts for some GM car...). I've gotten it straightened out- but they successfully used it.

    Almost nobody checks billing addresses over the phone or online.

    Nobody asks for a signature for mailorder or online purchases- how would they DO that.

    Nobody that I've dealt with in recent times asked for the validation code from the back of the card- in general, I don't believe they do.

    Nobody attempts to change the account- they just try to purchase with it. In many cases they succeed.

    All it would take for someone to take you for several hundred dollars is to make a duplicate card (Easy with a magstripe writer) and use it at those pay at the pump gas pumps. No validation, no checking, no PIN.

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    I am not merely a "consumer" or a "taxpayer". I am a Citizen of the State of Texas
  14. Funny thing I heard about Disney.. by jcr · · Score: 1, Offtopic

    I heard a rumor that some of the employees at Disney World in California started referring to the place as "Mauschwitz". Management got royally pissed, sent around a memo forbidding the use of the term, and without skipping a beat, everyone switched to "Duckau".

    -jcr

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    The only title of honor that a tyrant can grant is "Enemy of the State."
  15. Fill up their car several times... by Svartalf · · Score: 1, Offtopic

    Think for a moment that you might not catch a bogus $20 gas purchase- especially if it was done in your normal area of operation. They could concievably fill up 5 or 10 times if they're lucky enough.

    As for "everybody" running the addresses through the AVS- that might be your experience, but not mine. 1) If they had, this purchase that this joker made on my new account # wouldn't have went in the first place (wouldn't have made it through- no ID, etc.), and 2) I have yet to be accosted for drivers license, card, etc. for purchases not going to my house.

    I've not done computer equipment purchases via mail/online lately, so I don't know about that- but I DO know about other stuff and it doesn't seem to be as you claim.

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    I am not merely a "consumer" or a "taxpayer". I am a Citizen of the State of Texas
  16. Hmph... by Svartalf · · Score: 1, Offtopic

    The anti-semitism isn't becoming.

    Do you HONESTLY think that the SS is going to chase down someone ripping people off for a couple of hundred dollars here or there?

    Besides, with the numbers, all they'll do is purchase a handfull of things using a card that has some bogus name on the card that matches up with the bogus ID they have. Gasoline would be included with this because at that point because they just wouldn't be caring about it (If the Secret Service were all that special (I'm not saying that they don't do their jobs- it's just that there's not all that many of them...) there wouldn't BE much credit fraud- which isn't true at all.).

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    I am not merely a "consumer" or a "taxpayer". I am a Citizen of the State of Texas
  17. Re:Not a worthwhile target by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    >No offense intended, but it's probably just a >greedy jew thing

    No offense, but you are probably a MORON with few social or intellectual skills.

  18. Re:Not a worthwhile target by tim_maroney · · Score: 1, Offtopic

    For all the questions asked and objections raised, you have yet to either defend or apologize for your overtly anti-Semitic statement, "it's probably just a greedy jew thing." Is it your feeling that this nauseating comment was somehow justified, or that it is such a minor issue that it is beneath your notice?

    You said, "I'm proud to be a Black man." Well, congratulations, you've just reinforced the stereotype that all African-Americans are anti-Semites. Now that's something to be proud of!

    I'm glad I know it's not true, and that bigots like yourself do not represent the entire black community. But I see more than enough of this crap, and it makes me wonder just how bad the problem is.

    Tim

  19. Re:Not a worthwhile target by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Wow! Moderation conspiracies actually exist! I'd always suspected that.

    Bill Gates

  20. Jew-bashing.. by j-beda · · Score: -1, Offtopic
    To continue this off-topic flame-fest A question that might be of some interest is not if some, most, or even all Jews are greedy, but if they are more greedy than some standard or average or than some other group you want to compare them to.

    Or perhaps the question might be "is thinking that Jews are particularly greedy a useful method of thinking?"

    I don't know of any studies comparing greed levels (however that might be defined) of different groups of people, and I would doubt that there would be much statistically significant differences but I could be wrong.

    The second question of this being a useful method of thinking is probably easier to answer. While such thinking might provide a bit of protection from the occasional scam artist who is thought to be a Jew, living in paranoia from Jews is probably of little benefit. If you want to be paranoid, you might as well be paranoid about EVERYONE and protect yourself from all the greed around you.

    Or work on being a little more charitable yourself and try not to ascribe base motivations to others until you see some actual evidence for it on a case-by-case basis. You will probably live a much less stressfull life and perhaps make the world a little better for all of us.

    So endith the lesson.

    (As an aside, how do we even define who is a Jew from the "greed" perspective anyway? Socially, religiously or nationally/legally? Are all Israeli citizens "Jews"? Are all descendants of Abraham's second son Jews? Abraham's fist son's line lead to Mohammed, so I doubt we want to consider that group among the "Jews". Are people who do not attend religious services still Jews? Are people who converted to the religion part of the group? What about people who converted away? What about people of mixed descent?)