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"Dark Matter" Observed

An anonymous submitter writes: "The space news site Space Flight Now has an article about the first direct "observation" of so called dark matter. Galaxies appear to have more gravitation (mass) than we can currently observe. The theory of dark matter tries to explain this missing mass by the existence of massive bodies too faint to detect. These bodies include everything from dim stars to exotic particles called WIMPs. The previously dark matter, a dwarf star, was detected when it passed in front of a brighter blue star, creating a gravitational lens. It is thought that there are many more like it out there creating all that extra gravity, we just can't see them." Wired has another story; or see the European Space Agency's original article.

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  1. How long...? by Reliant-1864 · · Score: 3, Funny

    How long until Dark Matter is banned as a circumvention device for light waves?

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  2. Fate of the Universe . . . by JJ · · Score: 4, Interesting

    The fate of the universe is held by dark matter. Without dark matter, there is insufficient gravity to bind all matter together forever. If there is enough dark matter, with its attendant gravity, then eventually the universe will collapse back onto itself. Probably the end result of that would be another Big Bang.
    What a pair of choices.

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    1. Re:Fate of the Universe . . . by archen · · Score: 4, Funny

      "we're all gonna die"

      I'm going to die in about 50 years (give or take 10), if you're going to die in a couple trillion, I wouldn't be that depressed, but maybe you better live it up while you can.

      Expand into nothing, compressed to a single point, eaten by a giant galactic space goat; it's all the same to me. I'd be more concerned about our sun burning out in a couple billion years myself....

    2. Re:Fate of the Universe . . . by hubie · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I would be more inclined to say that the fate of the Universe is dependent on whether neutrinos have mass. There are far more neutrinos than any other matter predicted or known (except for photons). If the neutrino has even a tiny mass, the result is most likely a closed Universe.

  3. Peek-a-boo by DaoudaW · · Score: 3, Funny

    The result greatly strengthens the argument that a large fraction of the 'normal' Dark Matter in and around our Galaxy exists in the form of MACHOs and that this Dark Matter is not as dark as previously believed!

    Does anyone else have the feeling we are just playing peek-a-boo.

    "Hey, its dark in here. Where did everyone go?"
    "Ummm, move your hands!?"
    "Oh, there they are. That was really weird!"

    You've just got to love cosmology...

  4. Um, if it's a star it can't be dark matter.... by LMCBoy · · Score: 4, Interesting

    The observed object is a dwarf star. It is luminous. This article should have been titled "Confirmation that one of the MACHO objects is not Dark Matter".

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    1. Re:Um, if it's a star it can't be dark matter.... by nerdlyone · · Score: 3, Informative

      I think the term "dark matter" does not necessarily apply only to non-luminous matter. I think it is used to refer to any unobserved matter that can account for the apparent gravity we see in galaxies. MACHOs have been a candidate for dark matter for a while, because they are mostly failed stars that do not emit light (at least not enough for us to see), though they do interact with the EM field. Other candidates for dark matter are indeed non-luminous, even non EM interacting (WIMPS-weakly interacting massive particles--that only interact with the weak nuclear force and gravity, but not EM so they can't be "seen" using light).

    2. Re:Um, if it's a star it can't be dark matter.... by Captn+Pepe · · Score: 3, Informative

      The term "dark matter" has wound up being overloaded in astrophysical discussions, because it has been used to name the solution to a number of different problems.

      First, people noticed that we cannot observe enough luminous matter to either produce a flat universe, or account for the dymanical behavior of large-scale systems. This was long assumed to consist of halos of cold gas, dust, brown dwarfs, etc.

      However, cosmological considerations (especially primordial nucleosynthesis) rules out this scenerio, because we can use the deuterium mass fraction to calculate the ratio of photons to baryons in the early universe. We know how many photons there are (per comoving volume, as usual), and it turns out that there are only enough baryons to account for about 4% of the density needed to produce a flat universe. Since the universe is not noticably non-flat, we can assume there is "a lot" of non-baryonic matter out there, in axions, massive neutrinos, or something more exotic. This stuff is called non-baryonic dark matter, unsurprisingly, and often gets confused with the other kind.

