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wyldchild37 writes: "Business 2.0 has an article on an interesting new technology - TV That Works Like the Web. A new startup wants to make all television content archived, indexed, and searchable."
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now I can get an error 404 on my TV.
Just what I wanted.
Have you read the moderator guidelines? Well, have you, PUNK? (and I want a Karma: Gnarly option)
Didn't we hear about interactive TV before? Isn't that garbage over? Granted, TiVo is fairly popular, and it deserves it, but everyone I know wants to sit in front of their TV and be a vegetable. That's what it's good at, and that's what people use it for. This one'll sink because people would rather be lazy.
"I may not have morals, but I have standards."
Since the advent of the Web, I find myself wishing more and more physical media was indexed and searchable.
Ever read "Fellowship of the Ring" and wish you could search the book you're holding? Or watched a bunch of shows end wish you could grep for something you remembered hearing?
As the TV/Computer/Film merge and become more dense we need better ways to pick out pertinent information 'nuggets'. Otherwise, it is just information overload.
Great. Now we can type stuff into the TV, get 500,000 irrelevant results, get distracted by an I Love Lucy rerun, and wake up 4 hours later trying to remember what we were looking for. Thanks again technology.
For all intensive purposes, "whom" is no longer a word. That begs the question, "who cares"?
Ok, I've got well over three hundred channels, a friend of mine has over eight hundred, all of these are constantly putting out new content simultaneously. I cannot begin to imagine the resources that it would take to record this all and then storing it, say digitally, would be a storing all the data that _three_ atom smashers pump out (a shitload of information, and an exageration on my part). There's also the issue of intellectual property, they're gonna have to get more licenses than I want to even begin counting. This seems like an incredibly naieve (sp?) dream. PS first _real_ post. I had to say it I'm sorry.
"A witty saying proves nothing." - Voltaire
A new startup wants to make all television content archived, indexed, and searchable.
Won't happen. This could be the cynical conspiracy theorist in me, but do you really think the *media* powers that be will allow even more technology that enables the bypassing of their lifeblood - commercials? Technology that gives consumers MORE control? Media giants have spent the last 2 dozen years bringing the control of what and when you watch to a fine art. Not to mention all the possible copyright and trademark debacles waiting to happen with all lawyers freed up from the death of napster, just waiting for someone to start to bring episode trading to the public's attention.
My Feature Request for TV
This is two-fold. First off, I want Satelite or digital cable that changes channels as fast as conventional cable (meaning *instantly*).
Second part: I want a device that eliminates the stupid and annoying station logos. Contrary to popular belief, many people actually know what damn channel they are watching. Take the TNG episodes running on TNN....how many people need to be reminded that they are watching Star Trek, WHILE they are WATCHING it?
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I wonder who gets first dibs on trying to slap on a copyright infringement suit of some sort on this idea? I know it isn't really the same as anything, but I'm sure that some company can claim a copyright on it somehow.
I also wonder how long it takes before someone figures out how to set up a computer based version of the TV so you can stream things to your comp. That might be a good project to start on.
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If it were implemented, how useful would the tools provided be? This raises the same questions as a Google or an IMDB:
1) Will the database be open to _all_ content providers, or just big-media?
2) Will search results be fairly reported, or will they be skewed by paid placement?
I dug around Dremedia.com looking for answers, but couldn't find anything. Has anyone read anything relevant to this?
-Tom
Serachable TV would be great!
IBM used to have a technology that would allow you to search graphics, call the Ultimedia extentions to DB2. This would allow you to look for, say a red ball beside a tree...and it would return all the images that have a red ball beside a tree...phenomenal tech, but I don't think it was much used. Maybe ths is an extension to that tech, but idexes all the keyframes of show, then putting it into a huge database...
I would be nice to be able to say "find all Star Trek episodes that show pictures of older ships named enterprise"...
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Farrell
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Dremedia isn't the only one working on this. despite the Business 2.0 article's nearly sole focus on that particular company. A few others in the field include, and of course is not limited to, MediaSite (which looks to have recently been acquired by the audio and video editing software company Sonic Foundry), Virage, Pictron and Vodium. Its worth checking out each of the sites respective products page to see how they each are approaching this this new field.
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News broadcasts are keyword-indexed. Some indexing is based on closed-caption data. Other stuff is just listed by title and date.
Anyone can view the video, but you have to go to Chicago. It's fun; I've been there.
This stuff is being reported as a very novel stuff. But there has significant research being done in academia.
Stony Brook (SUNY) ECSL has developed a Videoserver prototype. The difference between this technology and that of ECSL's is that, ECSL videoserver uses closed captions available in the news clips. This way the burden of speech recongnition is taken off the archiving and indexing servers.
You can read all about it at this page
This was developed in 1999. This is a well documented project and publicly available. During its initial days it was made available at several download sites. This is still available (documentation + sources) from ecsl website. The only problem is that, this was developed on redhat 5.2 version and used many Beta Stage libraries of gtk(--) etc. Which are now obsolete. It will take a little bit of effort to get it working on latest platforms.
-- Srikant
I don't see this being a big hit with home users: the whole point about TV is to be able to lean back and enjoy the show without fiddling around. Finding and arranging video clips is a lot of effort. People who want to jump around and interact are better served with a combination of text, images, and links to video clips, like what you find on today's news sites.
Don't bother.
I'll just fast forward you to the last 2 sentences.
Now we simply need all the other pieces of the interactive TV puzzle to fall into place. Don't hold your breath.
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It's a bit disconcerting to watch one episode of a program where the two main characters are sleeping together, and then watch another the next week where they are complete strangers that don't meet until the end of the episode.