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Evolution 1.0 Released
jdavidb writes: "I pulled up the Ximian redcarpet updater this morning and discovered that Evolution 1.0 is finally available! Now Outlook can start facing some serious competition, although there's still a long way to go. (Evolution does not yet emulate all the Outlook viruses, of course, nor does it integrate with Exchange Server.)" Here's Ximian's full announcement. Update: 12/03 14:59 GMT by T : Nat Friedman of Ximian points out that they're offering a software extension which does allow integration with Exchange 2000. There's good story on the new iteration of Evolution at NewsForge, too.
See press release at Ximian's site. Available early next at $69 a pop.
>Now Outlook can start facing some serious >competition, although there's still a long way to >go. (Evolution does not yet emulate all the >Outlook viruses, of course, nor does it integrate >with Exchange Server.)
A better way of putting this is "does not COMPLETELY integrate with Exchange Server". I'm running it with my company's Exchange servers, via IMAP, LDAP, and SMTP, and the only thing not working is Calendar and shared TODO.
Otherwise, download the binaries or source code.
Evolution is actually a very nice app and I use it at home, mainly because of the nice conduits avaliable for Palm synching.
I hope it's finaly a stable program now, cause it had lot's of nasty bugs.
Ciryon
Full compatability with MS Exchange Is coming
1) It won't yet do email alerts calendar events, or so the pop up tells me. So my cell phone won't beep me when a meeting is in ten minutes and I'm still eating burritos at the mexican restaurant on the next block. Sucks.
2) I can't expunge mail at all. It's got something to do with the UID EXPUNGE header while using IMAP and the commercial version of Sendmail running here. Pine can do it. Netscape can do it. So can Outlook. But Evolution can't. I've reported this issue, and unfortunately they didn't address it in the 1.0 release.
Evolution looks nice. But if I can't expunge my mail without loading up pine, then I'll stick with pine.
Bummer.
Software Wars
I am working at IBM and there are several packages for Lotus Notes (5.04 -> 5.08, even beta 6.0) working on Linux. Rpm and Deb included.. works great. It does use a customized install of wine, but it is very fast and I havent had any problems over the past 6 months using it exclusively
"Slack puts gnome in a really really dumb place (/opt/gnome) that none of the programs are by default told to look in for libraries and all that stuff."
/opt/gnome into /etc/ld.so.conf and rerun ldconfig
Easily fixed (on Slack 8):
1) put
2) when compiling gnome stuff use './configure --prefix=/opt/gnome'
and re-run ldconfig as root after installing a library.
Then there's no need to symlink stuff 'all-over-the-place'.
For those of you who just want the Evolution 1.0 binaries, and not the whole Ximian desktop, go to ftp://ftp.ximian.com/pub/ximian-gnome/ and get the following packages:
* evolution
* libgnome-pilot0
* libgtkhtml20
* libnss3
Note, I installed under Debian, so other systems may be slightly different, however, this should be a very good place to start
Yes, it'll work with IrDA. See http://www.pasta.cs.uit.no/pipermail/linux-irda/20 00-May/001426.html for details (not evolution-specific, but it doesn't matter; the backend's the same).
...it's not necessarily a busy mirror problem. I think it's real-carpet that's dying. I've had massive problems with it just hanging (and having to do kill -9's as root to get rid of it). I'm not the only one who has experienced this problem either; I've talked to others on IRC who have also had problems. The trick seems to be to remove everything out of /var/cache/redcarpet and then running it again.
:p But it was a Red Hat 7.2 system upgraded to the latest Helix Gnome only about a month and a bit ago).
;-)
By the way, I just connected and it seems there is an "Urgent Update" for red-carpet, which brings it up to version 1.1.4-ximian.8. (Sorry, I can't tell you what my previous version was, 'cuz I already upgraded.
Gnome is looking hella good these days. I'm sure Evolution is just as good, but I have no reason to give up Pine anytime soon.
I just loaded 0.99.2 onto my system the day before yesterday this way and, so far, it works great. Imported all of my old mail (mbox format) without a problem. Only downside I found was having to key in all of my email addresses...
Hope this helps,
C0deMonkey
Ximian was waiting on the Evolution 1.0 release to release the Mandrake 8.1 version of it. Expect an 8.1 release in the next two weeks.
Matthew P. Barnson
I learn what I think when I read what I write
S/Mime is slated for 1.1 or 1.2 release. See http://bugzilla.ximian.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1350 for details.
Matthew P. Barnson
I learn what I think when I read what I write
For those with no access to the IBM intranet, there are a couple of other links that might help.
here and here
Once that's done, proceed with your upgrade as if you never had Ximian Gnome installed on your system...
Matthew P. Barnson
I learn what I think when I read what I write
Just copy all your local Outlook-folders to the mail-server.
Connect with Evolution, and copy them back.
I think you can mail all your contacts to yourself, but I didnt get vCard to work with the last beta. Haven't tried the last release.
This is only going to work on PC's Loaded with Linux Running XIMIAN/GNOME
;-) (Current storage capacity is 2.5 gigs; I desperately need a new hard drive...)
Not true; you only need the required libraries installed in order to run evolution, you don't need gnome to be running. You can quite happily run it on a machine running KDE, or WindowMaker, twm, etc. You may well lose some of the default integration stuff, but that should be fixed just by changing file type associations to point at your chosen apps.
Even if you install Gnome in its entirity, you'll only blow a hundred megs of disk space or so, and even I can afford that
Cheers,
Tim
It's official. Most of you are morons.
since it is developed using bonobo compents, if you don't use the calender or todo list, they don't get loaded into memory and you will never notice.
the anonymous servers take up to 24 hours to mirror from the locked down servers as they always have... do you have ANY idea how much data is in the gnome CVS tree?
Actually I think they would pay about the same. You have to subtract the client OS license since they will be running Linux instead of Windows. Then once you do that you subtract the Office license since you will be using OpenOffice or StarOffice 6.
Regardless right now I think they are targetting developers who have a Linux box for development and then a windows box for their administrative stuff (email, office, etc.) They are enabling the devleoper to get rid of the Windows box. Should this prove successful (and OpenOffice/Staroffice 6 actually works well) I think they will start to target the general business user.
Q.
A1: Yes
A2: No, it was started because he didn't want a proprietry toolkit being the foundation of an open source desktop. Having a proprietry extension to an open source email client is not a foundation, you don't need to use it if you don't want to, and it doesn't provide anything that the majority of people who care about open/closed source care about.
The point of Evolution is to provide a complete open-source replacement for Exchange. At the moment the remote calendar/tasks etc are missing, but that can be fixed. The proprietary connector is *only used* if you are stuck with the proprietary Exchange server.
I repeat it since I have points and the mods aren't bothering to read at 0 today:
The plugin runs as a component, not a library, so the communication is via a CORBA interface. Since no linking occurs (merely CORBA communication) there is no GPL violation, nor any need to re-license.
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