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@Home Network Approaching Shutdown

David Harris writes: "A bankruptcy court ruled today that the @Home network will be shutdown at midnight, unless the company reaches new deals with its cable partners and creditors. The decision is a victory for bondholders, owed $750 million by Excite@Home, whose motion asked the court to shutdown the network on grounds that AT&T's $307 million offer to acquire @Home's broadband network is not adequate and fair value for the network could only be found if a shutdown was forced." Read about it on excite.com, while you can. CNet has a good analysis of where things stand. 45% of the cable modem users in North America! Ouch.

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  1. Their own fault by evenprime · · Score: 5, Informative

    If they were a little more reasonable about their terms of service, they could have charged a little more. I would gladly have paid a small fee for the opportunity to run my own web server, or to talk to tech support people who didn't think my problems were due to not running windows. I moved to speakeasy because I wanted a more freedom about what to do with my computers and didn't want to be treated like a clueless luser by people who naturally assume that if it is not windows, it is broken

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  2. Re:As seen on Excite by Anonymous+Freak · · Score: 5, Informative
    ...here is the official announcement from Excite:


    Um, no. Just because it's on excite.com, doesn't make it official. It's actually an AP (Associated Press) newswire story that just about every news web site carries. It just so happens that Excite has a news web site (news.excite.com) that carried the story. It is exactly the same as when the cable television station MSNBC does a story on Microsoft. It's not an official statement from Microsoft, it's just a news organization reporting on a company, that, by coincidence, happens to be its parent company.

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  3. This could be huge for DSL by ApoxyButt · · Score: 5, Informative
    Well, maybe. It all depends on whether or not there's anybody waiting in the wings to fill the vacuum when Excite moves out.

    I work in the digital loop carrier industry, and the technology exists to extend DSL broadband to people outside of the normal DSL range of a mile or so from the phone company's Central Office. The company I work for makes a box that allows phone companies to send all their voice and data over fiber (or copper, or wireless) to a remote terminal, and then it's from THAT point that the 1 mile limitation kicks in.

    The problem for John Q. Dialup is that the phone companies are just too big and slow to put this technology out in the field. Our stuff is just now going through testing in SBC, but how long it will be before a large number of people can live 10 miles from the Central Office and still get DSL is anybody's guess.

    Right now, many of the people with the best broadband opportunities are actually rural customers! This technology I'm talking about is pretty attractive to smaller Mom & Pop phone companies because due to the low initial cost of this particular product.

    I got lucky: my aparment complex just happens to fall into one of SBC Ameritech's DSL sweet spots. I think when I get around to getting a house, I'm going to be looking very closely at the DSL availability!

  4. Is this right. News.com seems to disagree... by sterno · · Score: 5, Informative

    I just read the article on news.com which discusses this ruling but it seemed to make clear two things:

    1) that the parties must go back to the bargaining table
    2) that the service being disconnected was unlikely

    What it sounds like happened is that the judge said they can cut the contracts but there is nothing right now saying affirmatively that the service will be shut off. Basically this just means it is legal for excite to cancel the existing contracts so that they can re-negotiate them.

    So I don't think excite is out yet...

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  5. Re:AT&T@Home == excite@Home? by Xibby · · Score: 5, Informative

    Will I experience any interruptions with my AT&T Broadband high-speed cable Internet service?
    Your AT&T Broadband high-speed cable Internet service connectivity, e-mail and Personal Web pages will not be affected by Excite@Home's Chapter 11 bankruptcy filing. However, your home.excite.com home page may become temporarily unavailable.

    What will happen to my high-speed cable Internet service if AT&T Broadband's proposal to purchase the Excite@Home network is not approved?
    If the proposal to purchase the Excite@Home network is not approved, your home page content may be temporarily unavailable, but you will still have access to your e-mail and the Internet.

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  6. Not necessarily... by Ungrounded+Lightning · · Score: 4, Informative
    Even from this you can see what the problem was. ...
    Capacity for 5 million, while servicing only 10% of that is not a good business plan.


    Not necessarily.

    Suppose (hypothetically):

    Your network will support 5,000,000 subscribers,

    Your non-recurring costs are $1/subscriber-month,

    Your per-subscriber costs are $10/subscriber-month, and

    You charge $50/subscriber-month.

    This:

    Breaks even at 125,000 subscribers,

    Makes $195,000,000/month ($2.3 Billion/yr) at 5,000,000 subscribers, and

    Breaks down at 5,000,001 subscribers.

    Of course that's not what they did. Nevertheless, they were up to 73.4% of the design capacity of the network by 7/11. So (unless their business model didn't include making a profit until their capacity was saturated) I don't think lack of customers was the problem.

    With no data but that timeline I'd wonder if they underestimated their per-user recurring costs (such as support) or their network capacity (which maps back into per-user recurring costs through extra support when they saturate and the connections start to degrade).

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