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Is CD Copy Protection Illegal?

ribbiting writes "US Rep. Rick Boucher, D-Va. is asking RIAA execs to explain how they can collect royalties on various blank media at the same time that the RIAA members are implementing copy protection mechanisms, with particular reference to the Audio Home Recording Act (AHRA) of 1992." Glad someone is asking the question.

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  1. Did we do this? by gnovos · · Score: 4, Informative

    FINALLY! Some congress-critters are beginning to think that the RIAA might not be the next best thing since apple-pie. I wonder if this is in any way the result of the wonderful efforts of this community and others like it. It is a nice thing to see when you see the Great Machine begin to slowly turn the right way...

    But don't stop now. Not only should you continue to keep those letters and emails flowing, but you should also send new letters and email praising the efforts of those congress-folk who make a good descision, after all, they like to get a pat on the head as much as the next person...

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  2. Re:No, I guess by aussersterne · · Score: 3, Informative

    Did you bother to read the article at all?

    They're getting PAID by us consumers NOT to make copy-protected CDs under an existing law.

    The question is whether it's fair to REQUIRE consumers to pay a "tax" to the record companies for the privilege of being able to copy CDs for personal use and then for the record companies to copy-protect CDs anyway. It's a great deal for the record companies at the consumers' expense: free money and they don't have to do anything in return.

    If they're going to sell copy-protected CDs, they should no longer get their "protection money" for blank CD sales.

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  3. Re:In Canada... by Anonymous+DWord · · Score: 5, Informative

    It's not a tax, it's a "levy." :) But the RIAA doesn't really have anything to do with that in Canada. The money goes to Canadian artists, based on record sales, which is the part that bugs me. They could give all this cash (22c/disc, currently) to promote up-and-coming bands, but it's all going to Celine Dion and Bryan Adams. GenericGarageBand doesn't see a dime. Not to mention every time you download and burn *BSD (Linux/Solaris/whatever), you're giving money to the music industry.

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  4. Re:No, I guess by Cy+Guy · · Score: 4, Informative

    You aren't free to not pay the taxes on blank media that they want (except by not buying blank media, but a lot of us have legitimate need for CDRs, etc).

    Actually as far as CDR's are concerned you are free to avoid paying the tax, just buy Data CDRs instead of Music CDRs. There is virtually no difference between the media, except that Audio CD to CDR burners such as you might have in a audio component system, won't work with the Data CD. CDR burners for PCs don't care.

    Of course making a copy of an audio CD onto a Data CDR would be a violation of the same act, but until the RIAA and the recording industry in general start complying, I can't see that they should have any expectation that consumers will.

    Why is it that this hasn't come up before, and does anyone know how this act affects MP3's? Should they be considered legal as long as you burn them to media on which you have paid the royalty tax?

  5. the bargain by terrymr · · Score: 2, Informative

    SCMS & the blank disc royalty was the bargain struck between congress and the industry to allow private home copying. If they fail to uphold their side of the deal it's only fair that they should be held accountable.

  6. Re:The part that bugs me by z4ce · · Score: 3, Informative

    Sorry, but this isn't true unless you're buying the special Audio CD-Rs not generic blank media. Many(most?) home audio recording equipment will only support the Audio CD-Rs. There is no tax for the computer CD-Rs...

  7. The Law: AHRA details by mr.+roboto · · Score: 5, Informative
    So the issue here seems to be an argument that cd copy protection violates the Audio Home Recording Act of 1992. Find a breif summary of the law here, and the actual text of the law here.


    The main thrusts of the law are:

    -No copyright infringment suit can be brought against someone making home digital recordings.

    -Retailers have the right to sell copying equipment and media, so long as they contain serial copy protection.

    -The RIAA collects a royalty of 2% on copying equipment and 3% on media.


    That the RIAA might be violating this law by making copy-proof cds is not immediately apparent from a quick reading. In fact, the definitions of what is and is not a "digital musical recording" do not seem to hinge in any way on the "copyability" of the recording, and the only qualification for entitlement to payments is that an entity is making and distributing recordings so defined.


    The point that copy-proof cds violate the spirit of this law is a good one. I think that any argument that the letter of the law is violated is weak, however. Anyone who can determine otherwise would make me happy, though, since IANAL.


    As a final point, the fact that a congressman is looking into this might make violation of the letter of the law irrelevant since congress, of course, has the power to create new law.

