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Embedded Linux On a High Speed Camera
destructor writes: "Linuxdevices has an interesting article on a High Speed Gated Intensified Camera that
"combines a fast gated micro-channel plate (MCP) image intensifier, a CMOS image sensor, and an embedded computer based on an Axis Communications ETRAX RISC processor running Embedded Linux." The camera (Elphel Model 303) itself is network operable and can be used for capturing images of explosions, lightning bolts, etc. Link found via. megarad.com."
Wouldnt mind using this to make my own home-brewed Matrix movies..
:-)
Kid jumping off roof with blankie thinking he's going to be ok.. you get to get every angle of that by running around him with the camera
Would be nice to be able to take a lot of shots ( and I mean helluva lot of shots ) of meteor showers then you'd have a pretty good chance of grabbing a good shot..
can it catch a glimse of a speeding CowboyNeal running around after he gets the most votes on the "Which brand of lightbulb do you prefer?" Slashdot Poll?
The camera [...] can be used for capturing images of explosions, lightning bolts, etc.
Wouldn't it be better to make a camera that can be used for ordinary pictures?
Give a man a fish and he eats for one day. Teach him how to fish, and though he'll eat for a lifetime, he'll call you a miser for not giving him your fish.
Terrorists can't threaten a country's freedom and democracy. Only lawmakers and voters can do that.
At first sight, I thought running Linux on a camera would be useless, but it actually DOES have some great uses; mainly high quality, low budget films, in which a low budget movie can produce effects like those in The Matrix, for a fraction of the cost. IMO, small, abstract markets like this might be more important to the future of Linux than things like Linux on PDAs.
Just for the educational point:
The neat thing is that the camera is operating as a webserver:I have always disliked trying to find out why my company's systems were not working our customers' sites -- had my hardware really failed, or had they just updated some (seemingly unrelated) software on their computers which were running a popular OS? - - - This last issue unambiguously told me the camera should run a web server. Internet technologies are the best de-facto "common denominator" for the different computers and operating systems.
The world's fastest webcam! amazing! ;-)
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Catch the speed at which this site is going to be slashdotted?
What precise effect will this play on the online pr0n industry?
That depends on how many people are turned on by explosions and lightning bolts.
Imagine all the uses if we had a modular pattern recognition framework that can analyze pictures taken with this thing. One would only need to write a module that recognizes a specific thing to be able to have that information usable in any application.
For example, if I had the ability to extract all facial images captured by the camera I could feed them to something like this.
Of course there are big issues about privacy and whatnot with that kind of application, but I'm not going to touch that here. There are plenty of other, non-privacy intruding uses for an automated image analyzation system.
No.. its just showing how Linux is spreading into the various devices.. You're never going to catch microsoft windows in any cameras yet Linux got its way into a camera.. hence its cool factor
High speed photography is a usefull tool for studying physical phenomena. If using a linux system lowers the cost and increases the availability of a usefull tool, that is a good thing. There are already lots of digital cameras which can take "ordinary" photographs, and there is increasing linux support for those also ( gphoto and gimp for example ). I think that any time an open source tool makes a genuine contribution to society, science or the advancement of ducks, it is a good thing. One concern however is that high speed cameras were initially developed in support of the development of nuclear weapons. Will this tool enhance the proliferation of such devices ?
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That's because it's the biggest pain in the ass to get working. And really, no one cares about it.
It's like a plane crash. You see it on the news because it happens so rarely. But car crashes and murders don't even make second page news because they happen every day. Unless you live in Toronto where the crime rate is three times more than than there are days in the year, in which case you need to find a new fucking place to live.
What the hell am I talking about?
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So can I server PHP/MySQL webpages with Apache on this camera?
...what's next?
I think back to the film Real Genius probably the high point of Val Kilmer's acting career. In the film, the character of Hollyfield, a madman who lives in a closet, is described as "a gifted scientist, until he found out the government was using one of his inventions to kill people " (emphasis mine).
With that thought, the chilling possibility arises: if Linux can be used for good, like in cameras, how long before it is used for evil? How will Slashdot report on the first embedded-linux-using guided atomic bomb?This is something the needs to be seriously considered now. The Linux community cannot afford to wait until embedded Linux is used in torture devices by some fascist regime before confronting the possibilities of using Linux for evil.
