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Apple OS X, BSD and Jordan Hubbard

We've had a number of posts noting that Boston.com's digitalMASS has a very decent article on Apple's OS X, BSD and Jordan Hubbard.

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  1. OS X by ShadeEagle · · Score: 0, Troll

    Is it as good as I've heard some say? I don't trust many reviewers, unfortunately...

    Basically, it's going to affect whether I buy a Mac or not - it's certainly a step up (on the Mac side) from my Doorst...I mean Mac Classic...

    1. Re:OS X by TummyX · · Score: 0, Troll

      ease of development with GNU tools, fantastic memory management, rock solid stability, multi-user ability, and a horde of other features that Microsoft can only dream of


      Troll alert! Windows XP supports GNU tools thru cygwin. Also visual studio + gnu tools makes a much better enviroment. XP has rock solid stability, better hardware support, multi user ability (including logging on graphically with multiple users - Apple can only dream of that).

    2. Re:OS X by 'This+is+false.' · · Score: 0, Troll

      MAC os X sux a lot.

      --
      "It's because they're stupid. That's why everybody does everything."- Homer Jay Simpson
  2. Re:Slashdot admits that open source programmers st by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    We love you, WeatherTroll! We want you to snot us, WeatherTroll!

  3. Still the same complaint though. by RazzleFrog · · Score: -1, Troll

    The propietary hardware will always hold me back from a mac. I like having the ability to install any OS on my machine.

    1. Re:Still the same complaint though. by RazzleFrog · · Score: 0, Troll

      Who modded this a troll? Propietary hardware isn't a legit beef? Sounds like a sour-grapes macaddict.

  4. Who Cares by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    More people bought something else
    instead of a Mac even WebTV is catching up !

  5. Apple = ultimate monopoly ? by sh0rtie · · Score: 0, Troll

    Just imagine if Microsoft owned the hardware and the software like Apple !

    oh yeah so they do

  6. Is Jordan betraying his ideals? by Astral+Traveller · · Score: 0, Troll
    I can understand that, with Wind River's recent disowning of FreeBSD, Mr. Hubbard needs a more secure job position, but I can't help but wonder if , by joining Apple, he is abandoning his ideals for open-source software. Apple is one of the most closed companies ever, historically being unwilling to share hardware specifications or even tolerate imitations of their Macintosh look and feel. With a horde of lawyers poised like attack dogs, ready to bite the ankles of any possible patent violator, often shitting on Apple's own dedicated fanbase, is this the place for an idealist open-source developer like Jordan to be spending his time?

    I frequent the FreeBSD mailing lists, and I have a large cluster of FreeBSD boxes powering the demanding computer applications my Fortune 500 employers demand, and it is the only operating system I have ever seen able to take the punishment my servers take on a daily basis. Jordan has practically abandoned the lists since joining Apple, and the discussions as a whole feel more hollow and less directional without his guidance. With the continuous slippage of FreeBSD 5.0's development, I fear for the future of my operating system. I can't help but feel that Jordan has abandoned his project to rot like BeOS and the Amiga.

    1. Re:Is Jordan betraying his ideals? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

      "I am a goat fucker." -- Stallman v. 19-98

  7. Re:That's my department, boy! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    Wow, WipoTroll, you really know how to snot! And you can scramble Slashdot's HTML, too! I love boys who do that! Come over to my place sometime!

  8. READ THIS POST RIGHT NOW by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    Important Information For Slashdot Readers

    You can be just like me!

    It has recently come to my attention that the entire Slashdot crew engage in homosexual activities. CmdrTaco is one such person, and has dedicated his life to spreading the ideals of Taco-Snotting while enjoying the benefits of it. For further information on Taco-Snotting please refer to George WIPO Bush's Taco-Snotting FAQ which can be easily found by searching for the Slashdot journal of George WIPO Bush or by looking in the comments of Slashdot articles (Usually modded -1).