      Finally, in the last five years or so we have received a couple of cool new data points: the angular size of the first harmonic mode of perturbations in the cosmic microwave background, and the distance scale to various redshifts, as seen using type Ia supernovae. The CMB data tells us that the universe really is flat, to high accuracy; otherwise, the perturbations -- we know how big they should be after all -- would be "lensed" by the curvature of spacetime. The supernovae data tells us that -- BIG surprise! -- the universe's expansion is accelerating, not slowing down at all. This implies that there is actually more vacuum energy than matter and energy combined. Best guess, the universe is roughly 70% vacuum energy, 30% matter. For some bizarre reason, people have been calling this the "dark energy" lately. Thus, even more confusion about what you mean when you say "dark matter".

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  5. Galactic vs. extragalactic microlensing by KjetilK · · Score: 5, Informative
    Yep, these are really interesting observations! Galactic microlensing, which is discussed in this article, is a field which is growing rapidly and has attracted a lot of interest. I look forward to seeing the lightcurves of this event.

    It was indeed Bohdan Paczynski who wrote the first paper about that specific phenomenon, if I recall correctly, the paper was titled "Microlensing on small optical depths". And indeed, he was the one who invented the term "microlensing".

    However, I'm more concerned with "extragalactic" microlensing. The funny thing is that stars in remote galaxy can cause microlensing of even more remote quasars. This was first discussed by Chang and Refsdal in an article in Nature, December 6 1979.

    The great thing about this is that in galactic microlensing, there are very few MACHOs between us and the stars, so you would have to watch a lot of stars (millions), whereas in extragalactic microlensing, there will be lots of stars, so microlensing events happen all the time. You only need to separate it from the intrinsic variations of quasar...

    Now, galactic microlensing has been a so much bigger field of study than extragalctic microlensing, we haven't really got that much attention. In part, it can be becuase galactic microlensing gives so much more solid results, but then, it is just addressing what's going on in our backyard, while the extragalactic microlensing really deals with the universe... :-)

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    1. Re:Galactic vs. extragalactic microlensing by KjetilK · · Score: 4, Informative
      Well, the term isn't really in use. Most probably, most people would think about Einstein's speculations around gravitational lensing. Einstein considered gravitational lensing, but only deflection by stellar masses, and concluded therefore that the phenomenon would most probably remain unobserved. Since "galactic microlensing" refers to unresolved images of an object lensed by things in our galaxy, one could argue "galactic macrolensing" should refer to resolved images of objects lensed by things in our galaxy, but no such object has been seen, and Einstein was probably right in that we won't see it for a long time.

      "Macrolensing", by itself, usually refers many different situations, but characterized by that several images of the object is resolved. There are a few known objects. This database includes only multiply imaged quasars, mostly lensed by a single galaxy, but you can have lensing by galaxy clusters as well.

      Actually, the question arised some controversy here among my fellow students as to whether what is known as "weak lensing" should be considered a part of macrolensing, but after consulting The Book, we figured it probably shouldn't.

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  6. Re:damn it... by kaisyain · · Score: 3, Informative
    .all this time, physicists have assumed that "dark matter" - the matter that provides a great deal of the gravitational force that holds the universe together - is "invisible" or "unobservable" or in some extreme cases "existing in a separate yet intertwined reality".

    No they haven't. Let me quote from a Scientific American article on dark matter.


    Astronomers and physicists offer a variety of explanations for this dark matter. On the one hand, it could merely be ordinary material, such as ultrafaint stars, large or small black holes, cold gas, or dust scattered around the universe--all of which emit or reflect too little radiation for our instruments to detect.


    Hey, notice that part where they say a variety of explanations are offered?

    (BTW, what do you mean by "invisible" other than it doesn't have light bouncing off of it?)
  7. Interesting Dark Matter Properties by BadBlood · · Score: 3, Interesting

    If in fact dark matter is matter which exists gravitationally but will not interact w/the EM spectrum, wouldn't you be able to feel it with your hands but not see it? (Provided you have a small bit of it nearby)

    Then, couldn't you somehow use this "material" for stealth purposes? Body armor making you invisible, etc. etc.

