Quake 2 Source Code Released Under The GPL

neet by Anonymous Coward · 2001-12-21 17:06 · Score: -1, Offtopic

this is interesting

Wee... by Anonymous Coward · 2001-12-21 17:06 · Score: -1, Offtopic

About damned time.

1st post by Anonymous Coward · 2001-12-21 17:07 · Score: -1, Offtopic

1st post

Re:Really A great Thing by peripatetic_bum · 2001-12-21 17:14 · Score: -1, Offtopic

oh my, an AC lets me here his opinion.

Gosh, i dont know what to say as I dont knwo Who to say it too.

oh my, the horror

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No thanks, John. by SilentChris · 2001-12-21 17:31 · Score: -1, Offtopic

"from the thanks-again-john dept"

The problem is, as an academic exercise, it goes against nearly all the "rules" of having others learn about your code. It was once a lovely 3D engine, now it's akin to releasing the hardware schematics for the TI-99/4A.

If you're going to release the source, why not go whole hog? They already have copyrights stemming back many years.

I think that if he really should deserve reverance, he should release the source *as it happens*. There is such a small percentage of the population that would actually download and compile the source for Quake 3 Arena. If the copyright laws stand, he could release the code under a heavily-modified GPL (say, the idPL) and basically state you can use the engine, just not the artwork. Those who would argue that they make significant money off licensing the engine are fooling themselves. They are a multimillion dollar company, and every new Quake or Doom game nets them more millions. They're percentages for licensing revenue must be paltry.

I get a little angry when people villify certain members of the technological community for SKIRTING the finer aspects of it. It's like revering Steve Jobs more than Woz (which does happen).

Carmack drives expensive cars that very few people can afford -- he could stand to give away the full source code at the time the game is released so that the academic world can study his graphic routines. As such for now, he only seems like the snob I once read about in an interview. Asked if he felt he learned anything from his teachers, he said, "Not much, because I was smarter than they were". Being a decent technological coder doesn't exempt you from hubris.

Re:Responsible and Generous by Anonymous Coward · 2001-12-21 17:33 · Score: -1, Offtopic

How is giving you more rights then copyright allow restrictive and controvertial? Idiot

Have a nice SLASHDOT CANDY CANE by Anonymous+Cornered · 2001-12-21 17:40 · Score: -1, Offtopic

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Re:And its now in cvs by Anonymous Coward · 2001-12-21 17:47 · Score: -1, Offtopic

No it isn't, you damn liar! This is absolutly false! Jackass!

Re:Responsible and Generous by Anonymous Coward · 2001-12-21 17:47 · Score: -1, Offtopic

YHBT. YHL. YAND.

WARNING -- FILE CONTAINS GOATSEX PICTURES by Anonymous Coward · 2001-12-21 17:47 · Score: -1, Offtopic

Subject says it all.

WARNING -- DO NOT READ THE PARENT POST, SUBLIMINAL by Anonymous Coward · 2001-12-21 17:50 · Score: -1, Offtopic

The parent post is a subliminal GOATSEX picture, do NOT read it. Thank you.

Re:Responsible and Generous by Anonymous Coward · 2001-12-21 17:53 · Score: -1, Offtopic

your?

Re:Responsible and Generous by Anonymous Coward · 2001-12-21 17:55 · Score: -1, Offtopic

phrase?

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Re:Responsible and Generous by reaper20 · 2001-12-21 18:06 · Score: 1, Offtopic

Agreed .... that is why he is The Carmack ...

Funny how even today, Q3A is still the standard for 3D gaming. Carmack's code is clean, easily portable, and scales well. You could be benchmarking Q3A 10 years from now, and I think it would still be viable. Pure gold ... the standard bearer for OpenGL ... Sometimes I think it's a "waste" that he's spoiling those talents on video games (as much as I love them). Imagine 100% of his effort going to KDE/GNOME/Xfree or the kernel.

You da man, John.

Quad Candy Canes -- ENJOY !!! by Anonymous Coward · 2001-12-21 18:08 · Score: -1, Offtopic

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Re:Really A great Thing by kberg108 · 2001-12-21 18:08 · Score: 0, Offtopic

F**K those idiots I couldn't agree with you more. Sure there are other 3d engines but carmack did it best, first, and cheapest (by him self).

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thank you by ArchieBunker · 2001-12-21 18:11 · Score: -1, Offtopic

ahhh the usefulness of the lameness filter never ceases to amaze me. wanna bet if you pasted the script to generate that it would bitch?

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Only the State obtains its revenue by coercion. - Murray Rothbard

Merry FUCKING XMAS -- Have a CANDY CANE !!! by Anonymous Coward · 2001-12-21 18:14 · Score: -1, Offtopic

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Re:Responsible and Generous by dimator · 2001-12-21 18:38 · Score: 1, Offtopic

I'm not too big into PC FPS games; I haven't got the time to get good at them, and getting my ass handed to me in the mean time really sucks. Playing iD games is still fun though, if not only to study their designs and principles, on the cutting edge of the art form which is video games. I plan to show my support to a company that kicks as much ass as they do by continuing to buy their titles.

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python -c "x='python -c %sx=%s; print x%%(chr(34),repr(x),chr(34))%s'; print x%(chr(34),repr(x),chr(34))"

It's OK by Anonymous+DWord · 2001-12-21 18:51 · Score: 1, Offtopic

You can say "damn" here, we're all mature enough.

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"If he thinks he can hide and run from the United States and our allies, he's sorely mistaken." Bush on bin Laden

Re:It's OK by Error27 · 2001-12-21 19:29 · Score: 1, Offtopic

Ok. Thanks, for the heads up. :)

dfgdfsgsd by Anonymous Coward · 2001-12-21 19:14 · Score: -1, Offtopic

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Is Santa real? by tagplazen · 2001-12-21 19:21 · Score: -1, Offtopic

I was a devout unbeliever, but Lord of the Rings, Final Fantasy X, and now this, I'm sure starting to think I might be wrong.

Hey, big jolly guy, if you're still doling out these fabulous holiday goodies, please remember that letter I sent you about smoking cigars in a bathtub full of nitro with Fairuza Balk!

Carmack rocks. Other game programmers might try, but it's for reasons like this we'll always love the man.

Provolone? Or Cheddar? by Anonymous Coward · 2001-12-21 23:27 · Score: -1, Offtopic

My penis smells of cheese. I wonder why. I don't remember rubbing any cheese down there.

hot or not by Anonymous Coward · 2001-12-21 23:56 · Score: -1, Offtopic

girls:
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http://www.ratemypicture.com/profiles/46433.shtm l
http://www.ratemypicture.com/profiles/78973.shtm l

guys:
http://www.ratemypicture.com/profiles/38652.shtm l
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Re:What do you enjoy more? by Anonymous Coward · 2001-12-22 00:31 · Score: -1, Offtopic

I applaud your coprophagy.

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