    It has also come to my attention that CmdrTaco has other interests besides homosexuality (Believe it or not). One such interest includes a budding music career with a song titled "Gaping Anus". The details are sketchy on this topic but I do know that besides the lead vocals of CmdrTaco, it includes Timothy and CowboyNeal (Also members of the Slashdot crew). There has been no release date set for this album or which record label it will be produced under. I believe CmdrTaco is planning to set up his own label, Taco-Snotting Records, with the intention of releasing the song on a cd-single with various remixes as soon as possible (To catch the current popularity of the Taco-Snotting fad). On a side note, I would not believe this fad will ever wear out (like a Snotted-out-geek); I am sorry to say Taco-Snotting is here to stay :-(. Various remixes of Gaping Anus will include: "Extra Jizz", "Snot Me Baby One More Time", "www.Goatse.cx", and "Once You Taco-Snot, You Can't Stop". I am sure many, many, more are sure to come. I predict this album will be a very hot seller this holiday season, especially with in or out of closet homosexuals, and with those who have no self-respect (Readers of Slashdot).

    Through a good, non-homosexual friend of mine, I have recieved a copy of the lyrics to the Gaping Anus musical composition. Included after the lyrics is a very speical tribute written by yours truely. Perhaps CmdrTaco will ask me to provide the vocals. Please feel free to read the lyrics and post your comments and disgust. Don't forget to share your disgust with CmdrTaco himself either.

    BTW, please do not reply with the intention of flaming me because the lyrics are a rip-off of Insane Clown Posse's "Slim Anus". For more information on ICP and Slim Anus refer here and here. CmdrTaco is the author of this fine musical work and not me. So, it is obviously he who has ripped off ICP and not me. Thank you.

    Hi, my name is what?
    My name is who?
    My name is Gaping Anus
    Hi, my name is huh?
    My name is what?
    My name is the fudgepacker
    Hi, my name is what?
    My name is who? (Excuse me)
    My name is the nutlicker
    Hi, my name is what? (Can I have the attention of your ass?)
    My name is who?
    My name is the buttsniffer

    Hi, kids do you like Anus?
    I let Linus Torvalds fill up my butt for a chance to be famous (Uh huh)
    Wanna copy me and do exactly like I did? (Yeah)
    Try Taco-Snotting and get your butt pumped out like I did?
    My brains dead weight
    I'm tryin to get my head straight
    But I can't figure out
    Which Slashdot editor I wanna impregnate
    Timothy said, "CmdrTaco you a cutie" (Uh huh)
    "I'll give you a deal, let me up in that booty" (OK!)
    Well since age 12 I felt like I'm someone else
    Cause I choked my original self Taco-Snotting him (Yup)
    Got pissed off and ripped Pamela Lee's tits off
    She don't know how to do Chris D
    I'd suck his dick off

    Hi, my anus who?
    My anus what?
    My anus it gets tapped dawg
    Hi, my anus (Excuse me)
    My anus
    My anus every now and then gets plugged up
    Hi, my anus (Can I have the attention of your ass?)
    My anus
    My anus is occasionally reamed out
    Hi, my anus who?
    My anus what?
    My anus really needs to be filled up

    My boss wanted to fire me yesterday
    I told him to take his pants off, hooked him up, he let me slide
    I pinched his ass
    He winked at me
    He chased me around the desk
    I told him "Come and get me!"
    Walked in the strip club
    Had my jacket zipped up
    Flashed the bartender
    And I tried to feel his dick up
    Extra-terestrial runnin over pedestrians
    In a space ship while they screamin at me
    Let's just be friends!
    99% of my life I was lied to
    I just found out my Mom screws more guys than I do (Damn)
    I told her I'd grow up to be a famous Taco-Snotter
    She met Michael, I couldn't believe it when he slapped her
    You know you blew up when the women rush the stands
    And try to touch your hands
    But I need me a man
    This guy at Gay Al's strip club asked for my autograph (Dude can I get your
    autograph?)
    So I signed it Dear Alan Cox, thanks for the support
    Nice ass!