    I find it amusing that as humans, we can only detect the existence of something if we can collide EM particles w/it (photons, etc.) We should rephrase a familiar motto to be "I can interact w/EM particles, therefore I exist." :)

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  8. Too much popular science by epepke · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I can COMPLETELY believe the idea that dark matter is just regular matter that isn't being illuminated or is not emitting enough radiation for us to detect! But it seems that this, the most obvious explanation, is the last one that physicists want to believe.

    I used to work in a research institute that had a lot of physicists in it, and I think most of them would prefer the mundane explanation. However, they would not rule out wild possibilities, and the minority that preferred the wild possibilities would not rule out mundane explanations.

    I think that your problem may be with the reporting of science, which I agree sucks. One thing I have learned (rather painfully) upon my transition from research science to industry is that scientists operate and think very differently from the way journalists think. The journalist tries to translate what the scientists are saying into what he and/or she thinks is the language of most people. This causes distortion, for two reasons:

    1. There is a distortion of information when it is translated into the worldview of the journalist
    2. The journalist may not be particularly good at understanding the worldview of most people, either

    I dealt with a lot of journalists during my 13 years as a research scientist, and I cannot think of a single instance where the journalist got the story even approximately right. The worldview of the journalist is simply too different from the worldview of the scientist. Very, very few scientists are gifted enough with words to provide alternate explanations, and even when they do, they are usually ignored by people who have read a lot of journalistic reviews of science and love to tell the scientists that they're wrong.

    Scientists love to toss around wild guesses and argue fiercely about them. The reason they do this is that this process stimulates imagination and the generation of hypotheses, which give hints on what to look for. The sky is just too big simply to passively look around and gather evidence that you will synthesize later. That approach might be ideal if we had an infinite number of scientists, but we don't. The next best thing is to have a diverse community of scientists, each looking for a different thing. Most may be looking for mundane explanations, but a few will be following wild hairs. This is not a bad thing, because whether the wild hairs turn out to be supported or unsupported, knowing this information reduces the number of ideas that have to be considered. Eventually, if we're lucky, a consensus eventually emerges. But, remember, this is the first observation of a class of objects, not the last.

    So, some people will be looking for A, and some will be looking for B, etc. Some of them will get evidence that confirms their guesses; some will not, but all will contribute to the sum of knowledge.

    It's a bit like doing detective work. You can't just put cameras everywhere and feed the output into a massive algorithm that solves all possible crimes. Instead, you have to follow leads, guesses, hunches, etc. The only difference in science is that a lot of scientists are doing it, and they tend to keep each other honest.

    Now, the journalist wants to make a good story, above all. The mundane does not make a good story. Neither does the concept of a working hypothesis, a guess, or a hunch. So, the journalist (or ESA public relations department or whatever) writes a dramatic story focusing on the exciting bits.

    Then, finally, when it gets to the readers, they conclude that something is an Explanation from On High, when it is really nothing of the kind. That's just what happened to it in the process of translation through the journalist.

    One thing about science that usually doesn't get around is that the scientist is always in doubt. No scientist is really, deep down, 100% sure of anything. He and/or she may be close to 100% sure, but that isn't a trivial difference; it's a vast chasm in a philosophical sense. This is a very difficult thing to learn, and some scientists forget it. The best scientists, however, do remember it, and some are articulate in describing it, such as Richard Feynman. It isn't a need that most people have to deal with at all, and so explanations tend to be ignored.

    For the notion of "dark matter," nobody is even close to 100% sure about anything. The whole need to look for dark matter is because, without it, the equations and predictions relating to the big bang look ugly and unbalanced. That may seem like the flimsiest of reasons, until you remember that radio and relativity were developed as a result of precisely that kind of aesthetic judgement of Maxwell's equations. It could all turn out to be totally wrong, which leads to another poorly understood aspect of science: the most effective evidence is that which is against an idea, not for it. However, the best way we know of to find evidence against an idea is to look for evidence for an idea. This is another psychological trick: if you are emotionally attached to an idea, you will try much harder to show it is correct, and a failure to do so means more than a failure of a casual effort. If you do unintentionally distort evidence to support your hypothesis (this happens all the time, far more than outright fraud), there is always somebody else who will poke holes in your ideas. This is good, not bad, but it's very hard to translate that into the language of most people, where auditors are the enemy, not friends.