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Red Hat And Lineo Respond To MS Embedded Linux FUD

jeffy124 writes: "Red Hat and Lineo, the major spearheads of Embedded Linux, have said that Microsoft's recent white paper comparing Linux and Windows XP embedded is full of inaccuracies, false facts, and overall distorts the value of Linux in general. Lineo has gone as far to say it flat out lies about Linux. ZDNet has Lineo's response, Red Hat comments, and a summary article." Updated by HeUnique: LynuxWorks has also wrote a response (only this one is a bit more detailed).

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  1. What did you expect? by FortKnox · · Score: 3, Funny

    Honestly, did you expect them to come back with "yup! There right! Everything we did is crap now!"

    Obviously, both sides are biased and think their product is better.

    The only way to see which one is better is an independent, non-biased study of the two.
    Even then, though, I'm sure one will be better for some applications, and the other for other applications...

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    1. Re:What did you expect? by Webmoth · · Score: 5, Funny

      I didn't realize an embedded system NEEDED plug 'n play support.

      I mean, how many devices are going to be plugging into your toaster?

      # /sbin/modprobe bread
      # /usr/local/bin/toast
      toast v0.1 alpha
      Usage:
      toast [flags] slot-device
      Flags:
      -s n number of slices (increments slot-devices by n-1, default n=1)
      -c XX color; (one of dry, golden [default], crispy, burnt)
      -e eject toast upon completion (default)
      +e do not eject toast
      slot-device the first slot you are toasting in (default /dev/toast0)
      Examples:
      toast # makes one slice of golden toast in the first slot
      toast -s 2 /dev/toast2 # makes two slices of golden toast in third and fourth slots
      toast -c golden /dev/toast0 -c burnt +e /dev/toast3 # ejects slot 0 but not slot 4
      # /usr/local/bin/toast -s 1 -c burnt -e /dev/toast0
      # /usr/bin/eject /dev/toast0
      # killall -9 firealarm

      Somehow, I don't think so. But if I know the Linux community, someone will implement. And put into a crontab. For perfect toast tomorrow morning as you are getting out of bed. If only we had a changer device (toast jukebox?) then we could implement an automatic jellier.

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  2. Normal for them by briggsb · · Score: 5, Funny

    This isn't the first time that Microsoft has lied about XP.

    The bad thing about this is that people will only see the Microsoft lies and not the rebuttals by Lineo and Redhat. The people here on Slashdot already know this about MS, but the rest of the public doesn't. That's what billions of dollars of marketing dollars will buy you.

  3. Something is wrong in Redmond... by mwalker · · Score: 5, Funny

    ...when these kind of resources are used to attack what is essentially a straw man. If they were going to attack a target with FUD, why wouldn't they attack the market leader, WindRiver VxWorks?

    Proof positive they're irrationally scared by Linux.

    1. Re:Something is wrong in Redmond... by Mignon · · Score: 3, Funny
      WindRiver ... own[s] the ... embedded market.

      Maybe Microsoft should petition the DOJ to investigate WindRiver's monopoly position in the embedded market.

  4. Re:Tell that to average users by nick_burns · · Score: 4, Funny

    The same thing happened to me. My computer became absolutely useless once I saw those first Windows XP commercials. I immediately went out and bought it so I could use wireless networking, Instant Messaging, and CD Burning. I then played some Madonna and flew around while high on angel dust.

  5. Monopoly, anyone? by CTho9305 · · Score: 2, Funny
    Embedded Linux offers a standard kernel but no standard device level application programming interface (API). There are multiple implementations of other major OS components so developers end up working with different programming environments and tools for each device, decreasing efficiency, limiting code re-use and increasing application development time.
    For example, there areat least five different
    • window managers and at least four competing browsers, increasing programming complexity and reducing the pool of available developers.

    oh, no! competition!
  6. Gotta love the FUD by zurkog · · Score: 2, Funny

    From the white paper (describing Embedded Linux):
    For example, there are at least five different window managers and at least four competing browsers, increasing programming complexity and reducing the pool of available developers.
    Translation:
    We sell a black bicycle, while these "automobiles" come in at least five colors and four models, increasing your available choices.
  7. Re:Whoops, looks like you've got egg on your face by Pseudonym · · Score: 4, Funny

    According to Microsoft...

    • Windows XP: Business model that is better aligned with your business for the long term
    • Wind River: Wind River's business model favors Wind River

    I'm convinced!

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