sirPaul writes: "PHP 4.1.0 is out @ php.net. "It includes highly improved performance, especially under Windows; A new, and more security-friendly way of accepting form variables; Output compression, and much, much more." Check out the changelog."
New Input Arrays
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n-baxley
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· Score: 3, Interesting
The new input arrays sound like a great idea that is long overdue. Bravo to the PHP team for producing a well thought out implementation and still providing backward compatability.
Now y'all can rip me apart for being positive in a/. post.
MS working on PHP??
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stienman
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· Score: 3, Interesting
I was really surprised to see this tidbit:
We want to thank Brett Brewer and his team in Microsoft for working with us to improve PHP for Windows
Not that I'm against MS making PHP faster on windows (the environment I run it in currently - XP, Apache, PHP), but you'd think that MS would see PHP as a competitor to ASP.
-Adam
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Re:MS working on PHP??
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stienman
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· Score: 3, Interesting
Actually, MS is internally very competitive. Apparently when faced with a choice between two competing technologies, Mr Gates often decided to wait awhile and see who produced better results. It can be very cut-throat.
You can read more about this on other sites on the internet - I have a relative working there, but of course we never talk about stuff like that (as most MS employees are discouraged from talking about such things, and business and pleasure don't mix) so I have, at best, third hand knowledge, but it seems reasonable.
-Adam
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Re:MS working on PHP??
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DrSkwid
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· Score: 2, Interesting
maybe you don't get it but ASP means active server pages, PHP is just one of many languages one can use in Active Server Pages, another is VB Script, but perl, python, ruby, rebol are also included.
ASP is simply the name Microsoft chooses to confuse the world with. The rest of the computing planet uses CGI as the acronym. By using ASP it FUDs people because then people think that Unix doesn't have ASP.
So you see PHP isn't a competitor it's an ally. What MS want is NT/2k/XP deployment not vb script.
Once deployed it's hard to change, even if you did think that p*'s cross platform nature was going to help you. Once your scripts become complex enough then 'MS only' stuff leeches in (pathnames for instance) and moving over becomes too much hassle and for what gain?
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Re:MS working on PHP??
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mgkimsal2
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PHP is just one of many languages one can use in Active Server Pages.
Sorry, wrong. VBScript, Jscript, and to a lesser extent PerlScript are languages that have ASP 'hooks' - 'seamless' integration into the ASP environment. PHP is not one of those languages, unless something has DRASTICALLY changed, and I think we'd have seen a more specific announcement about that.
PHP runs as an ISAPI module under Windows - hopefully it does NOW anyway. It was pretty flaky in the past. Hopefully this 4.1 release remedies a lot of that. A few core PHP people were invited to MS some time ago to discuss how to make the ISAPI version more stable. There were apparently many threading issues, and the PHP team didn't have much in the way of specific MS experience - not as much as the Unix experience the developers bring to the table.
PHP is most definitely a competitor, as is perl. WHY would I tie myself to coding ONLY on windows (via VBscript, ASP, etc) if I can just as easily take that code and port it elsewhere? Same issue as Java - my PHP code will run without change on a unix server or a windows server. So it's most certainly a competitor, no doubt about that. Throw in the price tag for PHP/Perl/etc ($0) and it really *should* be scaring MS some. At least it probably rattles a few cages in certain departments there.:)
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The new input arrays sound like a great idea that is long overdue. Bravo to the PHP team for producing a well thought out implementation and still providing backward compatability.
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I was really surprised to see this tidbit:
We want to thank Brett Brewer and his team in Microsoft for working with us to improve PHP for Windows
Not that I'm against MS making PHP faster on windows (the environment I run it in currently - XP, Apache, PHP), but you'd think that MS would see PHP as a competitor to ASP.
-Adam
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(quote) It totally smokes .asp (end quote)
.NET crap comes.
I have not tried the 4.1 yet, but 4 had these problems/annoyances:
1. Session variables were more complex to use than ASP's
2. Lack of a wrapper function makes name conflicts more likely for form vars, session vars, cookies, etc.
3. Case sensitivity. I hate that.
4. Semicolons
5. No direct module-level vars
6. Too many arrays needed to access
mySQL.
On the good side, it won't be totally overhauled like ASP will when that
Table-ized A.I.