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Debian 2.2r5 Released

Posted by michael on from the solid-as-a-rock dept.

Debian potato has been updated to 2.2r5. See the press release for info on what has changed - mostly bugfixes, of course, since this is the stable distribution.

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  1. Woody by MoceanWorker · · Score: 3, Interesting

    why not just upgrade to Woody? even though it's classified unstable.. i've been running it and having no problems at all with it... there was a certain way to upgrade from 2.2 to 3 (i unfortunately forgot), but if you sign on to irc.openprojects.net, join #debian and message Apt.. it should give you a few simple steps on how to upgrade to Woody...

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  2. ssh v1? 1:1.2.3-9.4? by Odinson · · Score: 2, Interesting
    Will stable debian use ssh version 2 yet?

    Or did they rig their package so protocol verion 1 doesn't allow your box to hacked?

    Or are they just ignoring the huge exploit problems with the ssh1 protocol?

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    1. Re:ssh v1? 1:1.2.3-9.4? by Odinson · · Score: 3, Interesting
      First, thank you both.

      I was planning on doing exactly that.

      Do Debian's rules explicitly disallow a major version upgrade? Even for security reasons? I believe that boxes are already being exploited. Even if there isn't example code, I'm sure there will be soon. Why wait?

      It seems to me that widespread use and critical funtion of this package might warrant a major version upgrade on a stable release.

      Please understand that I have infinate gratitude toward the Debian people, but I also have broadband Debian stable boxes.

      and a side note... Someone actually modded the top parent down. WTF? Even if I was wrong those are completely on topic questions. Someone metamod that guy.

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  3. Re:stable vs. unstable by barawn · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Because in a cron job, you can shove "apt-get upgrade" (and some switch to get rid of the "Y/N") and all of the basic security stuff is done, good, kay, everything's great.

    You can't do that in a cron job for "unstable".

    Regarding the hand-securing thing, well, for the actual PURPOSE of the box, I agree with you - the mail should probably be configured by hand, etc., but not necessarily for EVERYTHING - especially for security holes, rather than stupid security issues. What if there's a security hole in wu-ftpd? (God, that never happens) In that case, "stable" is best, because "apt-get upgrade" will just fix that. Unstable you'd actually have to GO to each box, and make sure dependencies weren't screwed with.

  4. Debian is odd by bytor4232 · · Score: 2, Interesting
    This is the EXACT reason I stopped using Debian. They need to get a clue. Debian is a great distro, don't get me wrong, but they need to stop screwing around with Potato and get Woody released. Potato is NOT a new relese, instead its a rerelease of an old codebase that is getting tired. Potato is getting on several years old, Debian needs to let it go.

    Here is an example. I am not a KDE advocate or anything (Window Maker for me) but I noticed that all versions of KDE is still listed as "testing" or "unstable" while GNOME 1.0.55 is listed in the "Stable" package section? I'm sorry, but KDE 2.2.x is ALOT more stable that "October" GNOME which was released in 1999! Debian needs to get with it. Stability is one thing, but this is bordering on the rediculous. October GNOME was not all that stable, and KDE 2.2.2 is one of the most stable desktops out there.

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  5. Re:does it still have that installer? by barawn · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Debian will use alien to convert RPMs into .debs for the LSB requirement.

    There's an old phrase regarding Debian - and that's that the installer is so bad because you only ever need to install once.

    That being said, the Potato installer is not maintained anymore - there's a brand new installer for Woody (Debian 3.0).

  6. Where is Woody? by RelliK · · Score: 3, Interesting

    The big question is why Woody still has not been released? I thought going to unstable/testing/stable model was supposed to speed up release cycles. Apparently not.

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  7. The problem with Debian... by aussersterne · · Score: 3, Interesting

    [Okay, I'm prepared to lose four karma points over this, offtopic, flamebait, troll, overrated, all the way to -1, just because there are so many damn Debian cheerleaders here and moderation is so damn broken]

    The problem with Debian is that it's too stable. What I mean by that is that though Debian does feel very stable, the current release also feels about 5 years behind other Linux operating systems in many ways, while not being all that much more stable than Red Hat, Caldera, or Slackware.

    I run Debian on a couple of PowerPC-based Web servers so it's not like I've never used it. I'd run Red Hat or Slackware on them if I could, though.

    And dselect has to go. Is there a new installer/package selector coming in the next major release, or will Debian still be the ugliest and clumsiest Linux to install on the face of the earth? Way back at Slackware 2.x, its installer was pretty, powerful, automatable, and easy to use.

    Red Hat installs a lot of crap, but it's got a decent record of keeping up on updates in a reasonable amount of time (i.e. no lurking glibc bug) and most of the software around the net will run on it.

    Aside from the multi-platform abilities of Debian, I really see no reason to use it, especially as .deb packaging moves farther toward the standardization fringes...

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