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.museum TLDs are Live
GuNgA-DiN writes: "Several sites in .museum have now gone live: you can check out met.art.museum, stockholm.music.museum, and minnesota.science.museum, for instance. You can navigate the hierarchical structure of this TLD via index.museum, or go directly to an index page for a particular second level domain by going to that domain, e.g., art.museum.
Since the .museum TLD is still in its experimental phase, these domains haven't been delegated to their registrants yet, but resolve as CNAME records in the TLD root, pointing at the other domains each site already has. Thus, .museum addresses can currently only be used as additional addresses for sites that already have some other domain. MX records haven't yet been set up, so email to these domains won't yet work."
When did this happen? I didn't get thousands of spam mails about it.
I guess I'll have to get on the ball and register my .biz domains now before it's too late!
How completly usless.
:P)
Well, not entirely usless, although the choice of museum's as a class of institutions deserving a tld seems kind of random.
Otoh, I really like their index system, rather then having 2nd level domains up for grabs, although they seem to be allowing just about every catigory you could think of. I mean 'airguard.museum'? sci.museum and science.museum? and why does the louvre get a 2nd level? (those stuck up french
autopr0n is like, down and stuff.
Isn't "museum" a little too hard for the average net user to spell correctly?
This idea is only going to cause more problems...
In Britain some museums (eg the Natural History Museum) are counted as academic institutions so they appear in .ac.uk along with the universities. Strangely, the next-door Science Museum seems not to appreciate this and is redirecting from its old nmsi.ac.uk domain to something much less classy.
Darn, that Slashdot goatse indicator is spoiling the surprise of clicking on the links to find out what the domains actually are :-(.
-- Ed Avis ed@membled.com
Ignoring how stupid those new TLDs .museum
.aero really are... technically the MX is
and
already there:
obelix:chris$ host -t mx met.art.museum
met.art.museum is a nickname for www.metmuseum.org
www.metmuseum.org is a nickname for metmuseum.org
metmuseum.org mail is handled (pri=10) by proxy00.metmuseum.org
But of course no one told the mailserver...
220 mail00.metmuseum.org InterScan VirusWall NT ESMTP 3.5 (build 1294) ready at Sat, 01 Dec 2001 08:20:17 -0500 (Eastern Standard Time)
MAIL FROM:
250 : Sender Ok
RCPT TO:
550 Relaying denied to met.art.museum
How many different extensions are we going to have? How many people are going to actually use them?
.com name. Forget about .biz, or .info, or .museum, or .rabid_attack_wombles.
I think that the 'dot com' culture is too firmly entrenched. Businesses are always going to want to try and get a
Taffyd.
Nice domain! :) I'd love to have one. What is the criteria of becoming a museum ;)
Well, back to reality. Every country has a lot of museums. Large cities may have several dousins. But they don't get sorted after country, and that may be troublesome.
On the other hand, stockholm.music.museum. They categorize the museums in which fields they belong to. And that makes it quite clear. You know you're at the right place when you are at einstein.technical.museum, rather when you're at theeinsteinmuseum.com.
My humble opinion at least :)
"The assembler gave birth to the compiler. Now there are ten thousand languages." - Tao of Programming
You don't follow a CNAME to a CNAME and then follow the MX. That's not how it works.
Of course, technically, you're not supposed to have a CNAME to a CNAME in the first place.
ok then your [sic] infringing on my copyright! Could you as [sic] me next time before STEALING my comments for your own?
Well, the first test for a new TLD is usually this.
Was I suprised when I got the reply "There is no sex.museum". Then where are all those banners pointing at?
Make even shorter URLs - 8LN.org
I'm still struggling to see why anyone thinks Museums are worthy of their own TLD. It makes sense to have TLDs for areas of the net/web that can be expected to contain massively varying content (commercial, organisations, countries etc) but museums??
:)
How many times have you actually wanted to find the website for a museum and not been able to do so using any search engine?
The only people NOT capable of using a search engine to find a website aren't going to think "oh, maybe i should try http://index.museum/". I wonder if there is really an alteria motive by the companies who are bidding to run these new TLDs as some way of getting a foot in the door and controlling a bit of the web... But maybe I'm just cynical
Someone should setup the dot.com.museum to display all the defunct dot bombs :)
Knunov
Why do users with IDs under 100,000 or over 700,000 usually have the most worthwhile comments?
Since the .museum TLD is still in its experimental phase, these domains haven't been delegated to their registrants yet, but resolve as CNAME records in the TLD root, pointing at the other domains each site already has.
Why should a .museum TLD have an A record anyway? I can see a CNAME, pointing to the real machine name, and I can see an MX, also pointing to the real machine name, but the whole concept of .museum is a web thing. What we need is a WWW record, for now CNAME will have to do.
ok then your [sic] infringing on my copyright! Could you as [sic] me next time before STEALING my comments for your own?
Other than that, the .museum TLD is a little long for convenience.
"It is a greater offense to steal men's labor, than their clothes"
.. is this.