    Hi, my name is huh?
    My name is who? (Excuse me)
    My name is (They call me the pore plugger)
    Hi, my name is what?
    My name is who?
    My name is the inch itcher (Excuse me)
    One of Slashdot's homosexuals
    They call me the butt itcher
    Hi, my name is what?
    My name is who?
    My name is (I've been called Hemos' butt boy)

    Stop the tape this gaylord needs to be locked away (Get him)
    Cliff, don't just stand there operate
    Or feel up my balls and buttcheeks
    Anal lube got my ass greasy for weeks
    Stick your manhood between my cheeks (Yup)
    Am I coming or going
    I can barely decide
    I just drank a pint of semen
    Dare me to drive? (Go ahead)
    All my life I was very deprived
    CowboyNeal's butt is too sexy to hide
    Take your pants off Neal I don't mind
    Clothes rip like the incredible Hulk
    I Taco-Snot when I talk
    I do any guy that walks
    When I was little I used to get so hungry I would throw fits
    Sometimes I sit and wish Hemos had a set of tits
    CowboyNeal: "Get behind me CmdrTaco and grab me by my hips"
    If I do that then I can't kiss you on your lips
    By the way if you see my Dad
    Ask him if he seen my spread in Gay House Porno Mag

    Hi, my anus who?
    My anus what?
    My anus gets tapped up
    Hi, my anus who?
    My anus what?
    My anus it's always getting plugged up
    Hi, my anus who?
    My anus what?
    My anus occasionally reamed out
    My anus it needs to be filled up


    Your anus
    Your anus
    Your anus is always getting plugged
    Your anus
    Your anus
    Your anus is always getting stuffed
    You wanna diss us?
    We don't even know you you little bitch
    You wanna sit there and diss us?
    You little bitch I'll slap your face off
    That's what happens when you go up against the Slashdot Trolls trick
    You little bitch (Laughs)
    Gaping Anus!

    1. Re:READ THIS POST RIGHT NOW by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

      Because Christmas is on the horizon, I thought I would share a suitable tale. This is so you, the reader may be able to avoid the terror I have been.

      Last Christmas, while visiting family, I spent a few nights in a Best Western hotel. It was comfortable yet affordable and I really enjoyed and appreciated their friendly and knowledgeable staff. Why didn't I stay in my family's house you ask? Well... there were children present and as children often are are a nuisance and would inturrupt my morning and nightly rituals. On my first night at the Best Western, I proceded to...oh, I think a song would better illustrate this...

      Bite my lip and close my eyes
      Take me away to paradise
      I'm so damn bored I'm going blind
      And I smell like shit


      Oh, sorry, wrong song...

      Exit light
      Enter night
      Take my hand
      Off to never never land


      Yeah... uh, thats right.

      As I drifted off to sleep, I was startled by noises. The residents in the next room were making downright too much noise. I was about to bang on the wall but was curious at what was the problem so I pressed my ear up against the wall and listened. These are the words that have been forever burnt into my previously virgin mind:

      CmdrTaco:
      Nowadays everybody wanna talk
      But nothing comes out
      When they move the lips
      Its just a bunch of jibberish
      And motherfuckers act like CmdrTaco aint' gay
      Everybody forgot
      What happened?
      What up Linus

      Linus Torvalds: Yeah

      CmdrTaco:
      It's all about Linus
      It's all about Linus

      Linus Torvalds: Linus is in the house

      CmdrTaco: Yeah, thats right Linus is in the house

      Linus Torvalds: Come here pull down your panites you little bitch

      CmdrTaco: Aiight, hold up dawg go easy on me and shit you ripped my asshole last time

      Linus Torvalds: Come get some of this Monolithic Kernel

      CmdrTaco: Let me take off this white shirt so you can see my bird chest

      Linus Torvalds: You wanna be famous?