  8. Re:Boucher Gets It (tm) by BetaJim · · Score: 3, Informative
    You are certainly right about Rep. Boucher. I live in the district he serves in SW Virginia, so I also see the local side of things. Boucher seems to work tirelessly in two areas: helping our district (which hasn't been the same since the coal industry has slumped) and technology issues. I don't have warm feelings toward many politicians (I use to be down right cynical), but meeting and listening to one good politician made me reevaluate things.

    Do move to VA, it is a very nice state :)

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  9. Thank you, Representative Boucher! by Katharine · · Score: 5, Informative

    Doesn't look like there is actually anything in the Audio Home Recording Act that says that the RIAA members can't do what they are doing. (Moral considerations aside.) Apparently, the drafters of the Act back in 1992 didn't think that there would ever be enough copy protection to worry about. Of course, that's why the Act was passed-- the recording industry was all whipped up about the revenue it was going to loose as a result of people making digital copies.

    Here's the text of the Audio Home Recording Act.
    http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/ch10.html:
    (Arranged in easy to navigate sections from Cornell Law School)
    http://www.hrrc.org/html/ahra.html
    (Full text on one page from Audio Home Recording Rights Coalition)

    Subchapter C is the part that is particularly interesting in that it sets out the details on royalty payments. You will have to cross reference to the definitions section is Subchapter A, however, in order to fully understand who is entitled to collect payments. Love the method of splitting up the royalty payments!

  10. FINALLY someone is paying attention to this by jms · · Score: 5, Informative

    Finally someone is paying attention to this issue. I've posted this information in a couple of slashdot threads, and here it is again. It's one of the most incredible recording industry lies/ripoffs. Maybe now it will get some attention.

    The upshot of it is that every time you purchase a digital audio recorder, or blank digital audio recording media, such as audio CDRs, you pay a small statutory royalty into a fund. This fund is collected by the Federal Government, and turned over directly to the music industry. The name of the fund is the DART fund. DART stands for "Digital Audio Recording Technology". The best source of information on the DART fund is right here

    These documents are very interesting. They show how the money was paid out. The law was written to allow all of the major copyright interests to gather together and collect all the money in one lump sum. According to the first report on the page, we find that 99.997% (LITERALLY!) of all of the statutory royalties collected on blank digital audio media (mostly CDRs), and digital audio recording devices went to the following organizations:

    Broadcast Music, Inc. (``BMI'');
    the American Society of Composers, Authors and Publishers (``ASCAP'');
    SESAC, Inc. (``SESAC'');
    the Harry Fox Agency (``HFA'');
    the Songwriters Guild of America (``SGA'');
    and Copyright Management, Inc. (``CMI'')

    Copyright Management, Inc. is a blanket organization that represents all of the major record labels.

    In other words, all of the people who are raising hell that they aren't being paid when people burn music onto CDRs are being ...

    you got it ...

    paid every time a blank CDR is purchased!

    However, nowhere in any of these web pages will you find the actual dollar figures. The reports go to laughable extremes to avoid disclosing exactly how much money we are talking about. For instance, according to the report, for the 1995 funds collected, 99.998034% was paid to the music industry, 0.001966% was paid to one individual claimant, and 0.000614% was paid to Ms. Alicia Evelyn.

    I obtained the actual royalty yearly figures by contacting Ms. Evelyn, one of the individual claimants. Ms. Evelyn is a songwriter who, unable to obtain any royalty payments from ASCAP for her work, petitioned the copyright office directly for payment. She read me these numbers over the phone which she received in the course of her research. If you do the math, you'll find that she received a few pennies for her efforts. Literally.

    Here are the total amounts collected year by year since 1992. These statutory royalties were all paid out to the recording industry:

    1992 $118,227.42
    1993 $520,162.84
    1994 $521,999.64
    1995 $473,592.20
    1996 $397,152.52
    1997 $969,178.06
    1998 $1,978,457.93
    1999 $3,551,030.86
    2000 $5,285,246.32

    So, while on the one hand, the music industry is claiming that they are not being paid when individuals make audio CDRs of their music, yet on the other hand, they are quietly collecting millions of dollars in statutory royalties from consumers when they purchase blank digital audio media.

    The key here is that these are statutory royalties. They are NOT a tax. They are described as royalties in the law, and they function exactly as royalties.

    A royalty is what you pay in exchange for the right to make a copy. This is the ordinary meaning of the term "royalty", as it is used throughout copyright law, and there is absolutely no evidence that it means anything else in the context of the AHRA.

