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Orbiting Lasers for Hydrogen Power

DerekLyons writes: "Yahoo is carrying a story about a Japanese scientist who plans to use giant orbiting lasers to extract H2 from seawater. The interesting part of the scheme is that design uses solar pumped lasers, which avoid the loss of efficiency (and increased launch weight) from powering the laser with electricity from solar cells. Is the way to finally break the main dilemma of the hydrogen economy? (That it takes more energy to make the hydrogen than you gain in using it.)"

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  1. Secret Plan by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    This is just there secret weapon to take over the world

  2. main dilemma? by s20451 · · Score: 3, Offtopic

    Is the way to finally break the main dilemma of the hydrogen economy? (That it takes more energy to make the hydrogen than you gain in using it.)

    No. In order to do that, you would have to repeal the laws of thermodynamics.

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  3. The slashdot drinking game by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic
    The slashdot drinking game.

    Requires:

    Several friends.
    An entire day to waste drunk.
    Numerous servings of the alcoholic beverage of your choice.


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    Rules:


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    6b. Drink Two shots if it gets modded to +5 interesting or
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    Have fun!

  4. Requisite Dr. Evil reference by Denito · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    "Back in the 60's, I developed a weather changing machine which was in essence a sophisticated heat beam which we called a 'laser.' Using these 'lasers' we'd punch a hole in the protective layer around the world which we called the 'ozone' layer. Slowly but surely ultraviolet rays would pour in, increasing the risk for skin cancer, that is...unless the world pays us a hefty ransom?"

  5. fp? by rxs · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    fP? PLEEEEEEEEEASE...

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  6. AKIRA!!! by CrazyJoel · · Score: 1, Offtopic

    That crazy Tetsuo kid will probably take control of the orbital laser and start shooting up NeoTokyo.

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  7. FIRST! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    bwahahahahahhah

    suck my laser fools!

  8. fp by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    first post

  9. Early morning by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    It is quite early in the morning for a post. A post that is first.

  10. Dave Thomas is dying by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Netcraft now confirms: Dave Thomas is dying.

    Yet another crippling bombshell hit the beleaguered Dave Thomas community when recently IDC confirmed that Dave Thomas accounts for less than a fraction of 1 percent of all servers. Coming on the heels of the latest Netcraft survey which plainly states that Dave Thomas has lost more market share, this news serves to reinforce what we've known all along. Dave Thomas is collapsing in complete disarray, as further exemplified by failing dead last in the recent Sys Admin comprehensive networking test.

    You don't need to be a Kreskin to predict Dave Thomas's future. The hand writing is on the wall: Dave Thomas faces a bleak future. In fact there won't be any future at all for Dave Thomas because Dave Thomas is dying. Things are looking very bad for Dave Thomas. As many of us are already aware, Dave Thomas continues to lose market share. Red ink flows like a river of blood. Burger King is the most endangered of them all, having lost 93% of its core developers.

    Let's keep to the facts and look at the numbers.

    McDonalds leader Theo states that there are 7000 users of McDonalds. How many users of Hardees are there? Let's see. The number of McDonalds versus Hardees posts on Usenet is roughly in ratio of 5 to 1. Therefore there are about 7000/5 = 1400 Hardees users. Subway posts on Usenet are about half of the volume of Hardees posts. Therefore there are about 700 users of Subway. A recent article put Burger King at about 80 percent of the Dave Thomas market. Therefore there are (7000+1400+700)*4 = 36400 Burger King users. This is consistent with the number of Burger King Usenet posts.

    Due to the troubles of Burgers, Inc, abysmal sales and so on, Burger King went out of business and was taken over by Burger King, Inc who sell another troubled OS. Now Burger King, Inc is also dead, its corpse turned over to yet another charnel house. All major surveys show that Dave Thomas has steadily declined in market share. Dave Thomas is very sick and its long term survival prospects are very dim. If Dave Thomas is to survive at all it will be among OS hobbyist dabblers. Dave Thomas continues to decay. Nothing short of a miracle could save it at this point in time. For all practical purposes, Dave Thomas is dead.

    Fact: Dave Thomas is dead

  11. Stephen King, author, dead at 55 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic


    I just heard some sad news on talk radio - Horror/Sci Fi writer Stephen King was found dead in his Maine home this morning. There weren't any more details. I'm sure everyone in the Slashdot community will miss him - even if you didn't enjoy his work, there's no denying his contributions to popular culture. Truly an American icon.

  12. Sometimes enivronementally bad, historical success by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    HISTORY REPEATS ITSELF

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  13. What does this signify? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    What does this signify?

    http://www.niggers.org

  14. Someone's gotta say it.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    ME TOO!

  15. Re:Don't trust them by MrFredBloggs · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    On a slightly off-topic tip, i think we can safely say that the WTC event makes it pretty unlikely that we`ll be seeing flying cars, no matter what they say in the movies.

  16. Science Fiction by DeadBugs · · Score: 1, Offtopic

    To quote the article "Hydrogen can be produced on Earth by water electrolysis. This process may be very efficient (in excess of 80%) I think it would be safer and more realistic to produce hydrogen on earth with a large array of solar cells. Many of the countries in the Middle East that currently rely on oil also have plenty of sunlight and border the ocean. Now would be the time to convert to a hydrogen economy before the oil runs out.

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  17. Interesting idea by bryan1945 · · Score: 2, Offtopic

    I first read about something like this is a scifi series by Michael F. Flynn- Rogue Star, Firestar. In those books they used satellites to pump microwaves down to earth to provide electricity.

    But you come up with the same type of questions: What thermal effects will it have on the atmosphere? Can it be used as a weapon? What effect will it have on local weather (how cool would it be to have a _stable_, low-scale tornado centered on the warmed air around the laser!)?

    Solar energy is nearly a holy grail for energy- it's always there and there is a bunch of it. The only problem is collecting it efficiently and delivering it (ok, 2 probs). Personally, I think it would be better to beam down the power and then crack the water, rather than have a huge ass laser bombarding the ocean. How many seagulls are you going to cook? Of course, you could set up "Fried Seagull Emporium" as a lunch stand for the workers!

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  18. Re:I will call it... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    That's it, you're dead.

  19. Re:ARE YOU GAY? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    That flight was either flying to or from San Francisco....

  20. Great Scott! by Archie+Steel · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    Of course, you realize than can only mean one thing: FNORD

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  21. Imagine.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    a Beowulf of those!!

  22. Re:IMPORTANT - The Linux Gay Conspiracy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    I'm gay and I don't use Linux. Your hypothesis is weak. You really should come up with a better troll... Homosexuality has lost much of its mainstream shock value, and rightfully so - even major cable pay networks have gay programming.

  23. Re:Page Lengthening Day!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    and there are some true trolls amongst the gems. Crapflooding is for trolls who have a better grasp on their minuscule genitals than the English language. Furthermore, if their vocabulary rivaled their exaggerated aforementioned genitalia sizes, reading troll posts would be a refreshing, enlightening and enjoyable experience.

    Oh yea, and "Lasers" are cool. 'specially on the moon and shit.

  24. Forget H, what about Orbital Mind Control Lasers? by meehawl · · Score: 0, Offtopic


    I want these. I already have the Gnomes of Zurich and the Shriners. Soon my hierachy will be complete, oh yes.

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