But it can be mistaken for 'music'
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I think this TLD is alot more useful than many people say it is. .info, .aero, and .biz all seem useless and trivial, but it appears like .museum can actually provide a good, up-to-date index of museums. I was disappointed my town's museum isn't online yet (http://indianapolis.museum), but it'll be interesting to see it once it goes up.
index.museum looks like it's been implemented pretty well so far, and it'd be even better with a search feature. I hope they continue to improve on it.
I disagree: .mp3 and .ogg would be memorable for any music fan.
Funny, that, considering CNAME means 'Canonical Name'
It is another attempt to impose power structures from the "real world" onto the net. When this idea was first discussed, many asked if the led museum would be included. I'm unsurprised to see that it's not. This is an attempt to draw a line in the sand between the 'respectable' who deserve the title of museum (the narrow closed circuit of fundraising dinners and inherited wealth) and the unwashed masses who might try to extend the idea of museum to something internet-centric.
The fact that this is implemented only as CNAMEs emphasizes that ICANN has polluted the top level namespace with sheer gimmickry. These bastions of privilege have no intention of surrendering their existing domains.
Instead of an orderly development of tld space based on compact representation for the most common areas, we are getting an expression of privilege and influence extended into the net. The nobles are riding across the peasant's fields, hunting the fox.
The real tragedy is that we have been unable to shake off ICANN. This utterly corrupt, elitist and short-sighted clique has no feeling for the natural flavor and development of the net. And yet the only thing which empowers ICANN is that we use the root name servers they recommend. Every attempt to build an alternate root seems to have fizzled, because the center of gravity remains with ICANN.
Until we find a way to migrate from ICANN-dependence, we can expect a continuing series of insults and abuses from them.
I think it would be spiffy if I could find the nearest Radio Shack around (if, say, I were new to my area) with a system like this. I could try radioshack.dallas.tx.us.com, and instantly see a site on the locations in Dallas. But--What if there were no Radio Shacks in Dallas? Ya don't suppose I could hit radioshack.index.tx.us.com, and I'd instantly see an index of all Radio Shack locations in Texas?
Sorry. Just more speculation from yet another convenience nut.
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And the Angel said unto me, "These are the cries of the carrots! The cries of the carrots!"
- national.museum.of.women.in.the.arts.art.museum
- nationalmuseumofwomeninthearts.art.museum
- theclevelandmuseumofarts.art.museum (museum o farts?)
- ici.exhibitions.nyc.contemporary.art.museum
- (my favorite) fundacio.pilar.i.joan.miro.mallorca.art.museum
All are registered, but none are used. Thank you, InterNIC.For more information, click here.
Most of the problems on the Internet are due to trademark and domain name conflicts.
Not surprising really - as virtually every word is trademarked - Alpha to Zeta or Aardvark to Zulu - MOST many times over.
I have been communicating with US and UK authorities about this.
Would it surprise you to learn, that they know the solution to these difficulties - yet hide it from you?
Like I say, MOST trademarks share the same words or initials with many others in a different business and/or country.
For example, the World Trade Organization (WTO) shares its initials with six trademarks in the USA alone.
Despite this, each domain could be made unique and totally distinctive - as trademarks are required to be, by trademark law.
When authorities could put trademark identity beyond shadow of doubt, they either are devoid of intelligence or corrupt.
Given their response - I have come to logical conclusion that they are corrupt.
Perhaps you would be interested to hear, that the solution was ratified by honest lawyers and a panellist judge of the United Nations World Intellectual Property Organization (WIPO.org).
I have WIPO.org.uk to broadcast the facts. As the United Nations WIPO.org take away similar named domains, do you not find that even slightly newsworthy?
I also have SWIPO.org - redirected to UN WIPO.org, to show disdain.
Please visit WIPO.org.uk to see the simple solution, to avoid 'consumer confusion', 'trademark conflict' and stop people 'passing off'.
Yes... I understand this.
Just pointing out that it's confusing for some.
is .movie
.movie to fix all that.
Every new movie has a website, and most have to tack "movie" on the end of the title. (ie: behindenemylinesmovie.com - I think that's an example) We just need
No sig for you.
And the question is...
"What was the most useless development in computers in the year 2000?"
Correct!
I'd like "Stupid Shit" for $500, Alex.
I can explanate how to administrate your network. You must configurate and segmentate it, so it can computate.
The cowards in authority have no honour. They have run out of EXCUSES, and will no longer answer me.
.REG - so they can claim world rights to words.
Trademarks are to identify source - not claim world rights to the word.
That is why they do not want
EOM
The MX is not what's misconfigured, the CNAME is (with the technicality that CNAMEs shouldn't point to CNAMEs, one that is very commonly ignored). As for the MX, I bet mail to that stupid .museum address is supposed to bounce.
Why do you think running NT makes it more likely to misconfigure? I would bet it makes it less likely, since Microsoft makes it much simpler to configure.
ok then your [sic] infringing on my copyright! Could you as [sic] me next time before STEALING my comments for your own?