A "Linux Bill of Rights" should be drawn up, roundly condemning the use of Linux for destructive, sexist, racist, or environmentally degrading practices. So much progress has been made through Linux. This great OS, the product of strong, free geeks, must not be allowed to become a tool for evil. The voices of the Linux community must be heard: rememer the lesson of Real Genius!
Before you know it you'll find out that your camera has been infected with a virus that has posted all your nude and private pictures all over the Internet.
Give a man a fish and he eats for one day. Teach him how to fish, and though he'll eat for a lifetime, he'll call you a miser for not giving him your fish.
Terrorists can't threaten a country's freedom and democracy. Only lawmakers and voters can do that.
I can't say I know about this product intimately, but my experience is that these products start at about USD 15000 and go up to about USD 50000. With these kind of prices, nobody cares about an operating system which costs USD 1000.
As a side point, The camera seems to have no external trigger, and be only network triggerable. If you're taking 10ns frames, this is not going to be useful.
On the other hand, the integration of the frame grabber gets around the problem of many cameras (especially pulnix) in that the camera needs a lot of fiddling before it works with a third party framegrabber.
Me too, Axis definately has it's act together. I see security applications with these.
:O
:-)
Only problem w/ the Axis is I've seen it lock up at times going through my Apache rewriter (maybe needs a config tweak) or via my SMC NAT when accessed from outside the LAN. Maybe a slow connection on the other end, but I don't think that's it. I should really do a firmware upgrade on it
Other than that, it works fine - I wish them luck too and hope to see more stuff on the market with embedded Linux. There's some jockying going on - i.e. J2ME, Tini, etc. but there's plenty of space in this area. You should be able to flash a new release of Linux into your HDTV, security or phone system to get more functionality out of it, and you should be able to telnet into it to fix things
...combines a fast gated micro-channel plate (MCP)...
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What happens when the home directory and NIS server goes down and I'm doing 85mph on the highway? ;)
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... I can see those ad's coming up already ... "hidden meteor shower cam!"... double as good, double snappy!
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Bastard. You could have at least given a link.
That said, yeah, I'd like to make her eyeglasses sticky.
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Neat. In addition to the obvious high-speed photography applications, a system like this coupled with a similarly short duration flash system could make a vision system capable of seeing through some kinds of particle clouds. Might be more applicable underwater, where the particles are bigger.
Basically, the problem in low-visibility situations like that is that the particles near you scatter so much of your light back at you that you can't see the stuff further away. If you send out a 10 ns pulse of light and don't open the shutter until it has had time to go out some distance (say 100 ns for 100 feet, divided by whatever the refractive index of water is), then you only see the light that has bounced off whatever is 100 feet away (well, mod multiple reflections from silt particles).
Won't work in really thick clouds, of course, but it has possibilities. (Consider, for example, driving in a snowstorm at night -- you don't need or want the snow immediately in front of the headlights lit up.)
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What was the IP of the door web cam again? ticka,ticka,ticka... Oh there is is. Hmm.. Ok, I know him. Oh CRAP.. now what was the *&^&#$^$ IP address of the door lock?
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There are actually quite a few network cameras available if you don't need a high-speed camera. Most have a built-in webserver, and several run a version of embedded linux. My personal favorite (and Ed's) is the Panasonic KX-HCM10 which can be had for as low as $329.99. The Axis and Samsung cameras are pretty cool too, if you can afford them.
Other cameras include the StarDot NetCam, which is also available from ThinkGeek (along with the Axis 2100 and 2120 cameras) and the IQeye cameras.
The real advantage to these is that you can simply plug them into your network and watch [whatever] through your web browser. My interest stems from my upcoming need to be able to work and keep an eye on a baby sleeping at the same time. There are, of course, baby monitors that come with little TV's or that plug into your television, and the annoying X10 cameras, but they all require a separate monitor and need extra gear to be viewed in more than one location. With a network camera, not only can we watch the kid from any computer in the house, but relatives can watch too, over the internet. And all I need to do to set it up is plug it in and set the IP address.
Stupid people will be persecuted to the fullest extent allowed by law.
...Why else do you think the following came into existance:
- boradband connection (the clue is the name)
- 3ccd cameras with "anti-shake" image stablization
...and now we can add high-speed digital cameras to that list... perfect for catching those hard to get jiz, facial and snowballing shots.