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CompactFlash / IDE Interface for Apple II

jutpm writes: "This page describes a project to create an IDE / CompactFlash Interface card for 8 bit Apple II series of computers. The card is ProDOS 8 compatible and supports up to 64 Meg (two ProDOS 32Meg drives). I am very impressed with the work this guys work. Definitely a case of old technology meeting new."

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  1. Finally! by Drakula · · Score: 5, Funny

    The last piece I need for my Apple ][e mp3 jukebox!

    j/k

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    "It's comin' back around again..." -RATM
  2. The real question on everyones' minds is.. by sid_vicious · · Score: 5, Funny

    Can you punch a hole in the corner of the flash card and flip it over?

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    If it ain't broke, it doesn't have enough features yet.
  3. Saw this on www.woz.org by TotallyUseless · · Score: 5, Interesting

    The guy that did this had written into the letters section and sent a link to Woz. Woz seemed impressed, understandably so. The funny thing is that this is considered mass storage for the ][e. For those that still put their old apples through the motions, this could save them a lot of disk swapping, as they could more than likely fit their entire software and data library onto a single 64meg card. neat!

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    Time for some tasty Shiner Bock!
  4. Don't forget the 8GB of the IDE64 :) by mbpark · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It's about time Apples caught up to the Commodore 64 ;).

    IDE64 has given them that ability for a while, since all you need is a CF to IDE adapter, and you can have up to two 8 GB harddrives on a c64, or a few CF cards, or a couple of IBM Microdrives :).

    16GB on that machine is completely nuts. You could quite possibly store every c64 game ever made (which I estimate at over 30,000 .d64 images total) and still have room left over for the applications.

    Of course, you can go for the 8GB HD and a CD-ROM :). Some of those screenshots are pretty nuts. I can't imagine loading the Windows 95 CD-ROM using LOAD"$",8

    Meanwhile, Nate has nearly hacked together an MP3 player for the c64 based on the MAS chip. That, and a quickcam, and a few other things. Look at the C= projects page. That's some wicked stuff.

    Now that's a hacker's machine. Give them enough time and they even get a workalike UNIX with a GUI and IRC client, as well as a 20Mhz CPU, 16MB RAM, and many other cool things. From what I hear, XGA video and PCI are next.

    I always did like these hackers of older systems. I would enjoy seeing those optimization techniques applied to modern code and compilers, especially gcc :).

  5. Mirror by seanadams.com · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I've mirrored it at the URL below. Photos will be up as soon as they've finished downloading. :)

    http://www.slimdevices.com/CFforAppleII

    I dunno if my server's going to hold up any better, but it's worth a shot. :)

    Just in case, a couple snippets from the page:

    ast Update: Jan 17, 2002 - 11:40am CST

    Project Introduction:

    This page describes a project to create an IDE / CompactFlash Interface card for 8 bit Apple II series of computers. The
    card is ProDOS 8 compatible. I did this project over the span of several months. Although it took much longer than
    expected, it was a fun project. This project is very much a case of old technology (the
    Apple II computer) meets new (IDE / CompactFlash cards and Altera CPLDs).
    My reasoning for this project is described in detail in the last section, but suffice it to say, I
    wanted to be able to pull out my old Apple and use it from time to time to reminisce about the
    early days of personal computers. I wanted a reliable way to store my Apple II programs and
    data files for many years to come. Due to the Apple II's floppy drives long term reliability
    prospects and my general laziness, I decided a mass storage device is what I needed.

    If there was enough interest in this project I would love to make a small batch of boards to
    sell to those interested. But I would need at least 10 orders, and it may be hard to find 10 people interested in something
    like this. I can be reached at rich@dreher.net
    Currently I have only built a prototype, which means no extensive testing has been done
    yet.

    The Apple II was an excellent example of an open system, with unheard-of-today
    documentation like system schematics, firmware listings, and peripheral design tips. Indeed
    the only thing that was totally hidden was the source for the BASIC interpreter - "AppleSoft"
    written by giga-monopoly Microsoft. In the spirit of the Apple II this project is completely
    open.

    Project Definition:

    A CompactFlash/IDE Interface for 8 bit Apple II family of computers
    Support for up to 64 Meg, (two ProDOS 32Meg drives)
    On board EPROM for the ProDOS 8 driver code
    Allow booting ProDOS directly from the Interface card (for a floppy-less system)
    Current version of driver code requires a 65C02. (IIe Enhanced or later)

    Project Prototype Hardware:

    My first prototype used no discreet 74HCTxxx series parts and all logic was in the CPLD, but due to several unrelated
    problems with construction and the consumption of all PLD resources, I decided to build a second prototype with using
    74hct373 parts, this time paying more careful attention to power distribution. I still believe it would be easy to eliminate
    the discreet 74xxx series parts if you used a larger PLD, like the EPM70128S. Although it might not be very cost
    effective.

    Here is the schematic I developed AFTER completing my prototype. That means this schematic has not been tested. If
    you decide to build this project, you might want to check with me for any changes first. Also if you find any mistakes
    please let me know. Project Schematic: ORCAD Capture Format

    If you just want a quick look at the schematic click here to view a 640k jpeg of the schematic. Modem users: sorry about
    the size, but I wanted it to be clear and readable as possible.

    Prototype Parts List:

    1 - SanDisk CompactFlash 64Meg or 32Meg
    1 - CompactFlash to IDE conversion board - Adtron SDDA-03 available from EMJ Embedded
    1 - ISA bus prototype board (trimmed to fit into the apple bus) Jameco part #21531
    1 - 44pin PLCC socket. Jameco part #71618
    1 - 44pin PLCC wire-wrap socket. (http://smt-adapter.com/ - part #44PG-W or similar)
    1 - Altera EPM7064SLC44-10F
    1 - 27128 EPROM
    2 - 74HCT373 transparent latch
    2 - 74HCT245 bus transceiver
    7 - 22ohm 1/8w resistors
    5 - 0.1uf capacitors non-polarized (used for power supply bypass)
    3 - 1.0uf capacitors non-polarized (used for power supply bypass)
    10 - 30 pin wire wrap SIPP sockets. Jameco part #104053 (there were some leftover)
    misc wire wrap tools and wire