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U.S. Penalizes Ukraine for Abetting 'Piracy'

The Politech mailing list has a note and follow-up on new trade restrictions levied against Ukraine, since they haven't complied with the U.S.'s demand for 'an optical media licensing regime.' John Gilmore's response puts the issue in perspective. Update: 01/03 23:08 GMT by M : The RIAA has a press release about the trade penalties and response to Gilmore.

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  1. Looks like the US... by UberOogie · · Score: 5, Interesting
    ... is going after targets it can afford to bully. I'd like to see them try that with China, or India.

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  2. Are color laser printers really tagging? by Deagol · · Score: 5, Interesting
    From the article:

    "Reader, in case you didn't know, every color Xerox machine and color laser printer prints the serial number of the machine on every page they produce, covertly hidden in the output, under a long-standing private "arrangement" with the US Treasury Department. I have been unable to confirm whether this is also true of black-and-white xerox machines."

    I'm as paranoid as the next PGP-using, hard-drive encrypting, tin-foil-hat-wearing guy. BUT... I have a really hard time buying this, and I cold not locate any creditble documentation on Google.

    Anyone have any good links?

    1. Re:Are color laser printers really tagging? by wolf- · · Score: 5, Interesting

      [1] http://www.jj-johnson.com/copiers2.htm
      [2] http://www.jj-johnson.com/copiers.htm
      [3] http://www.c-prompt-dev.com/bulletin.0119.htm
      [4] http://www.naqp.org/staging1/press/copier_fraud.ht ml
      [5] http://www.parascope.com/articles/0197/xerox.htm

      Back in late 1998, a fella by the name of Michael Castle, I think he was a republican from the north east, said that his committee was considering tagging laser printers the same way that color copiers are already tagged. Search yahoo or google looking for color copier references instead of laser printers, might help a bit in your results.

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  3. Re:Double Standard by BlaKnail · · Score: 3, Interesting

    It's not a double standard. Any CD-R manufactured in the US is given a serial number that has the potential to be traced. The Ukraine is printing CDs that would be untraceable, hence the gov't want to extend its protective eye over foreign manufactured goods, and if they don't comply....push huge taxes and tariffs on them.

  4. Re:Human Rights vs. IP by mickeyreznor · · Score: 5, Interesting

    not to mention that china is practically the capital of copyright infrigement.

  5. The core issue by syrupMatt · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Do companies operating under one countries legal structure gain the same amount of protection when operating (or having their goods sold) in another country?

    I find an interesting correlation here between "lassaie faire" business practices and the anti-corporation/IP movement. The movement wants corporations to recieve no help from the government for their business practices (IP, relief from economic hardship, etc), which are essentially leftist ideals. However, the fairly right ideal of lassaise faire essentially espouses the same thing, no? By all means correct me if I'm off base here.

    (btw: sorry for the poli-labeling, but it helps to illustrate the constrasts in my point.)

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  6. Re:Uhhh... wait a second... by RelliK · · Score: 3, Interesting
    They speak Russian in the Ukraine, right?

    They speak Ukrainian in Ukraine. Russian is close enough but *ahem* some Ukrainians don't like it. It's kinda like speaking English in Quebec... :-)

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  7. Re:American Citizenship Responsable? by renehollan · · Score: 5, Interesting
    Responsible? That's debatable, of course. You can't have responsibility without the freedom to chose one course of action over another, and the American voter does seam rather impotent these days.

    Perhaps the question should be, "Will the citizens of a country be held accountable, to some outside standard, for their government's actions?" And to that, I think the answer is a resounding YES!

    Sooner or later, if someone is pissed off by what you do, or what they perceive you as doing, they will seek to do you harm. You have a choice: refrain from the action that offends, or prepare to defend against the attack that will come. The choice depends, of course, on one's perception of risk and fair play.

    The notion of "do unto others as you would have them do unto you" certainly seams to be a good start at identifying "fair play" even as it can be interpreted differently by the parties involved. I am not a religeous person, but that mantra does seam to pervade many of the world's prevelent faiths and generally comes off as a "good idea".

    But, against that standard, I think we can agree that the U.S.A. has flexed its muscles in ways that it would not like to have flexed against it, and thus has violated that golden rule. Does it come as a surprise then that this pisses some people off? And that some of those who are pissed off might managage to express that by killing a few thousand people in a rather public and spectacular fashion?

    Right or wrong doesn't come into it: piss people off and you run an increased risk of dying. This does not mean that one should roll over for every tin-pot dictator, but it does mean that one should examine one's government's actions and decide if they truly serve one's best interests and security.

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  8. Re:Uhhh... wait a second... by RelliK · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Ahem, I am originally from Ukraine (or USSR I should say :-), and I speak both Ukrainian and Russian fluently. But whatdya know? Some Anonymous Coward knows better.

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