      CmdrTaco: Uh huh

      Linus Torvalds: Spread that bitch ass

      CmdrTaco: It's all about Linus

      Linus Torvalds: Yeah, Linus

      CmdrTaco: Uh, dawg, your hurting me dawg

      Linus Torvalds: Your the loosest Slashdot editor you little bitch

      CmdrTaco: Your ripping my asshole dawg, hold on a sec, wait don't bust

      Linus Torvalds: Yeah

      CmdrTaco: Hold on a sec, don't bust

      Linus Torvalds: Come here

      CmdrTaco: Wait, uh wait, uh, hold on don't bust

      Linus Torvalds: Take all of this Monolithic Kernel

      CmdrTaco: Hold on don't bust, do it on my lip like a milk ad

      Linus Torvalds: Linus is in that ass

      CmdrTaco:
      It's all about Linus
      It's all about Linus, ahh ahh

      Linus Torvalds: You wanna be famous you little bitch

      CmdrTaco: Man don't tell CowboyNeal dawg please, it's all about Linus Torvalds

      Linus Torvalds: Aiight, now get the fuck out of here

      CmdrTaco: Aww shit


      I constantly wonder why God has allowed me to hear this horror. Maybe it is because I am the chosen one and the Time of Purification is at hand...

  9. Darwin isn't enough by Astral+Traveller · · Score: 1, Troll

    Does one token open-source project really make up for Apple's intense closed-mindedness? One need only look at their recent past to see that they are still up to their old schemes, what with the recent stink over Aqua-like themes and their continuing refusal to open the Sorensen codec, which powers nearly all the streaming media on the web. Darwin seems to me more like Apple trying to get a free ride by encouraging their users to develop their core operating system for them, while they reap the profits and keep their platform under an iron grip.

  10. JEALOUSY ALERT! by Astral+Traveller · · Score: -1, Troll

    So the fact that I'm a successful consultant and software developer makes me a troll? I can only wonder what small-minded and petty living you make for yourself. Please, if you aren't going to come up with a thoughtful reply to my posts, don't bother posting until you can see beyond your parents' basement. Thank you.

  11. uhh... lets see.. oh yeah, HAHAAHA by ForWhomTheHellTrolls · · Score: -1, Troll

    HAHA you linux idiots are so retarded and pathetic it makes me laugh HAHAHAAHAHAHA

  12. I think you meant to say by ForWhomTheHellTrolls · · Score: -1, Troll

    Open Sores programmers stink...

  13. Re:Mac OS X.1 and Open Source Developers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll
    This is where Apple has succeeded as a core business, making computing simpler for the artistically, rather than the technically minded. The best thing Open Source can do is aid the Apple userbase in proving that the Mac is a viable alternative. Yes, Linux and BSD themselves as well as all the other systems out there, deserve to continue to be the primary focus of most efforts. But it just may be that the most effective way to open up the operating systems market will be to back the entrenched underdog.


    I disagree entirely. Backing Apple just because they are the underdog is not good enough. Apple has to EARN our support by making sure that if we were to make them the #1 OS company over Microsoft et al, that they would not turn around and use this market power the same way Microsoft has to quash new ideas just because they compete. Unfortunately, Apple does not have a particularily gleaming history of support for either open standards or fair competition. If they want the market share they will have to earn it. In the meantime, I will continue to contribute my talents as a graphic artist to the various open source efforts underway now, none of which involve Apple.

  14. Intel Only by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    I`m only interested in OS X if it is released for Intel processors. Apples hardware is far too expensive for what it does.

  15. Re:Mac OS X.1 and Open Source Developers by ForWhomTheHellTrolls · · Score: -1, Troll

    Dir sir, here is ten cents, dial someone who cares. Let me get back to the taco-snotting encyclopedia, shall we? Good day.