    I submit that by accepting these statutory royalty payments from the general public, the recording industry, and every major record label claimed this money, has incurred an obligation to permit the public to exercise the rights that they have paid for, to the tune of millions of dollars per year.

    This is NOT an issue of fair use. This is an issue of consumers receiving the rights that they have paid for.

    Kudos for Rep. Boucher. We need more representatives of his caliber with his level of committment to the rights of the people.

    1. Re:FINALLY someone is paying attention to this by sheldon · · Score: 4, Informative

      "paid every time a blank CDR is purchased! "

      This is not at all accurate. The fee is only charged on CDR media specifically intended for audio recording. It is not charged on CDR media intended for computer based recording even though it is often used for music.

      Also, similar fees are collected on analog cassette tapes, and have been for years. I'm not certain if VHS tapes have such a tax, but I would not doubt it.

  11. Understands 'Fair-use' by dackroyd · · Score: 5, Informative

    Wow, not only did he think arresting Dmitri Sklyarov was a bad idea:

    This unfortunate legal action highlights the overly broad terms of the criminal provisions of the Digital Millennium Copyright Act ("DMCA"). It clearly demonstrates the intrusion of these provisions on the ability of American citizens to exercise their legally protected fair use rights,
    (http://www.house.gov/boucher/docs/sklyarov.htm)

    but he also gets that the entertainment industry wants money off the public everytime you listen to music or watch a movie.

    As NTIA recognized in its letter, one of the foremost concerns reflected in the Congressional report upon passage of the DMCA was that changes in the law could chill the exercise of consumers' traditional "fair use" rights, and move us all toward a "pay-per-use" society.
    Unfortunately, the announced exceptions to the rule are so narrow as to be practically meaningless. Fair use is not protected.
    ...Congress in its next session should act to prevent the creation of a "pay per use" society, in which what is available today on the library shelf for free is available in the future only upon payment of a fee for each use.

    (http://www.house.gov/boucher/docs/payperuse.htm )

    Wow! That'll teach the entertainment industry to only give him $18,500 when the telephone industry gave him $49,000 (http://www.opensecrets.org/politicians/detail.asp ?CID=N00002171&cycle=2000)

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  12. Right On. by WiredPaul · · Score: 5, Informative

    I agree completly.

    I can't remember the number of times I've sat here and listened to all the armchair QBs on slashdot say "If I had the chance I'd make a diffrence.". Well, guess what! This is your chance. Get up, find a stamp and do your part. It's easy, even a post card will work. Even if doubt your letter will effect anything, don't worry it's cheap, easy and it will definitly benifit a postal system that could use some help anyway.

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  13. Re:No, I guess by Genghis+Troll · · Score: 0, Informative

    You're wrong. The "audio-only" CDRs are more expensive only because they are subject to the RIAA's royalty. "Normal" cdrs, the kind that work only in computer cd recorders, are not subject to this tax. It makes no sense, because people with stand-alone cd recorders are probably more likely to be using them for legitimate purposes (home and small studios), but that's how it is. The "audio-only" cdrs differ from the data/audio/whatever ones only in that they have a certain bit set in the atip (which is what makes standalone cd recorders accept them).

  14. Re:The part that bugs me by sheldon · · Score: 3, Informative
    What part of "at least in Canada, and I think the States" didn't you understand?

    Yes, in Canada all CD media is surtaxed, but the same is not true in the US.

  15. Re:It's not just boy bands anymore by uebernewby · · Score: 3, Informative

    One played it, the other one didn't. Bad enough for me. Ordinary cd's play in *both* drives (interestingly enough, the newer drive, a burner I sometimes use to play damaged cd's, failed to see there was an audio cd present at all, while the older drive played the disk just fine except for a few extra glitches which weren't supposed to be there.)

    This happened in Windows ME (work, sorry) *and* Linux.

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  16. Credit where credit's due by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    In Canada, the "blank media" levy is bigger and applied to more media, including data CD-R discs, so it's even more upsetting. Activists there have already noted that it's incompatible with the arguments for anti-fair-dealing measures. The record companies have to give up one or the other (at least!). The earliest mention of this issue that I've seen is in the September 14, 2001 submission of Eric R. Smith, PhD to the Canadian government's copyright reform comment process, and flagged in a reply comment of Matthew Skala.

    But of course, it wasn't news for Slashdot until a U.S. Congressman thought to mention it.