  16. *BSD is dying by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll
    It's now official. Netcraft confirms: *BSD is dying

    Yet another crippling bombshell hit the beleaguered *BSD community when recently IDC confirmed that *BSD accounts for less than a fraction of 1 percent of all servers. Coming on the heels of the latest Netcraft survey which plainly states that *BSD has lost more market share, this news serves to reinforce what we've known all along. *BSD is collapsing in complete disarray, as further exemplified by failing dead last in the recent Sys Admin comprehensive networking test.

    You don't need to be a Kreskin to predict *BSD's future. The hand writing is on the wall: *BSD faces a bleak future. In fact there won't be any future at all for *BSD because *BSD is dying. Things are looking very bad for *BSD. As many of us are already aware, *BSD continues to lose market share. Red ink flows like a river of blood. FreeBSD is the most endangered of them all, having lost 93% of its core developers.

    Let's keep to the facts and look at the numbers.

    OpenBSD leader Theo states that there are 7000 users of OpenBSD. How many users of NetBSD are there? Let's see. The number of OpenBSD versus NetBSD posts on Usenet is roughly in ratio of 5 to 1. Therefore there are about 7000/5 = 1400 NetBSD users. BSD/OS posts on Usenet are about half of the volume of NetBSD posts. Therefore there are about 700 users of BSD/OS. A recent article put FreeBSD at about 80 percent of the *BSD market. Therefore there are (7000+1400+700)*4 = 36400 FreeBSD users. This is consistent with the number of FreeBSD Usenet posts.

    Due to the troubles of Walnut Creek, abysmal sales and so on, FreeBSD went out of business and was taken over by BSDI who sell another troubled OS. Now BSDI is also dead, its corpse turned over to yet another charnel house.

    All major surveys show that *BSD has steadily declined in market share. *BSD is very sick and its long term survival prospects are very dim. If *BSD is to survive at all it will be among OS hobbyist dabblers. *BSD continues to decay. Nothing short of a miracle could save it at this point in time. For all practical purposes, *BSD is dead.

    Fact: *BSD is dead

  17. YOU WILL RUE THE DAY! by che_guevara_foon · · Score: -1, Troll
    Comrades, the time has come to cease tolerating the rampant faggotry and nazi censorship of the Slashdot editors! It is time to throw off the yoke of foon oppression and show them what they are made of!

    VIVA LA REVOLUCION!

    --

    VIVA LA REVOLUCION!

  18. It's dead, Jim. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll
    Netcraft officially confirms: *BSD is dying

    Yet another crippling bombshell hit the beleaguered *BSD community when recently IDC confirmed that *BSD accounts for less than a fraction of 1 percent of all servers. Coming on the heels of the latest Netcraft survey which plainly states that *BSD has lost more market share, this news serves to reinforce what we've known all along. *BSD is collapsing in complete disarray, as further exemplified by failing dead last in the recent Sys Admin comprehensive networking test.

    You don't need to be a Kreskin to predict *BSD's future. The hand writing is on the wall: *BSD faces a bleak future. In fact there won't be any future at all for *BSD because *BSD is dying. Things are looking very bad for *BSD. As many of us are already aware, *BSD continues to lose market share. Red ink flows like a river of blood. FreeBSD is the most endangered of them all, having lost 93% of its core developers.

    Let's keep to the facts and look at the numbers.

    OpenBSD leader Theo states that there are 7000 users of OpenBSD. How many users of NetBSD are there? Let's see. The number of OpenBSD versus NetBSD posts on Usenet is roughly in ratio of 5 to 1. Therefore there are about 7000/5 = 1400 NetBSD users. BSD/OS posts on Usenet are about half of the volume of NetBSD posts. Therefore there are about 700 users of BSD/OS. A recent article put FreeBSD at about 80 percent of the *BSD market. Therefore there are (7000+1400+700)*4 = 36400 FreeBSD users. This is consistent with the number of FreeBSD Usenet posts.

    Due to the troubles of Walnut Creek, abysmal sales and so on, FreeBSD went out of business and was taken over by BSDI who sell another troubled OS. Now BSDI is also dead, its corpse turned over to yet another charnel house.

    All major surveys show that *BSD has steadily declined in market share. *BSD is very sick and its long term survival prospects are very dim. If *BSD is to survive at all it will be among OS hobbyist dabblers. *BSD continues to decay. Nothing short of a miracle could save it at this point in time. For all practical purposes, *BSD is dead.

    Fact: *BSD is dead

  19. Dead is *BSD. Dead. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll
    Netcraft now officially confirms: *BSD is dying

    Yet another crippling bombshell hit the beleaguered *BSD community when recently IDC confirmed that *BSD accounts for less than a fraction of 1 percent of all servers. Coming on the heels of the latest Netcraft survey which plainly states that *BSD has lost more market share, this news serves to reinforce what we've known all along. *BSD is collapsing in complete disarray, as further exemplified by failing dead last in the recent Sys Admin comprehensive networking test.

    You don't need to be a Kreskin to predict *BSD's future. The hand writing is on the wall: *BSD faces a bleak future. In fact there won't be any future at all for *BSD because *BSD is dying. Things are looking very bad for *BSD. As many of us are already aware, *BSD continues to lose market share. Red ink flows like a river of blood. FreeBSD is the most endangered of them all, having lost 93% of its core developers.

    Let's keep to the facts and look at the numbers.

    OpenBSD leader Theo states that there are 7000 users of OpenBSD. How many users of NetBSD are there? Let's see. The number of OpenBSD versus NetBSD posts on Usenet is roughly in ratio of 5 to 1. Therefore there are about 7000/5 = 1400 NetBSD users. BSD/OS posts on Usenet are about half of the volume of NetBSD posts. Therefore there are about 700 users of BSD/OS. A recent article put FreeBSD at about 80 percent of the *BSD market. Therefore there are (7000+1400+700)*4 = 36400 FreeBSD users. This is consistent with the number of FreeBSD Usenet posts.

    Due to the troubles of Walnut Creek, abysmal sales and so on, FreeBSD went out of business and was taken over by BSDI who sell another troubled OS. Now BSDI is also dead, its corpse turned over to yet another charnel house.

    All major surveys show that *BSD has steadily declined in market share. *BSD is very sick and its long term survival prospects are very dim. If *BSD is to survive at all it will be among OS hobbyist dabblers. *BSD continues to decay. Nothing short of miracle could save it at this point in time. For all practical purposes, *BSD is dead.

    Fact: *BSD is dead

  20. thanks, but that's not the way I see it by Erris · · Score: 1, Troll
    Apple has contributed back TONS of software to the community. The BSD license said they didn't have to give anything back at all, but Apple did. The opened up their entire base OS. They have provided patches, fixes and enhancements to BSD. They work with BSD developers on a daily basis. But all you can do is complain that it isn't Debian. Go crawl back in your hole.

    Let's stick to the facts instead of name calling. They have not opened their entire base, and they continue to punish anyone who would violate their "look and feel". If they had really opened everything up, every Linux distro would come with Quicktime, DVD recording software and many other Apple goodies. The choice of underlying OS is not the issue, it's all the extra effort they go through to protect their goofey little IP. If they took advantage of FreeBSD, fine. My preference is for OpenBSD, but so what? The idea is that they should just concentrate on what they think is so important, look, feel, backwards compatibility issues, and and not the rest of it.

    Is it so absurd to think of them pooling their resources to make Debian or some specific BSD better? Why don't they tap into a nice pre existing user community instead of going it alone all the time? I mention Debian because it's distrobution method is superior.

    Oh yeah, they might put their central reporting requirments where they put their termination clause.

    --
    DMCA, Hollings, Palladium. What might have sounded like paranoia is now common sense.