  17. Re:In Canada... by mistered · · Score: 2, Informative
    And they can be reached by email at inquiries@cpcc.ca or by phone at (416) 486-6832. Their mailing address is:
    CPCC
    150 Eglinton Avenue East, Suite 403
    Toronto, ON
    M4P 1E8
    Feel free to ask them why you have to pay $0.21 to burn a free OS to CD or back up some files from your hard disk.
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  18. List of "corrupt" (copy-protected) CDs.. by fanatic · · Score: 4, Informative

    The article says 'sightings are rare' - don't think so, see here.

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  19. Re:Boucher Gets It (tm) by MulluskO · · Score: 4, Informative

    Boucher's Email

    WASHINGTON, D.C. OFFICE

    2187 Rayburn House Office Building
    Washington, D.C. 20515
    202-225-3861

    DISTRICT OFFICES

    188 East Main Street
    Abingdon, Virginia 24210
    540-628-1145

    112 North Washington Avenue
    Pulaski, Virginia 24301
    540-980-4310

    1 Cloverleaf Square, Suite C-1
    Big Stone Gap, Virginia 24219
    540-523-5450

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  20. Paying studios doesn't mean selling out to labels by billstewart · · Score: 3, Informative
    Your magic phrase was "needs some form of label support to pay the atrocious bills of a studio that knows what it's doing." If you know what you're doing, you can build a computer-based studio for not too much money, and people who want to build studios to help other people record music can now do it for not too much money. (Here in San Francisco, the floor space for the studio now costs much more than the electronics :-) The expensive part is the "knows what they're doing." That's also getting cheaper, at least for the technical side - some of the other studio services, like providing backup musicians, may cost more.

    What the label is providing is knowledge about how to sell music, and how to make music that sells, which is only partially related to how to make music that sounds good. But what they're really providing in return for your soul, first-born child, and ownership of your music is that they're running the business and hiring you to play music for them, like a bar owner hiring you to play for the evening, unlike the computer venture capitalist deal where the VC lends you money, owns much of the stock, but you run the business as well as making the product. Why can't you just buy studio time yourself? Theoretically you can, and if you can market your music successfully, cool. Studios are a lot less expensive than they used to be, but advertising is more expensive, but delivering product is less expensive. It's getting to be time to kick the chair out from under the traditional industry structure.

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  21. Re:The cost of copying has dropped by klund · · Score: 3, Informative
    minidisc was the eventual format of choice, if any

    Which is sad, really, because there's an unwritten agreement that DAT and MiniDisc recorders will treat analog inputs as if they contained copyrighted materials which the user has no rights in.

    In his What's Wrong With Copy Protection, John Gilmore says

    "My recording of my brother's wedding is uncopyable, because my MiniDisc decks act as if I and my brother don't own the copyright on it."

    So much for fair use.
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  22. Rick Boucher on Fair Use by thumbtack · · Score: 3, Informative

    Rep. Boucher who was rerferred to by John Perry Barlow as "The only person in Congress who gets it." (at the O'Reilly Conference)has some ideas on Fair Use that are well worth reading. As a VA resident who has met and discussed DMCA and fair use with Congressman Boucher, he needs your support in helping to correct many of the problems with the DMCA as it exists, by letting YOUR Congressperson know that you, as a constituent, want them to support the changes. They need your vote, without being elected, they don't get the lobby dollars that the copyright industry scatters around DC like confetti on New Years Eve. Point out to them they work for you not Disney, not Vivendi, etc., etc, not Hilary Rosen or Jack Valenti. They will get the point.

  23. Re:The record companies worst nightmare by nathanm · · Score: 3, Informative
    Though I guess the performance of that is copyrighted...
    somebody tell me!
    Yes, unless the recording was made before ~1922, it is copyrighted.

    For music, there are 2 kinds of copyrights:

    PA - Performing Arts

    SR - Sound Recording

    Since most classical music was written before ~1922, there is no PA copyright for it in general; hoever, a specific arrangement or orchestration can be copyrighted. Most sheet music of classical music is coprighted for this reason, unless it's aiming to be as close to the original score as possible (then it would be public domain).

    Every recording of classical music (or any music) is SR copyrighted. Since not many recordings exist from before ~1922, you can safely assume the recording is copyrighted.

  24. Re:Boucher Gets It (tm) by Brian+See · · Score: 4, Informative

    Boucher has nothing to do with UCITA's acceptance in Virginia.

    Congressman Boucher is a Member of the United States Congress -- the federal legislative body.

    UCITA was adopted in the state of Virginia by the Virginia General Assembly, Virginia's legislative body.

    As a U.S. Representative, Boucher never voted for or against UCITA.